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turbinetree

(24,631 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:23 AM Nov 2017

This is what happens when James OKeefe succeeds

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Source: Think Progress

WASHINGTON, D.C. — James O’Keefe failed to salvage the reputation of Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore earlier this week, putting the right-wing hack back in the spotlight.

That light mostly casts O’Keefe as a fool, an incompetent jester at the margin of King Donald’s court. His hamfisted attempt to “sting” the Washington Post by feeding them salacious, fake accusations against Moore is indeed a fool’s jape. But to treat O’Keefe and his Project Veritas minions only as dweeby incompetents risks forgetting an important lesson about how dangerous his failures can be to the causes of economic justice, gender equality, and even democracy itself.

As the world points and laughs at his failed attempt at rescuing Moore, O’Keefe is perhaps on the verge of a similar gloomy triumph to the one that made him a political microcelebrity back in 2009. Roughly a mile east of the Washington Post building, inside Courtroom 203 of the D.C. Superior Court, the danger O’Keefe poses has been on full display.

Federal prosecutors are using undercover Project Veritas videos from inside organizing meetings for the “Disrupt J20” inauguration protests to persuade a jury that street medics, photojournalists, and bystanders should be jailed for decades because they were nearby when other people smashed up bank windows and tussled with cops.

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/okeefe-disruptj20-inauguration-protester-trial-4b11e53711ec/



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This is what happens when James OKeefe succeeds (Original Post) turbinetree Nov 2017 OP
I've said it on here time and again NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #1
You remind me of a parallel. rainin Nov 2017 #2
Yes, it is similar NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #4
They're trying to discourage future organized actions like this IronLionZion Nov 2017 #3
Locking.... DonViejo Nov 2017 #5

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
1. I've said it on here time and again
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:50 AM
Nov 2017

Democrats won big in 2008 - Obama got the presidency, Democrats gained seats in the House and had an almost filibuster proof margin in the senate (they had one for a few months after Franken was finally seated and until Ted Kennedy passed away and Scott Brown won his seat) - they also won at the state level. Black voter participation surpassed white voter participation in 2008 - partly because of Obama, but also because ACORN did a great job of getting out the vote in the cities.

In 2009, OKeefe had his ACORN scam video and both the House and Senate fell all over themselves to defund ACORN. Even Democrats voted overwhelmingly to defund. I remember being impressed with Kirsten Gillibrand at the time because she was new and was one of the 6 or 7 Democrats that voted against defunding ACORN. I think the vote was like 89-6 or 7 in the Senate.

Ever since, Democratic fortunes have tanked at the state and national level.

Yes, other organizations picked up the slack after ACORN went down, but ACORN had national clout and name recognition and these other organizations do not yet.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
2. You remind me of a parallel.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:56 AM
Nov 2017

Today, democrats are falling all over themselves to call for the resignation of Conyers and Franken, without even giving them the opportunity to have an ethics investigation.

Democrats eat their own. Republicans circle the wagons.

Do I want to be them? No. But championing due process and acting on the basis of the truth (not a scam video in the case of ACORN) shouldn't be too big of an ask.

Anyway, excellent comment!

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
4. Yes, it is similar
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:20 AM
Nov 2017

Republicans keep recycling losers as well - Nixon lost in 1960, but came back to win in 1968. Reagan lost in 76, but came back to in big in 1980... George HW Bush lost in 1980 to Reagan, then won in 1988... Dole lost out to Bush in 88, and was the nominee in 1996... McCain lost in 2000, but came back and was the nominee in 2008

With Democrats - John Kerry never ran again, despite losing a close election... McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis and Gore never ran again at a national level.

IronLionZion

(45,252 posts)
3. They're trying to discourage future organized actions like this
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:58 AM
Nov 2017

by discouraging good people from providing support as medics, journalists, or even innocent bystanders who just living life in the vicinity of such action. They are desperately pushing the false narrative these people are domestic terrorists while they removed white supremacist groups off the federal watch lists.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
5. Locking....
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:26 AM
Nov 2017

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