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pnwmom

(109,015 posts)
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 04:19 AM Dec 2017

Roy Moore files complaint to delay election certification

Source: Al.com

The Roy Moore campaign filed a complaint Wednesday to have the election certification delayed "until a full investigation of voter fraud is conducted," according to a statement from his campaign.

The complaint includes affidavits from three "national election integrity experts" who claim election fraud occurred and a statement from Moore saying he successfully completed a polygraph test confirming the representations of misconduct made against him during the campaign are "completely false."

Moore has not conceded the election more than two weeks after he was defeated by Democrat Doug Jones.

"This is not a Republican or Democrat issue as election integrity should matter to everyone," Moore said. "We call on Secretary of State Merrill to delay certification until there is a thorough investigation of what three independent election experts agree took place: election fraud sufficient to overturn the outcome of the election."


Read more: http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/roy_moore_files_complaint_to_d.html



The article contains a link to the legal complaint.

According to the complaint, the alleged election fraud consisted of voting by out-of-state voters; false ads against Moore that were supposed to be pulled; and a statistical improbability of 13 billion to 1 that in certain precincts in Jefferson County, about a third fewer voted for Moore than for the straight Republican ticket.
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Roy Moore files complaint to delay election certification (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2017 OP
Roy Moore pisses into the wind. longship Dec 2017 #1
The man has no dignity. madaboutharry Dec 2017 #2
Desperation. Scarsdale Dec 2017 #8
Things that are 13 billion to 1 ... simply do not HAPPEN ... ergo, your 'maths' are way fucked up mr_lebowski Dec 2017 #3
I think he means in the other direction. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #25
I'm presuming that what's described actually happened, as you are ... mr_lebowski Dec 2017 #36
47 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. NT mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #38
You don't know what you're talking about, man! mr_lebowski Dec 2017 #40
Roy finds himself in a hole and has brought in a tractor weydowner Dec 2017 #4
Republican are birds of a feather. notdarkyet Dec 2017 #15
Before the election, Pedo Roy declared that the result would be God's will Orrex Dec 2017 #5
He must be a distant cousin of Trump BigBearJohn Dec 2017 #6
See if we can get ancestrydna to donate a couple of viles mdbl Dec 2017 #11
What a manly-man tough guy Bromwell Dec 2017 #7
I think that perhaps 2naSalit Dec 2017 #14
which furthermore explains his sexual proclivities musette_sf Dec 2017 #30
Indeed..nt. 2naSalit Dec 2017 #33
The only election manipulation in Alabama is at the hands of the repubs Sancho Dec 2017 #9
Whiney republican pedophile LOSER Achilleaze Dec 2017 #10
He just wants to waste more taxpayer money mdbl Dec 2017 #12
Sore LOSER! 2naSalit Dec 2017 #13
Can't wait for Roy Moore to get flushed down the sewer drain of US history. mpcamb Dec 2017 #17
Whenever black Americans vote, the GOP cries voter fraud AllyCat Dec 2017 #16
Sad... 2naSalit Dec 2017 #18
Fortunately Moore is not the one certifying the election bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #19
AL SoS says, "No." marble falls Dec 2017 #20
This lawsuit will be ignored Gothmog Dec 2017 #21
Election fraud Turbineguy Dec 2017 #22
All about HIM. As it always has been. he doesnt care about anything but HIM. ASS. nt 7962 Dec 2017 #23
Repugs make up numbers: "13 billion to one" louis-t Dec 2017 #24
The 13 billion to one figure .... Orange Free State Dec 2017 #32
Roy Soore loser Dopers_Greed Dec 2017 #26
Adding a link. WaPo: Roy Moore asks Alabama court to block Doug Jones, call a new Senate election mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #27
Trump would have never conceded if he had lost the EC vote. Doodley Dec 2017 #28
Add link. AL.com: Roy Moore files election complaint; John Merrill says certification will proceed mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #29
Only in Alabama... Orange Free State Dec 2017 #31
with his so called polygraph test, this so called judge attempts to admit this as ... SWBTATTReg Dec 2017 #34
He's dragging it out as long as he can to milk his fans for money dalton99a Dec 2017 #35
That did not take long Gothmog Dec 2017 #37
I wonder if Trump told Roy he would rig the election for him TexasBushwhacker Dec 2017 #39
I'm wondering that, too. If he was counting on the election being rigged. nt pnwmom Dec 2017 #42
It makes perfect sense really TexasBushwhacker Dec 2017 #43
I heard mysterious reports of rumors of a caravan of hundreds of senior citizens Orange Free State Dec 2017 #44
Moore is an ass Gothmog Dec 2017 #41
Too late... Alabama certified Jones as the winner anyway... Rollo Dec 2017 #45

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. Roy Moore pisses into the wind.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 04:55 AM
Dec 2017

He shits in one hand and prays into the other. Which one fills up first?

Etc. What a loser!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Things that are 13 billion to 1 ... simply do not HAPPEN ... ergo, your 'maths' are way fucked up
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:59 AM
Dec 2017

Among other idiocies.

And if 'false ads' are 'supposed to be pulled', the entire GOP Election Machine needs 'pulling', starting at the top with Faux Ruse and Limpballs, and every so-called 'PAC' remotely associated with the Republican Party, cause basically ALL THEY DO IS F***ING LIE (or at minimum, distort) in pretty much every campaign ad any of them ever produce.

Oh, and I suppose your 'out of state voters' claim is based on the ONE GUY who casually stated that people came from 'all over' to 'canvas and vote'? You know, that guy, who's already been proven to be a LEGAL AL voter?

You expect us to believe that 20K+ people just kinda 'showed up', like in rented buses from out of state, with fake ID's, having falsely registered (a FEDERAL CRIME that carries like 5 year sentence), and NOBODY in the entire chain (which would involve many 1000's more people) has 'talked' about this huge crime/scheme? None of the bus drivers, bus company owners, none of the canvassers involved in locating the 20,000 people supposedly willing to commit a FEDERAL CRIME, and none of the 100's of people responsible for checking legal residency requirements for registration, AND none of the (at minimum) 20,000+ people who were APPROACHED about committing this crime, but said 'hell no I'm not going to jail!' ... AND no UNINVOLVED people ... those who happened to be at the polling places who'd have witnessed these busloads being dropped off ... has 'come forward'?

Give us a f'ing break, you f'ing LOSER.

GO HOME, and STFU.

And I'd LOVE to see the details on that polygraph, esp. 'what the questions were', what the actual readings were, and WHO analyzed the 'results'.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,675 posts)
25. I think he means in the other direction.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:15 AM
Dec 2017

"... a statistical improbability of 13 billion to 1 that in certain precincts in Jefferson County, about a third fewer voted for Moore than for the straight Republican ticket."

That is, if the election were held 13 billion times, that in only one of those times would it occur that "in certain precincts in Jefferson County, about a third fewer {would vote} for Moore than for the straight Republican ticket."

Full disclosure: for the first time in my life, I donated money to a politician. It was for Doug Jones. As his winning went from completely improbable to "you know, he just might pull this out," I doubled down. I am so glad I did.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
36. I'm presuming that what's described actually happened, as you are ...
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:45 PM
Dec 2017

If it did, then it's original 'odds' weren't really 13B to 1. There's something off about where the number 13B came from.

weydowner

(100 posts)
4. Roy finds himself in a hole and has brought in a tractor
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:01 AM
Dec 2017

Does anyone think Trump wouldn't have done exactly the same if the rightful winner had been proclaimed last November?
Moore - god knows how - is even worse than Donald - sheer nastiness and pettiness without any of the entertainment value.

At least millions of decent people will know the joy and happiness of seeing him ruining what little reputation he has left.

Orrex

(63,243 posts)
5. Before the election, Pedo Roy declared that the result would be God's will
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:09 AM
Dec 2017

Now, either he's working hard to subvert God's will, or he simply considers himself to be God.

I'm going with that second option.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
11. See if we can get ancestrydna to donate a couple of viles
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 08:17 AM
Dec 2017

then we could find out for sure. They may not be so distant. lol

Bromwell

(123 posts)
7. What a manly-man tough guy
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:23 AM
Dec 2017

Who prances around on stage in a what looks like a 50's era cowboy costume for children, weirdly riding a horse around....where it looks like he is about to slide off the horse.....and who pulls out a tiny widdle gun on stage to show his rubes how tough he is...pew pew pew.

BUT as soon as he gets his ASS kicked in the election does the tough guy take it like a man....no, he cries like a baby, threatens lawsuits etc.

As if the phony tough guy caricature was not already undisputed.....now he is going to throw a fit kicking and screaming? LOL...too rich.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
9. The only election manipulation in Alabama is at the hands of the repubs
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:54 AM
Dec 2017

gerrymandering, suppression, intimidation, and downright cheating. If the truth was known, lots of elections should have gone to Democratic candidates.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
12. He just wants to waste more taxpayer money
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 08:18 AM
Dec 2017

in the hopes he will be able to go the senate where we can all waste money on him.

bucolic_frolic

(43,376 posts)
19. Fortunately Moore is not the one certifying the election
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 09:54 AM
Dec 2017

We may see election results like this for awhile, the electorate lurches to extremes when disappointed (or actually manipulated by foreign psyops).

Turbineguy

(37,383 posts)
22. Election fraud
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 10:24 AM
Dec 2017

In Moorespeak, that's when people of color vote.

I'm guessing that his three experts had no problem with GW Bush getting into the WH.

louis-t

(23,309 posts)
24. Repugs make up numbers: "13 billion to one"
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:05 AM
Dec 2017

Why not 60 gazillion to one? We know how this goes. The "investigation" will continue until they discover that any "voter fraud" was perpetrated by Republicans. And "false ads"? You really want to got there, Roy?

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
32. The 13 billion to one figure ....
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 01:06 PM
Dec 2017

....probably came from the same “statistician” who counted the number of people at Dotard’s inauguration.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,675 posts)
27. Adding a link. WaPo: Roy Moore asks Alabama court to block Doug Jones, call a new Senate election
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:56 AM
Dec 2017
PowerPost

Roy Moore asks Alabama court to block Doug Jones, call a new Senate election

By David Weigel December 28 at 9:08 AM

Roy Moore, the Republican nominee who lost Alabama’s closely watched Senate race this month, has filed a last-minute legal complaint alleging “election fraud” and asking the state not to confirm the victory of Democrat Doug Jones. ... In the complaint filed in state court, Moore’s campaign argues that Alabama “will suffer irreparable harm if the election results are certified without preserving and investigating all the evidence of potential fraud.” It cites rumors of election fraud that have already been investigated and refuted by the Alabama secretary of state, argues that high Democratic turnout in key areas was statistically unlikely, and reports that Moore himself has taken a polygraph test — an attempt to disprove allegations that he made unwanted sexual advances on teenagers when he was in his 30s.

Moore’s lawyers filed the complaint at 10:33 p.m. Wednesday night and announced it to reporters less than two hours later. At 1 p.m. Thursday, Alabama’s election officials — all Republicans — are scheduled to certify the election. Early Thursday morning, they gave no indication that they would delay that process. In Washington, leaders of both parties expect Jones to take his oath of office when the Senate returns next month.
....

The Moore campaign’s main argument is that high Democratic turnout and low support for Moore in the state’s most populous, urban counties resulted in an “implausible, unexplained 35 percent drop in votes for Roy Moore relative to the vote share of Republican Party straight-line votes.” While Moore dramatically underperformed other Republican candidates in Alabama when he last ran for office, in 2012, the campaign cites four “experts” to argue that the state should “order a new special election to be held based upon the already known fraud which [Secretary of State John Merrill] had acknowledged and taken action against and the further fraud alleged in this complaint.”

The experts came to the case with baggage of their own. James Condit Jr., one of the election analysts who signed an affidavit on behalf of Moore’s campaign, has written and spoken about “Zionist” control of world politics, and alleged an Israeli role in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Richard Charnin, who provided the court with an argument that there was just enough possible fraud to swing the election, claimed to have “mathematically” proven a conspiracy behind the assassination of John F. Kennedy.



....
David Weigel is a national political correspondent covering Congress and grassroots political movements. He's the author of "The Show That Never Ends," a history of progressive rock music. Follow @daveweigel

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,675 posts)
29. Add link. AL.com: Roy Moore files election complaint; John Merrill says certification will proceed
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:42 PM
Dec 2017
Roy Moore files election complaint; John Merrill says certification will proceed

Updated 10:14 AM; Posted 12:56 AM

By Anna Beahm abeahm@al.com

The Roy Moore campaign filed a complaint Wednesday to have the election certification delayed "until a full investigation of voter fraud is conducted," according to a statement from his campaign.

But Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill told The Associated Press Wednesday evening that he has no intention of delaying the canvassing board meeting.

"It is not going to delay certification, and Doug Jones will be certified (Thursday) at 1 p.m., and he will be sworn in by Vice President Pence on the third of January," Merrill said.

@_AnnaBeahm

Here's Moore's affidavit claiming he passed a polygraph test. He also continues to claim he never had any sexual conduct with any of the women who accused him of sexual misconduct.


Orange Free State

(611 posts)
31. Only in Alabama...
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:49 PM
Dec 2017

...is it a reasonable thing to file a lawsuit based on the premise that a suspicious number of African-Americans voted. Well, maybe in Mississippi too.

SWBTATTReg

(22,176 posts)
34. with his so called polygraph test, this so called judge attempts to admit this as ...
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:22 PM
Dec 2017

evidence, as opposed to numerous actual eyewitness accounts. What a piece of crap floating in the sewer...

This so called polygraph test, administered by none other than Roy Moore flunkies, is really objective (sarcasm) and can be admitted in court (NOT!)...

"
and a statement from Moore saying he successfully completed a polygraph test confirming the representations of misconduct made against him during the campaign are "completely false

"

TexasBushwhacker

(20,226 posts)
39. I wonder if Trump told Roy he would rig the election for him
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:23 PM
Dec 2017

and they didn't rig it enough. Perhaps Moore actually lost by more than 1.5%.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,226 posts)
43. It makes perfect sense really
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 08:27 PM
Dec 2017

With some Republicans saying he should pull out and others saying that him being a sexual predator was fine as long as he was Republican, I can see someone on the GOP side telling him not to worry - wink wink.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
44. I heard mysterious reports of rumors of a caravan of hundreds of senior citizens
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 10:49 PM
Dec 2017

riding over from The Villages in Florida to vote for Moore, then turning around and driving right back. I’m just sayin.....

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
45. Too late... Alabama certified Jones as the winner anyway...
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:47 AM
Dec 2017

Alabama certifies Jones’ Senate victory

The state of Alabama on Thursday certified Democrat Doug Jones as the winner of this month’s special Senate election after a judge denied Republican Roy Moore’s effort to halt the process via a last-ditch lawsuit charging widespread voter fraud.

Jones won the election with 673,896 votes, or just under 50 percent of the total votes cast in the Dec. 12 special election for the seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, according to official results released Thursday. Moore received 651,972 votes, or 48.3 percent. The remaining 22,852 voters wrote in other candidates.

Moore, who has refused to concede since the Dec. 12 vote, filed a last-minute lawsuit late Wednesday seeking to delay certification of Jones’ win and launch a fraud investigation into the election results. But the certification proceeded as planned on Thursday, with Secretary of State John Merrill, Gov. Kay Ivey and state Attorney General Steve Marshall — all Republicans — signing off on the proceedings. Shortly before the 1 p.m. Central Time event, a Montgomery County circuit court judge had denied Moore’s attempt to obtain a restraining order to stop the state’s action.

Moore did not concede to Jones nor congratulate him on his win on Thursday, instead issuing a defiant statement that reiterated his allegations of voter fraud and said he has "stood for the truth about God and the Constitution for the people of Alabama."
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