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groundloop

(11,534 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:12 PM Oct 2017

Steve Bannon predicts Trump will win 400 electoral votes in 2020 at Values Voters Summit

Source: CBS News

President Trump's former chief strategist Steve Bannon predicted Saturday that his former boss will not only finish out his first term, but win a second term with 400 electoral votes in 2020.

"President Trump's not only going to finish this term, he's going to win with 400 electoral votes in 2020," Bannon told his conservative audience in a speech at the Values Voters Summit in Washington, D.C.

Bannon was directly refuting a recent Vanity Fair article in which two sources said Bannon believes Mr. Trump only has a 30 percent chance of finishing his first term. Bannon, who returned to Breitbart News as its executive chairman after leaving the White House this summer, has pledged to fight for Mr. Trump and his agenda from outside the White House. Part of that pledge includes fighting the establishment GOP Bannon believes is responsible for stifling that agenda.

"And right now it's a season of war against a GOP establishment," Bannon said. For Bannon, much of that war focuses on neutralizing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. On Capitol Hill, "it's like before the Ides of March," Bannon said, referring to the date of Julius Caesar's assassination.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-bannon-predicts-trump-will-win-400-electoral-votes-in-2020-at-values-voters-summit/



He's either on some really good drugs or he knows that the next election is to be hacked even more thoroughly than '16. The problem with Russia doing too good of a job hacking voting machines is that it will become obvious to everyone, we'll no longer be looking back lamenting that we should have tried a bit harder in 2 or 3 swing states.
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Steve Bannon predicts Trump will win 400 electoral votes in 2020 at Values Voters Summit (Original Post) groundloop Oct 2017 OP
delusional or lying nt steve2470 Oct 2017 #1
Both. mahannah Oct 2017 #2
Ass kissing is an investment in a future pardon elehhhhna Oct 2017 #34
Wonder if he predicted he'd get fired? brush Oct 2017 #41
Bannon is full of shit PJMcK Oct 2017 #3
Yep, no question... good luck with that Steve-o, you dumb fuck! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #32
He means that he intends to STEAL his way to 400. sandensea Oct 2017 #4
+1 Auggie Oct 2017 #5
Well no, he must have been talking to Putin lately FakeNoose Oct 2017 #46
Sure. Uncle Vlad would be the linchpin in any such heist. sandensea Oct 2017 #47
bet he predicted he'd have a job too C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #6
HA! 7962 Oct 2017 #8
This sends chills down my spine. rainin Oct 2017 #7
Huh? nwduke Oct 2017 #9
Completely unlikely karynnj Oct 2017 #10
And of course as we all too well remember, there was no path for 45* to win in '16.... groundloop Oct 2017 #12
I never said we could just be confident karynnj Oct 2017 #24
bannons liver MFM008 Oct 2017 #11
Wait, didn't he just predict drumpf wouldn't make it louis-t Oct 2017 #13
400 VOTES, I could believe Plucketeer Oct 2017 #14
Newt Ginrich Maxheader Oct 2017 #15
It's more than 3 years away treestar Oct 2017 #16
Crawl back in your gin bottle, Stevie thegoose Oct 2017 #17
that would be quite a feat onenote Oct 2017 #18
Steal, rig and then lie about it Iliyah Oct 2017 #19
Not 400, but Trump has a good chance of winning in 2020 if everything stays the same as now. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #20
If he stands a good chance of winning if everything stays the same as now standingtall Oct 2017 #25
Not exactly. He can still be beaten. We need a new 2008 Obama-like Oneironaut Oct 2017 #28
So we are suppose to pin our hopes on another once in a standingtall Oct 2017 #30
He can and will win if we dont treat this election as a severely uphill battle. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #58
You cannot compare 2016 to 2020 standingtall Oct 2017 #61
Joe Kennedy III OKNancy Oct 2017 #39
My thoughts exactly... ariesgem Oct 2017 #52
and rtracey Oct 2017 #54
Meanwhile, the rest of us wouldn't be disappointed if the fast food did its trick. Vinca Oct 2017 #21
IF .... LenaBaby61 Oct 2017 #22
You are correct, Its actually quite scary....... Old Vet Oct 2017 #44
He will not be available to run in 2020. So, Drunk Stevie is wrong. nt NCjack Oct 2017 #23
From prison? stopbush Oct 2017 #26
The only prediction Bannon could make that I would believe is that he will eat a Frito Pie soon PubliusEnigma Oct 2017 #27
Maybe not 400, but if economy is decent, he's hurt enough poor people, Hoyt Oct 2017 #29
Depends on the Democratic candidate. mr_liberal Oct 2017 #31
Hillary was "too far left"? bullwinkle428 Oct 2017 #60
If the GOP doesn't get its act together and ,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2017 #33
From a two-bit drunk. rockfordfile Oct 2017 #35
Little Stevie is just so CYOOT! jmowreader Oct 2017 #36
With Russias help of course kimbutgar Oct 2017 #37
WTF In a Vanity Fair iterview Runningdawg Oct 2017 #38
They can't win if they can't steal! Initech Oct 2017 #40
And tRump will fly to the sun and back Norbert Oct 2017 #42
Not likely oberliner Oct 2017 #43
In other words, it is fund raising time. Yawn. McCamy Taylor Oct 2017 #45
Those Russian hackers are something Yavin4 Oct 2017 #48
Why does anyone give two shits what Bannon says? Why even post this shit? LBM20 Oct 2017 #49
I doubt he would be their nominee even if he stays out of prison. NT Ilsa Oct 2017 #50
He's just saying shit to keep his Breitbart readers happy n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #51
WHICH IS IT? 3 days ago Bannon said that Trump was unlikely to finish his first term. no_hypocrisy Oct 2017 #53
400 EC votes is ridiculous. J_William_Ryan Oct 2017 #55
Only one president was re-elected with a smaller share of the vote than he won the first time -0bama DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #57
Comments designed to put a smile on a particular orange face... JHB Oct 2017 #56
Trying to GASLIGHT. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #59

PJMcK

(22,069 posts)
3. Bannon is full of shit
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:17 PM
Oct 2017

He doesn't have the power of which too many of us seem fearful. Granted, the money that the Mercers have is considerable. But Bannon went from being a doorway from the Oval Office to running a crummy, questionable website that caters to losers. Is that audience really the army he's counting on?

Further, Bannon has said that Trump has a 30% chance of finishing his first term. While I agree with that assessment, to a great extent a failed Trump presidency will be largely due to Bannon's influence and actions.

As I said, Bannon's full of it.

sandensea

(21,717 posts)
4. He means that he intends to STEAL his way to 400.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:19 PM
Oct 2017

And with our easily hacked voting/vote count machines, it should be a cinch.

FakeNoose

(32,908 posts)
46. Well no, he must have been talking to Putin lately
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:54 PM
Oct 2017

I'm sure Putin already knows what our 2020 election counts are going to be.
He doesn't even care who we nominate as the Democratic candidate.

sandensea

(21,717 posts)
47. Sure. Uncle Vlad would be the linchpin in any such heist.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:58 PM
Oct 2017


"I owe you everything, Uncle Vlad."

"Da - and don't you forget it!"

rainin

(3,011 posts)
7. This sends chills down my spine.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:28 PM
Oct 2017

We ignore him at our peril. He may know he can steal this election. One way or another. We thought we had the last one because we were playing by the rules. He has no rules.

karynnj

(59,510 posts)
10. Completely unlikely
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:47 PM
Oct 2017

That means he has to win one of the following:

California
New York
Washington
Maryland
Massachusetts
Illinois
Vermont

I think his chance in any one of these states is very near zero. (There are other states that could be added - I took the biggest completely unlikely states and needed one more - so I added Vermont.)

Of course saying he gets 400 is ridiculous is a low bar -- I think that if things continue as they are --he likely loses the Republican primary.

groundloop

(11,534 posts)
12. And of course as we all too well remember, there was no path for 45* to win in '16....
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:56 PM
Oct 2017

Our problem is that we played by the rules and didn't even for a moment consider the massive effort which would be put forth by a foreign power to upend our democracy. I'm sure that right wing election hackers have been emboldened by the theft of 2016 and I don't put anything past them for the foreseeable future. Lord knows gopers in Congress have no incentive to put an end to election hacking, it's the only way they're going to remain in power.

karynnj

(59,510 posts)
24. I never said we could just be confident
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:53 PM
Oct 2017

I said there was no way he was likely to win those states, but losing all of them, he could still win. I never believed that Trump had no chance to win.

I took seriously Nate Silver's comment that the swing states very likely would swing in the same direction. When Silver was saying he had a 30% chance of winning -- that meant he had a real shot at winning, even if HRC was more likely. Many of them were close and getting closer at the end. Two things bothered me: 1) the high number of people undecided in the October and later polls. My concern was a gut feeling that these were more likely Republicans repulsed by Trump because there was good reason to be repulsed. In the exit polls, the people disliking both and who were late deciders went to Trump. In most of the swing states, HRC GOT the percent she was polling at the end when she was a couple of points ahead -- Trump exceeded his.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. 400 VOTES, I could believe
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:01 PM
Oct 2017

But 400 ELECTORAL votes. Forgive me, but that requires just TOO MANY LOLs to bother typing them all out.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. It's more than 3 years away
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:05 PM
Oct 2017

and he only won by EC, which was a fluke.

I'm pretty sure the Democratic candidate next time won't trust the polls or the swing states ever again.

onenote

(42,831 posts)
18. that would be quite a feat
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:07 PM
Oct 2017

Given that of the states Hillary won, her margin of victory was less than five points in states with a total of 31 electoral votes, while of the states Trump won, his margin of victory was less than five points in stats with a total of 102 electoral votes.

And that was when his favorability ratings were 10 points higher than they are now (and appear likely to be into the foreseeable future).

Oneironaut

(5,543 posts)
20. Not 400, but Trump has a good chance of winning in 2020 if everything stays the same as now.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:21 PM
Oct 2017

We’re going to need to throw everything we’ve got at them. If 2016 taught us anything, it’s A - Don’t believe the polls that say everybody hates Trump, and B - Dont underestimate them.

A massive effort and solid candidate are going to be needed.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
25. If he stands a good chance of winning if everything stays the same as now
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:15 PM
Oct 2017

without cheating then it is hopeless.

Oneironaut

(5,543 posts)
28. Not exactly. He can still be beaten. We need a new 2008 Obama-like
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:25 PM
Oct 2017

candidate who can bring people to the polls like never before. Resigning to defeat ensures a Trump win. We need voters to get motivated and vote. Also, we need to get better at debunking fake news. Fake news flowed relatively unanswered in 2016.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
30. So we are suppose to pin our hopes on another once in a
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:34 PM
Oct 2017

generation candidate showing up just four years after the last once in a generation candidate left office. Improbable. There is no way Trump should be able to win without cheating after all of this. If he can we might as well flush elections down the toilet. I don't believe Trump can win without cheating anyway. Saying Trump can or will win despite being the most unpopular President in history at this point in his presidency serves no purpose,but to energize his deplorable base.

Oneironaut

(5,543 posts)
58. He can and will win if we dont treat this election as a severely uphill battle.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:11 AM
Oct 2017

I thought Trump was done for in 2016. I had the same idea - Trump is unlikeable, and nobody will vote for him. The problem is, people will if we don’t have a candidate that grabs their attention. I hate to say it, but he’s in a good position for re-election right now.

I don’t get his appeal either. He has a silent following that refuses to acknowledge their support for him, but will vote for him.



standingtall

(2,787 posts)
61. You cannot compare 2016 to 2020
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
Oct 2017

Trump wasn't simply allowed to have the electoral college stolen for him because his deplorable based liked him it was the let's give him a chance crowd that put him over the top. Now he has had his chance and those swing voters who decided to roll the dice on him don't like what they see. If we treat the 2020 election like an uphill battle all we are going to do is suppress our own turnout while energizing his base.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
54. and
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:53 PM
Oct 2017

and paper ballots with a republican, a democrat and an independent judge counting the ballots.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
22. IF ....
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:30 PM
Oct 2017

The 2020 GE is rigged or gerrymandered or voter-suppressed enough, or if ruSSia interferes in just the right way the next time around, who knows WHAT they can accomplish, especially with a thuglican Senate/House

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. Maybe not 400, but if economy is decent, he's hurt enough poor people,
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:34 PM
Oct 2017

and maybe killed some Koreans, he might well win.

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
31. Depends on the Democratic candidate.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:41 PM
Oct 2017

If Democrats nominate someone too far left Trump could win again, and by a large margin.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
33. If the GOP doesn't get its act together and ,,,,
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 04:55 PM
Oct 2017

purge its party of Bannon and his forces before the 2018 election,, the GOP is lost. IPlus if the Democrats dont turn the tide in 2018, I say there is good chance will never have another Presidential Election.

jmowreader

(50,594 posts)
36. Little Stevie is just so CYOOT!
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:26 PM
Oct 2017

The only people who really like Trump anymore are white supremacists and single-issue Second Amendment absolutists. He's about ready to get the dogshit slapped out of him by Congress for repealing Obamacare the way a dictator would. Traditional conservatives are pissed because he's too evil, and fundamentalist christians are pissed because he's not evil enough.

Somewhere in this thread is a comment that Trump could be primaried out in 2020. I don't know if that's possible, but it's VERY possible the RNC could throw the presidential election in an attempt to save their 22 Senate seats.

Runningdawg

(4,531 posts)
38. WTF In a Vanity Fair iterview
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:34 PM
Oct 2017

Bannon was quoted as saying he only gave Trump a 30% chance of finishing his first term.

Norbert

(6,043 posts)
42. And tRump will fly to the sun and back
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 05:48 PM
Oct 2017

along with Frederick Douglass and the president of the Virgin Islands.

Yavin4

(35,455 posts)
48. Those Russian hackers are something
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 07:07 PM
Oct 2017

Why not put their skills to better use. Like making the next great smart phone instead.

J_William_Ryan

(1,761 posts)
55. 400 EC votes is ridiculous.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 12:18 AM
Oct 2017

But Trump being reelected is very likely.

Since 1912, only 4 presidents have failed to win reelection.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
57. Only one president was re-elected with a smaller share of the vote than he won the first time -0bama
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 08:47 AM
Oct 2017

Chump will never be more popular than he was on the day he was (s)elected.

The economy is relatively strong and his approval ratings which are in the mid to high thirties are the lowest approval ratings in history at this point in a president's tenure. It's more likely they stay the same or go down than improve.

JHB

(37,166 posts)
56. Comments designed to put a smile on a particular orange face...
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 01:25 AM
Oct 2017

...said in public but not for public consumption.

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