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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:34 PM Oct 2017

Trump to Scrap Critical Health Care Subsidies, Hitting Obamacare Again

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump will scrap subsidies to health insurance companies that help pay out-of-pocket costs of low-income people, the White House said late Thursday. His plans were disclosed hours after the president ordered potentially sweeping changes in the nation’s insurance system, including sales of cheaper policies with fewer benefits and fewer protections for consumers.

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Without the subsidies, insurance markets could quickly unravel. Insurers have said they will need much higher premiums and may pull out of the insurance exchanges created under the Affordable Care Act if the subsidies were cut off. Known as cost-sharing reduction payments, or CSRs, the subsidies were expected to total $9 billion in the coming year and nearly $100 billion in the coming decade.

“The government cannot lawfully make the cost-sharing reduction payments,” the White House said in a statement.

It concluded: “Congress needs to repeal and replace the disastrous Obamacare law and provide real relief to the American people.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/us/politics/trump-obamacare-executive-order-health-insurance.html



So, pull FEMA and the military out of Puerto Rico, allow insurance companies to sell junk policies, don't make insurance companies cover anything they don't want to, don't cover contraception, decertify the Iran nuclear agreement, toss out the dreamers, ignore the California wildfires, and don't say a word about the Green Berets killed in Niger.

I hope the Trump voters are thrilled with their President.
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Trump to Scrap Critical Health Care Subsidies, Hitting Obamacare Again (Original Post) Stonepounder Oct 2017 OP
America in Nov of 2016 Matthew28 Oct 2017 #1
we need to be calling our lawmakers. barbtries Oct 2017 #2
CA OR WA HI need to start joining forces and planning for the outcome nt msongs Oct 2017 #3
I wonder how many Trump voters will lose their insurance? Seedersandleechers Oct 2017 #4
When Canadians voted for the greatest Canadian in history Rustynaerduwell Oct 2017 #5
I thought I was crazy, I did. trixie2 Oct 2017 #6
It is now "Trumpcare" so stop calling it "Obamacare." coolsandy Oct 2017 #7
Exactly! trixie2 Oct 2017 #10
No, its now "Republicare" as the Repugnants own this mess just as much as Trump now. nt cstanleytech Oct 2017 #11
People say I'm cRaZy doing what I'm doing KWR65 Oct 2017 #8
My blood will be on his and the GOP's tiny hands. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #9
Pile Of Human Feces In White House SeattlePop Oct 2017 #12
Each day gets worse. riversedge Oct 2017 #13
Is this his way of hiding the fact that he's a paper patriot, disrepectful of our military? ffr Oct 2017 #14
Someone nailed his whole existance. MFM008 Oct 2017 #15
Locking - duplicate thread muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #16

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
1. America in Nov of 2016
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:35 PM
Oct 2017

Elected a "government" that hates everything about government and aims to give it all to the super rich. Welcome back the the 15h century where the rich baron rules you and you have no choice.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
2. we need to be calling our lawmakers.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:37 PM
Oct 2017

this is a fucking emergency. he's a loose cannon with more hate in his pinky toe nail than i ever thought one human could contain. that anyone could still be oblivious to what a menace he is astounds me.

msongs

(67,443 posts)
3. CA OR WA HI need to start joining forces and planning for the outcome nt
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:43 PM
Oct 2017

Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
4. I wonder how many Trump voters will lose their insurance?
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:50 PM
Oct 2017

Rustynaerduwell

(665 posts)
5. When Canadians voted for the greatest Canadian in history
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:28 AM
Oct 2017

Tommy Douglas was voted #1. Why? Because he brought universal health care to his Country. It's gonna suck for a little while, but when universal health care comes to America- and it will- President Obama will be remembered for getting the ball rolling. And Mr. Trump will be remembered for trying to stop it.

trixie2

(905 posts)
6. I thought I was crazy, I did.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:32 AM
Oct 2017

I am so glad this is out in the open. I am probably very left leaning, even on this board. I was all for the ACA and when I got laid off in 2016 I signed up immediately. I was at a comfortable premium cost level. I got rid of cable but I am glad it pushed me that way anyways for I now get more channels just through the air. I stopped playing cards once a week. I have cut down on everything but I was not complaining because that is what one does when they are laid off. I needed my savings to last as long as it could and I thought I had 3 - 4 years in the bank but in less then 2 years I am looking at withdrawing from my investments which will kill me tax wise. All in all, I was pleased with my insurance since it was better than anything I ever had from my work insurance.

In January of 2017 my premium went up maybe $20 bucks a month, still ok in my book. Since Trump has taken office my insurance company has re issued my contract with huge raises in premiums and making my co-pays very large. This happened 3 times since February and each time the decide to redo the contract my yearly deductible restarts at zero. Each time my premium has increased to where right now it is 4 times the initial bid in January of 2017 and my co-pays are so high the pharmacy had just charged me as if I had no insurance because it's cheaper. I have to stop my insurance for I am now choosing my premium or my mortgage. My current insurance company has offered me $300 a month and I pay 100% of all doctor visits and other costs. What a deal! Mmmmm no.

I really thought I was crazy but he has let the insurance companies run amok to make the ACA implode.

 

coolsandy

(479 posts)
7. It is now "Trumpcare" so stop calling it "Obamacare."
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:44 AM
Oct 2017

trixie2

(905 posts)
10. Exactly!
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:14 AM
Oct 2017

I know I keep saying ACA. My brother said, when I was losing my mind, that trumpcare had already started. I guess I needed to see a thread. IDK.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
11. No, its now "Republicare" as the Repugnants own this mess just as much as Trump now. nt
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:23 AM
Oct 2017

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
8. People say I'm cRaZy doing what I'm doing
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:55 AM
Oct 2017

well they give me all kinds of warnings to save me from losing
when I say I'm OK they look at me kind of strange

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
9. My blood will be on his and the GOP's tiny hands.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:04 AM
Oct 2017

I have been fighting this tooth and nail since Jan. I AM SICK! I am getting sicker and the mental and emotional stress is making me worse. I wanted to die before his term was over so I wouldn't have to see him destroy my country. He has accomplished that already. Now I want to live long enough to watch him and the entire GOP and his dumb fuck base go down in flames. I just hope I die before I bankrupt my 83 year old parents since they will lose their money paying for my necessary surgeries and I can't let that happen.

 

SeattlePop

(256 posts)
12. Pile Of Human Feces In White House
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:49 AM
Oct 2017

Folks, what are you going to do about "him"?

riversedge

(70,306 posts)
13. Each day gets worse.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:12 AM
Oct 2017

ffr

(22,671 posts)
14. Is this his way of hiding the fact that he's a paper patriot, disrepectful of our military?
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:34 AM
Oct 2017

Or is it because he has no empathy for people whose homes are burning to the ground?

Or is it because he has no plan to deal with bump-stock assault weapons?

Or is this because Meuller's investigation of his high crimes keeps him up all night?

Or is it because we see his blatant racism for any Americans who are not white?

Or is it because he wants to bomb other nations and kill people in masses and his generals are ignoring his pleas to do so?

Or is it because he is just suffering from dementia and the fact he's a fucking moron that nobody likes and will be unwept when he passes?

The most important issue on his plate right now, from his standpoint, is taking healthcare away from Americans.

Elections have consequences. This is what Hillary warned us of.

MFM008

(19,820 posts)
15. Someone nailed his whole existance.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 03:03 AM
Oct 2017

He has led a consequence free life.
He lives while good men and innocents die.
He prospers whis others starve and lose everything.

My dad was a good guy who worked hard and honestly.He was
in charge of intake at a VA hospital here in WA for 20
years after serving in the USAF for 23 years.
He took every admits belongings and cataloged them, basically checking a vet in.
One guy came in with at least 100 thousand dollars in a trunk and he died shortly after.
My dad found the address of the next of kin and made sure his family got the money and belongings.
E V E R Y single penny.
They didnt know about the money.
He left us at age 69 on September 11 , 2000 suddenly.
Instead maggot gleefully takes away healthcare from my mother who was also an army vet and many others
including 9 million kids on CHIP.
Says people who work at the VA are horrible evil people.
I am overcome.




muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
16. Locking - duplicate thread
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:22 AM
Oct 2017

of https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141888469 . Please continue discussion there. Thanks.

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