Flynn charged with one count of making false statement

[George II]

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller has charged former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn with "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador.

Flynn is the first Trump administration official and the fourth connected to the campaign to be charged as part of Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between the Russian government and members of Trump's team, as well as potential obstruction of justice and financial crimes.

Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates were indicted last month; they pleaded not guilty. And Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty for making a false statement to the FBI over contacts with officials connected to the Russian government.

The charge against Flynn is the first in Mueller's probe that have reached someone in the Trump White House and is the latest sign that the special counsel investigation is intensifying.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-charged/index.html

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Woo hoo!!!! The shoes are dropping!

CNN is now saying that this is preliminary to a guilty plea, which could happen when he appears in court at 10:30 this morning!

[Glimmer of Hope]

1. LOCK HIM UP!

[olegramps]

65. This is deliciously ironic! The "Lock her up Trump Sucker" is facing jail time.

[olegramps]

66. Takes some of that shine off those Stars. He will be doing a lot of polishing to get that crap off.

[Glimmer of Hope]

67. If only Hillary would tweet this. I would die!

[7962]

69. She really should. The RW would go freakin nuts. nt

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[underpants]

2. Sounds like Pappadoupolis's charge

So can we suppose that a plea deal was struck?

[lagomorph777]

25. MSNBC is reporting that he has pleaded guilty, so this definitely is a flip.

It's a very light charge compared to what his liability is; that's no accident. It's a flip.

[cilla4progress]

3. Gee -

could this be why all the recent hate on CNN?

Watching..holding my breath. In custody - REALLY?????

[mobeau69]

4. Boom

Link to tweet

[mobeau69]

10. Indictment here:

https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rwejdMF_3wJ4/v0

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

43. Well technically that's an accusation, not an indictment

That's why it has an "A" number. But that's just an unimportant technicality. You do an accusation in lieu of a presentment to the grand jury when the defendant agrees there's probable cause for the charge and they're going to plead guilty to it. That's the million dollar fact. There has been a deal struck with Flynn and you only strike a deal to go up the food chain. Let's see, who is higher on this food chain? Hmmm. Can't quite think who it might be. Thanks for posting the link.

[mobeau69]

50. I think it's referred to as an "Information".

Same difference! LOL

[Pachamama]

51. Smells a lot like Immunity from prosecution....

What did Flynn say about immunity?



Oh how the Guilty Plea.....

[Mrs. Overall]

5. LOCK HIM THE F*CK UP!

[rogue emissary]

6. When you have a thirst, it's Mueller time!

[meow2u3]

7. Lock HIM the hell up!

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. This charge looks like a good deal for Flynn--

Makes me wonder what he is giving in return.

[riversedge]

12. Yes, I wonder also.

[ET Awful]

21. Exactly my thought - "We'll only charge you with this count if you give up xxxxxxxxx"

Here's to prosecutions!

[lagomorph777]

28. Definitely a flip. Mueller doesn't let people off so easily.

[FakeNoose]

53. He sang like a canary

I believe Mueller knows what he's doing. This is part & parcel with bringing down the Big Cheese. May they all rot in hell together.

[DippyDem]

9. Lock him up!!!

His words repeatedly said at the 2016 Republican Convention, "Lock her up!"
Now its lock HIM up forever more.
LOCK HIM THE FUCK UP!!!!

[DinahMoeHum]

11. Tee hee! See you in Leavenworth, dick.

[nycbos]

63. He won't be going to Leavenworth.

If he flipped and gives Mueller good information he will go to cub fed or might not due any time.


I would be fine with it if he gives us someone in the Trump family.

[DesertRat]

13. It's happening. Mueller has his star witness.

Link to tweet

[BeyondGeography]

14. Let's hear it for the flynn-flann man

What a champ.

[Chicago1980]

15. And..

.Apparently he'll plead guilty!

[JusticeForAll]

16. Its gonna be a great day! Happy December!

Here’s to hoping that Trump gets his wish that this whole Russia-gate thing is all wrapped up by Christmas. A minor exception is that exoneration will NOT be part of Muellers gift to him!

Happy December everyone!

[L. Coyote]

17. Will a plea agreement be revealed in court? Is he singing like a bird?

That would explain the one charge only.

[lagomorph777]

29. I think they keep them confidential for quite a while.

[L. Coyote]

35. Papa's was very obvious at the time he was charged.

[lagomorph777]

37. Oh, right. So I don't know how that works.

Maybe it's at the discretion of the parties involved?

[mobeau69]

58. Could be released as early as today.

Let's hope it is.

[bucolic_frolic]

18. Obama assured Americans

that any Russian interference in our elections would be answered at a "time and manner of our choosing".

This is the initial volley

[turbinetree]

19. Hey Flynn, you never may see the inside of jail, because you are going to flip

because, I and millions of others such taxpayer should demand that your fucking retirement pay from the U.S. Taxpayer be denied , and that you forfeit all pay, and back pay from your retirement while you were committing a crime against the UNITED STATES and it's taxpayers------------asshole.

You swore asshole to "defend and protect" the Constitution your a fucking traitor ................LOCK HIM UP

[angrychair]

40. + infinity and beyond

[dgibby]

57. He can still be recalled to active duty

and face a Courts Martial. Nothing would make me happier than to see him lose all his benefits and spend the rest of his miserable life breaking big rocks into small rocks in a military prison.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. WaPo article

Michael Flynn charged with making false statement to the FBI

By Josh Dawsey December 1 at 9:34 AM

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn was charged Friday with making a false statement to the FBI about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, marking another monumental development in the wide-ranging probe of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

Flynn was expected to enter a plea at 10:30, according to the special counsel’s office. The charges relate to false statements Flynn made to the FBI on January 24, four days after President Trump was inaugurated, about his meeting with Kislyak during the transition.

The charges include making false statements to the FBI about asking the ambassador in late December to “refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day.” Flynn also told authorities he did not recall the ambassador saying the Russians would moderate their response to Obama administration sanctions after the conversation.

Separately, authorities say Flynn lied about asking the ambassador to delay a vote on United Nations Security Council resolutions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynn-charged-with-making-false-statement-to-the-fbi/2017/12/01/e03a6c48-d6a2-11e7-9461-ba77d604373d_story.html

[BadgerKid]

22. NPR just mentioned Flynn story.

He is expected to plead guilty.

[Yonnie3]

23. Penalty for false statements is a maximum of Five years

18 U.S. Code § 1001 is a maximum of Five years

"shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both."

[Botany]

24. Only one charge? Somebody is ..

[mobeau69]

26. Only one so far. n/t

[Botany]

30. No way will Flynn get out of doing time and his son will see some time too

[mobeau69]

36. Yep. Consecutive sentencing could mean 10 years. n/t

[Botany]

41. Just a guess on my part but I think Mueller held long stretch in prison for Flynn's son ....

.... over his head in order to get him to sing.

Trump has to be shittin' kittens now because Flynn was a key player in working
w/Russia to rig the election. Hence Trump's even more crazy act and tweets this
week.

[mobeau69]

54. Mueller can file additional charges if he doesn't feel Flynn is fully cooperating.

Hope they release the plea agreement this morning.

When you have them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow.

[Dopers_Greed]

27. He got off pretty light. Looks like he made a heckuva deal

Can't wait to see what Herr Twittler manages to type out with his stubby fingers.

[lagomorph777]

33. This is exactly why Turd's been so crazy the past week or so.

He knew this was coming.

[mobeau69]

39. It's too early to tell.

2 x 5 = 10 years. This is just the beginning.

[bearsfootball516]

31. LOCK. HIM. UP!!!

[marble falls]

32. That's one he'll plead guilty to so he can start singing.

[Sunlei]

46. He wants to 'save' his pizzagate-nazi son, so he'll sing like a canary

[marble falls]

47. The word seems to be the son is going to some time, too.

[Sunlei]

52. he's just another little fish privileged-childadult of the big Republican criminals.

[marble falls]

55. He'll write a book no-one will read and speak on a minor RW/fundementalist rubber chicken circuit..

and then settle into a career at Circle K or Stop and Shop or greeting at WalMart. After a little jail time.

[Sunlei]

56. remember the first couple weeks, the flynn "kid" was in the WH almost 'hired' for a job?

They need to all "go down" from that Republican party backed- fraud scam campaign. Big fish and little fish, jail them all.

[marble falls]

59. Yeah, well I wish he'd had been hired if only to watch father and son walk down the road hand in....

hand after being turned out of the White House:

Kinda like this only with handcuffs and Robert Mueller dogging them.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

34. Everybody sing along!

[bathroommonkey76]

38. Paul Callan said on CNN there are two counts that could carry

consecutive five year sentences.

[Sunlei]

42. Sessons & several others lied right on their security forms!, when will they ALL be fired?

[riversedge]

44. k for visibility

[SWBTATTReg]

45. I agree, this pos is a traitor of the highest caliber AND

guess who he's associated with? tRUMP....who is the worst kind of business man (at least 4 bankruptcies), worst kind of traitor ever, worst liar ever, worst president ever

[LonghornJack]

48. Charged by "Information," Not Indictment - Sign of Cooperation

Flynn's charge of lying to the FBI has been done through an INFORMATION, not by grand jury indictment.

In most cases, this charging method is done ONLY when the defendant agrees to waive the grand jury charging process. In my view, this is a strong indication that Flynn is cooperating. The charge by Information is likely done as part of a plea agreement, with cooperation with prosecutors being a huge part of the agreement.

Trump and his people must be doing some heavy-duty sweating about this time.

Keep your popcorn handy!

LHJ

[NastyRiffraff]

49. Let's keep an eye on the big prize

I want Flynn to do a long stretch in jail as much as anyone else, but if he gives up Trump, Kushner, and Junior, I won't mind if Mueller cuts him some slack. This charge of one count of making a false statement is only the beginning. Flynn is still in trouble until he spills what he has on some key people (see above).

[Renew Deal]

60. Lock him up!

[janx]

61. He just pleaded guilty

according to the WaPost.

[George II]

62. He's now a convicted felon.

[Pepsidog]

64. I am still stunned watching RW women yelling lock her up.

As a Father, I took my youngest daughter of 4 children to vote for the first time in 2016 and told her what a historic moment this was, electing the first woman president. Of course, it didn’t turn out that way and looking back I am still stunned to see women chanting “lock her up” regarding Hillary. Except for Obama, for the most part, the men who have led this country during the past 40 years have done a lackluster job. 2016 was the time for an intelligent, thoughtful woman like Merkel in Germany to try and bring the country together. Obviously Hillary was a much more devisive figure and the enmity towards her far greater than I think we on the left expected. But still, to see these mindless, brainwashed republican woman snarl and yell “lock her up” to me is just incredible. As a man, I have always viewed woman as the more rational and mindful gender. And most of these women are middle age or older. I wonder if republican women reserve their hatred for all democratic women candidates or just Hillary. They embraced the female version of Trump in supporting Palin. I suspect I just answered my own question. Very sad for our country.

[7962]

68. So another damn Martha Stewart charge. I want to see REAL charges

Maybe he gets the "lying" charge in exchange for bigger fish though???

[George II]

70. Yes, there'e one big fish that Mueller is after, the orange one:

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F10141927154

[joanbarnes]

71. Does anyone have video of his Perp Walk? I NEED to see it!

[George II]

72. There have been a few on news sites, not downloadable yet.