Steve Bannon predicts Trump will win 400 electoral votes in 2020 at Values Voters Summit
Source: CBS News
President Trump's former chief strategist Steve Bannon predicted Saturday that his former boss will not only finish out his first term, but win a second term with 400 electoral votes in 2020.
"President Trump's not only going to finish this term, he's going to win with 400 electoral votes in 2020," Bannon told his conservative audience in a speech at the Values Voters Summit in Washington, D.C.
Bannon was directly refuting a recent Vanity Fair article in which two sources said Bannon believes Mr. Trump only has a 30 percent chance of finishing his first term. Bannon, who returned to Breitbart News as its executive chairman after leaving the White House this summer, has pledged to fight for Mr. Trump and his agenda from outside the White House. Part of that pledge includes fighting the establishment GOP Bannon believes is responsible for stifling that agenda.
"And right now it's a season of war against a GOP establishment," Bannon said. For Bannon, much of that war focuses on neutralizing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. On Capitol Hill, "it's like before the Ides of March," Bannon said, referring to the date of Julius Caesar's assassination.
Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-bannon-predicts-trump-will-win-400-electoral-votes-in-2020-at-values-voters-summit/
He's either on some really good drugs or he knows that the next election is to be hacked even more thoroughly than '16. The problem with Russia doing too good of a job hacking voting machines is that it will become obvious to everyone, we'll no longer be looking back lamenting that we should have tried a bit harder in 2 or 3 swing states.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)brush
(53,977 posts)PJMcK
(22,069 posts)He doesn't have the power of which too many of us seem fearful. Granted, the money that the Mercers have is considerable. But Bannon went from being a doorway from the Oval Office to running a crummy, questionable website that caters to losers. Is that audience really the army he's counting on?
Further, Bannon has said that Trump has a 30% chance of finishing his first term. While I agree with that assessment, to a great extent a failed Trump presidency will be largely due to Bannon's influence and actions.
As I said, Bannon's full of it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)sandensea
(21,717 posts)And with our easily hacked voting/vote count machines, it should be a cinch.
FakeNoose
(32,908 posts)I'm sure Putin already knows what our 2020 election counts are going to be.
He doesn't even care who we nominate as the Democratic candidate.
sandensea
(21,717 posts)
"I owe you everything, Uncle Vlad."
"Da - and don't you forget it!"
C_U_L8R
(45,038 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)We ignore him at our peril. He may know he can steal this election. One way or another. We thought we had the last one because we were playing by the rules. He has no rules.
Whats this moron smoking?
karynnj
(59,510 posts)That means he has to win one of the following:
California
New York
Washington
Maryland
Massachusetts
Illinois
Vermont
I think his chance in any one of these states is very near zero. (There are other states that could be added - I took the biggest completely unlikely states and needed one more - so I added Vermont.)
Of course saying he gets 400 is ridiculous is a low bar -- I think that if things continue as they are --he likely loses the Republican primary.
groundloop
(11,534 posts)Our problem is that we played by the rules and didn't even for a moment consider the massive effort which would be put forth by a foreign power to upend our democracy. I'm sure that right wing election hackers have been emboldened by the theft of 2016 and I don't put anything past them for the foreseeable future. Lord knows gopers in Congress have no incentive to put an end to election hacking, it's the only way they're going to remain in power.
karynnj
(59,510 posts)I said there was no way he was likely to win those states, but losing all of them, he could still win. I never believed that Trump had no chance to win.
I took seriously Nate Silver's comment that the swing states very likely would swing in the same direction. When Silver was saying he had a 30% chance of winning -- that meant he had a real shot at winning, even if HRC was more likely. Many of them were close and getting closer at the end. Two things bothered me: 1) the high number of people undecided in the October and later polls. My concern was a gut feeling that these were more likely Republicans repulsed by Trump because there was good reason to be repulsed. In the exit polls, the people disliking both and who were late deciders went to Trump. In most of the swing states, HRC GOT the percent she was polling at the end when she was a couple of points ahead -- Trump exceeded his.
MFM008
(19,836 posts)lives................
louis-t
(23,313 posts)through his first term? I'm confused.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)But 400 ELECTORAL votes. Forgive me, but that requires just TOO MANY LOLs to bother typing them all out.
Maxheader
(4,374 posts)thinks trump is brilliant. He and bannon know
what cheetos likes to hear..
treestar
(82,383 posts)and he only won by EC, which was a fluke.
I'm pretty sure the Democratic candidate next time won't trust the polls or the swing states ever again.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)I think you've got the DTs again.
onenote
(42,831 posts)Given that of the states Hillary won, her margin of victory was less than five points in states with a total of 31 electoral votes, while of the states Trump won, his margin of victory was less than five points in stats with a total of 102 electoral votes.
And that was when his favorability ratings were 10 points higher than they are now (and appear likely to be into the foreseeable future).
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)GOPs suck
Oneironaut
(5,543 posts)Were going to need to throw everything weve got at them. If 2016 taught us anything, its A - Dont believe the polls that say everybody hates Trump, and B - Dont underestimate them.
A massive effort and solid candidate are going to be needed.
standingtall
(2,787 posts)without cheating then it is hopeless.
Oneironaut
(5,543 posts)candidate who can bring people to the polls like never before. Resigning to defeat ensures a Trump win. We need voters to get motivated and vote. Also, we need to get better at debunking fake news. Fake news flowed relatively unanswered in 2016.
standingtall
(2,787 posts)generation candidate showing up just four years after the last once in a generation candidate left office. Improbable. There is no way Trump should be able to win without cheating after all of this. If he can we might as well flush elections down the toilet. I don't believe Trump can win without cheating anyway. Saying Trump can or will win despite being the most unpopular President in history at this point in his presidency serves no purpose,but to energize his deplorable base.
Oneironaut
(5,543 posts)I thought Trump was done for in 2016. I had the same idea - Trump is unlikeable, and nobody will vote for him. The problem is, people will if we dont have a candidate that grabs their attention. I hate to say it, but hes in a good position for re-election right now.
I dont get his appeal either. He has a silent following that refuses to acknowledge their support for him, but will vote for him.
standingtall
(2,787 posts)Trump wasn't simply allowed to have the electoral college stolen for him because his deplorable based liked him it was the let's give him a chance crowd that put him over the top. Now he has had his chance and those swing voters who decided to roll the dice on him don't like what they see. If we treat the 2020 election like an uphill battle all we are going to do is suppress our own turnout while energizing his base.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)ariesgem
(1,634 posts)nt...
and paper ballots with a republican, a democrat and an independent judge counting the ballots.
Vinca
(50,328 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)The 2020 GE is rigged or gerrymandered or voter-suppressed enough, or if ruSSia interferes in just the right way the next time around, who knows WHAT they can accomplish, especially with a thuglican Senate/House
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)stopbush
(24,398 posts)PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)and maybe killed some Koreans, he might well win.
mr_liberal
(1,017 posts)If Democrats nominate someone too far left Trump could win again, and by a large margin.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)purge its party of Bannon and his forces before the 2018 election,, the GOP is lost. IPlus if the Democrats dont turn the tide in 2018, I say there is good chance will never have another Presidential Election.
rockfordfile
(8,709 posts)jmowreader
(50,594 posts)The only people who really like Trump anymore are white supremacists and single-issue Second Amendment absolutists. He's about ready to get the dogshit slapped out of him by Congress for repealing Obamacare the way a dictator would. Traditional conservatives are pissed because he's too evil, and fundamentalist christians are pissed because he's not evil enough.
Somewhere in this thread is a comment that Trump could be primaried out in 2020. I don't know if that's possible, but it's VERY possible the RNC could throw the presidential election in an attempt to save their 22 Senate seats.
kimbutgar
(21,278 posts)But I dont see him winning the west coast states.
Runningdawg
(4,531 posts)Bannon was quoted as saying he only gave Trump a 30% chance of finishing his first term.
Initech
(100,145 posts)Norbert
(6,043 posts)along with Frederick Douglass and the president of the Virgin Islands.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But you never know.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Yavin4
(35,455 posts)Why not put their skills to better use. Like making the next great smart phone instead.
LBM20
(1,580 posts)Ilsa
(61,712 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,254 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,311 posts)J_William_Ryan
(1,761 posts)But Trump being reelected is very likely.
Since 1912, only 4 presidents have failed to win reelection.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Chump will never be more popular than he was on the day he was (s)elected.
The economy is relatively strong and his approval ratings which are in the mid to high thirties are the lowest approval ratings in history at this point in a president's tenure. It's more likely they stay the same or go down than improve.
JHB
(37,166 posts)...said in public but not for public consumption.