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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 02:57 PM Dec 2017

Chuck Grassley says his estate tax comments were misinterpreted

Source: Omaha World-Herald




Dec 4, 2017 Updated 1 hr ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A top Republican senator said Monday his comments were misinterpreted when he defended GOP efforts to scale back the federal estate taxes because it helps those who invest rather than people who spend their money on “booze or women or movies.”

“My point regarding the estate tax, which has been taken out of context, is that the government shouldn’t seize the fruits of someone’s lifetime of labor after they die,” Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said in a statement. “The question is one of basic fairness, and working to create a tax code that doesn’t penalize frugality, saving and investment.”

The seven-term senator, a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee, made the comments about the estate tax late last week in an interview with the Des Moines Register. It has attracted attention since.

Grassley told the newspaper, “I think not having the estate tax recognizes the people that are investing as opposed to those that are just spending every darn penny they have, whether it’s on booze or women or movies.”





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Chuck Grassley says his estate tax comments were misinterpreted (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
"taken out of context".... in what context would it be okay to say what he said? renate Dec 2017 #1
"Inappropriately" revealed what they're thinking about us. Hortensis Dec 2017 #21
Ah yes. The favorite dodge of the Republican.... 47of74 Dec 2017 #2
Fuck him. If that's out of context then he should retire. nt chowder66 Dec 2017 #3
He must resign Abouttime Dec 2017 #19
What's to misunderstand, we read them just as he said them. marble falls Dec 2017 #4
but, but Horizens Dec 2017 #5
we know what you meant Chuck. JHan Dec 2017 #6
Yep, we understood you just fine Grassley. irisblue Dec 2017 #22
they're always gaslighting us JHan Dec 2017 #25
Fkoff grissled mummy Fullduplexxx Dec 2017 #7
Anyone else besides me tired of octogenarians running (ruining) the country? disalitervisum Dec 2017 #8
YES! I'm particularly sick of old, white men ruining the country. smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #11
Sadistic evil old men dalton99a Dec 2017 #12
+10000000000 irisblue Dec 2017 #23
Estate tax affects only the ultra wealthy. Why do they lie? truthisfreedom Dec 2017 #9
Bingo. dalton99a Dec 2017 #10
Old Cuchie truy believes the Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #13
I said yesterday it would be interesting to see how they walk this back. old guy Dec 2017 #14
Republicans see taxes on the wealthy not as a patriotic duty, but rather... Beartracks Dec 2017 #15
Keep digging, Chuck Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #16
Bullshit, up-Chuck!!! FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2017 #17
I love it when assholes go on the defensive when criticized for their mindless blathering lunatica Dec 2017 #18
"that is not who I am" is always my favorite Skittles Dec 2017 #20
Nope, we got ya. Corgigal Dec 2017 #24
Wow, his office must be dealing with xxqqqzme Dec 2017 #26
How long did it take his team to come up with that one? Had to be difficult. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #27
Well, what I've learned in recent months as I'm an executor of an estate, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #28

renate

(13,776 posts)
1. "taken out of context".... in what context would it be okay to say what he said?
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 02:58 PM
Dec 2017

What a pathetic turd.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. "Inappropriately" revealed what they're thinking about us.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 04:13 PM
Dec 2017

I've heard it so many times. Our conservative neighbors want to think they're talking about poor people who get government aid, but the demonizing is on all of us to excuse what they want to do to all of us.

I once listened from a nearby table (kids were out golfing in a heat I couldn't take) at a country club in the Bentonville/Walmart headquarters area of Arkansas to some apparently visiting, guessing very high-level execs--higher than Walmart requires vendors to actually live there to do business. They were talking about the subdivisions that had grown up in that area and others and how Americans are buying far larger houses than we need, which we then fill with years of extravagantly wasteful consumerism, instead of saving and building our personal "worth."

Won't exactly argue with any of these premises, but I had a huge problem with the underlying theme they were nodding over -- that employees across the nation were overpaid and couldn't handle the corruption of money well, were wasting by far most of it, and that previous generations worked harder and lived better, more moral lives on much less. As a real estate appraiser listening keenly, I translated one guy's description they were nodding at into the around 1000-1400 square 3-brm homes that were once common as a more appropriate size for our happier, more moral families. Has been and is for many, but their decision for us?

Every time scoundrels like Hatch come to mind, that smug and hypocritical conversation comes to mind. My experienced version of Romney's "47%" presentation.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
2. Ah yes. The favorite dodge of the Republican....
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 02:59 PM
Dec 2017

...who got his or her ass called to the carpet for spewing bullshit.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. YES! I'm particularly sick of old, white men ruining the country.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:08 PM
Dec 2017

And they are almost always old, white men.

truthisfreedom

(23,160 posts)
9. Estate tax affects only the ultra wealthy. Why do they lie?
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:05 PM
Dec 2017

It affects a tiny percentage of our population.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Old Cuchie truy believes the
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:10 PM
Dec 2017

statement he made earlier about poor people. Honestly,knowing the Rural areas of Minnesota and Iowa and South Dakota,this is a theme used by thousands of older White people who tend to be feeling or playing the Victim Card. Ignorance is Bliss to these.

old guy

(3,284 posts)
14. I said yesterday it would be interesting to see how they walk this back.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:11 PM
Dec 2017

This is really a lame attempt, even worse than I expected.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
15. Republicans see taxes on the wealthy not as a patriotic duty, but rather...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:14 PM
Dec 2017

... as what Rush Limbaugh called "punishing success." Because, as everyone knows, your value as an American is based on the size of your bank account.

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Freethinker65

(10,082 posts)
16. Keep digging, Chuck
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:16 PM
Dec 2017

A majority of frugal American savers will never ever have anything close to 5 or 10 million dollars in their estates after working from their teen years to retirement age. While the estate tax cut/elimation will affect some current self-made entrepreneurs, its main goal is to keep family dynasties, which have accumulated their wealth on the backs of “Ordinary Americans”, in tact with future generations free to inherit and never give anything back in perpetuity.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. I love it when assholes go on the defensive when criticized for their mindless blathering
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 04:05 PM
Dec 2017

They're pathetic, claiming they're so misunderstood!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
24. Nope, we got ya.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 04:21 PM
Dec 2017

However, if it wasn't for us regular humans buying things for life along the way, our whole way of being would collapse, asshole.

I bought a pine candle today, cause holidays and I like it. Your ass should thank me for buying this silly little item, not belittle us. People who don't even understand how our economy works, should never be elected to a damn thing.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
26. Wow, his office must be dealing with
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 04:43 PM
Dec 2017

many, many persons extremely angry with this self appointed overseer of the 99.8%!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,920 posts)
28. Well, what I've learned in recent months as I'm an executor of an estate,
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 04:57 PM
Dec 2017

is that a dead person can't own anything. And that NOTHING should be passed on to anyone until the estate has been settled.

I didn't know that until after I signed the deceased man's car over to someone, and gave away a bunch of personal possessions. However, since all bills have been settled, it doesn't matter that I broke the law.

I'm not in favor of total confiscation of a dead person't property and wealth, something I've seen suggested on occasion. But given that a person can pass on some $5.49million tax free under the current law, I think that's plenty generous enough.

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