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sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:41 PM Oct 2017

U..S. Votes Against U.N. Ban On Death Penalty For Homosexuality

Source: Newnownext.com

A United Nations resolution banning the death penalty for homosexuality was opposed by a total of 13 countries in the U.N. Human Rights Council. While several were in Africa and the Middle East, the U.S. surprisingly voted against the measure, as well.

Fortunately the resolution passed on Friday anyway, with 27 countries voting for the measure.

"This is a monumental moment where the international community has publicly highlighted that these horrific laws simply must end,” said Renato Sabbadini, director of The International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA). “It is unconscionable to think that there are hundreds of millions of people living in states where somebody may be executed simply because of whom they love.”

Previous efforts by Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Russia to block or water down the resolution failed.

Read more: http://www.newnownext.com/u-s-votes-against-u-n-ban-on-death-penalty-for-homosexuality/10/2017/

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U..S. Votes Against U.N. Ban On Death Penalty For Homosexuality (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 OP
We are run the the talibornagain. muntrv Oct 2017 #1
Hold on! It's bad, but not as bad as it sounds. Towlie Oct 2017 #30
Yeah, I was going to post something similar. Lokilooney Oct 2017 #33
This is incredible. As in, hard to believe, even for Trumpistan. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #2
President Pence issued his orders to Haley and she obeyed like a loyal lap dog. LonePirate Oct 2017 #3
Trump, Pence, Ryan.... Plucketeer Oct 2017 #15
This cant be true, tell me it isnt true. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #4
Good grief shenmue Oct 2017 #5
That's my reaction exactly. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #26
there is no end, it seems, to the despicable crap coming out of this maladministration niyad Oct 2017 #6
Besides the usual suspects, Mendocino Oct 2017 #7
Say what now? mountain grammy Oct 2017 #8
I simply can't believe the US vote. When do we institute public stoning for adultery? George II Oct 2017 #9
When Pence gets in? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #13
If we do that, they would be hardly any adults left to stone the guilty parties in T raccoon Oct 2017 #29
donnie would be first in line, EXCEPT...... George II Oct 2017 #31
True. Nt raccoon Oct 2017 #32
Imbeciles run this country now.. nt vkkv Oct 2017 #10
Was this a mistake? IronLionZion Oct 2017 #11
Idiocracy. sarcasmo Oct 2017 #12
ASSHOLES Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #14
Here is a link to the resolution angrychair Oct 2017 #16
why? RussBLib Oct 2017 #17
When I read this headline, I thought ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #18
With a government like Trumps ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #19
Still sweating - Dubya and Jeff Gannon keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #20
We did what Saudi Arabia told us to do. Wolf Frankula Oct 2017 #21
The headline is very confusing, i had to read it a couple times to understand what it was saying Calista241 Oct 2017 #22
I had to read it 2x NJCher Oct 2017 #24
GOD DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!! Initech Oct 2017 #23
Nimrodda Haley is garbage. RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #25
What the fuck? whopis01 Oct 2017 #27
OMFG! At first I read this incorrectly and thought this country have done the right thing. raccoon Oct 2017 #28
The US is never going to vote for a UN resolution that calls for the abolition of the death penalty onenote Oct 2017 #34

Towlie

(5,318 posts)
30. Hold on! It's bad, but not as bad as it sounds.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:53 PM
Oct 2017
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/state-department-defends-us-vote-against-death-penalty-ban-at-the-un/article/2636429

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson's team on Tuesday defended the decision to vote against a United Nations resolution calling for the "abolition of the death penalty," and said the language was an overly broad measure that is at odds with U.S. practice.

"The United States clearly has the death penalty, both at the state and the federal level; that is why we voted against this," State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert told reporters.

The broad resolution criticized the use of the death penalty in several cases, including its use to punish homosexual behavior. Nauert made it clear that the U.S. also opposes the death penalty in these cases, but said it had to oppose the measure in its entirety at the U.N.


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Lokilooney

(322 posts)
33. Yeah, I was going to post something similar.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:43 PM
Oct 2017

This bill apparently contained language condemning the execution of the mentally ill. It's long been US policy not to support anything overly critical of the death penalty, I suspect it wouldn't be much different under a Democratic administration where there would probably be an abstain vote like in 2014 UN's moratorium on the death penalty.

Face it, regardless of administration we are to much in love with our state sanctioned murder.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
2. This is incredible. As in, hard to believe, even for Trumpistan.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:50 PM
Oct 2017

The article gives no pretext that Republican Nikki Haley or Republican Rex Tillerson or RepubliCON Дональд Трамп (Donald Trump) might be using to attempt to explain / excuse their vote and policy.

Unconscionable.

LogCabin RepubliCONNED suckers: take note of what your party has come to stand for.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
15. Trump, Pence, Ryan....
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:52 PM
Oct 2017

All serve to make me

I'd rather have the White House janitors take over. I'd trust them more even if I have no idea who they are!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
26. That's my reaction exactly.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:40 PM
Oct 2017

I can't believe this. It's another "Twilight Zone" moment for me. Why would we ever vote against such a ban? It's just evil!

niyad

(113,055 posts)
6. there is no end, it seems, to the despicable crap coming out of this maladministration
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:03 PM
Oct 2017

(and let us remember that the US has STILL not ratified CEDAW--to end violence and discrimination against women)

Mendocino

(7,482 posts)
7. Besides the usual suspects,
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:07 PM
Oct 2017

I'm somewhat surprised of Japan, not of the US. Gods, guns and anti-gays run this myopic country.

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. donnie would be first in line, EXCEPT......
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:57 PM
Oct 2017

....to many truly religious zealots only the woman commits adultery, the man is virtually guilt-free.

When was the last time any of us ever heard of a man in one of those countries being punished for adultery?

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
11. Was this a mistake?
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:15 PM
Oct 2017

Did Nikki Haley miss a lot of sleep from jet lag and hit the wrong button when she voted? Nazis would get her in round one. She should be smart enough to know she can't rise up by stepping on the heads of gay people.

I don't know any conservatives who want the death penalty for homosexuals, and I would steer clear of such people.

angrychair

(8,678 posts)
16. Here is a link to the resolution
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:55 PM
Oct 2017

It did pass, despite objections. It is, unfortunately, non-binding which makes it even more ridiculous and insulting that we cannot even agree to such things in principle.
http://www.universal-rights.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/The-question-of-the-death-penalty.pdf

Objectively, I would state it has as much to do with the position of the resolution on the economic inequality of the application of the death penalty as well as its mention to prohibit the application of the death penalty to the handicap and those under 18.
I would also guess, given the current religious fervor of the US, that it also would like to leave the application for the death penalty for things like blasphemy open-ended as well.

It’s disturbing and shocking but it has a lot more to do with right wing politics influence on our decisions than is specific to this administration as our record on this council was just as poor in the previous administration.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
19. With a government like Trumps ...
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:30 PM
Oct 2017

It's OK to kill people for being gay? How can we be proud to be an American?

shame - shame - shame

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
22. The headline is very confusing, i had to read it a couple times to understand what it was saying
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:13 PM
Oct 2017

But this is a travesty.

NJCher

(35,619 posts)
24. I had to read it 2x
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:33 PM
Oct 2017

also. It's kind of like a double negative.

Anytime one writes in the negative, it decreases comprehension by 35%.


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Initech

(100,038 posts)
23. GOD DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:20 PM
Oct 2017

Yes these motherfucking scumnbags have me so angry lately that I've been resorting to all caps.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
28. OMFG! At first I read this incorrectly and thought this country have done the right thing.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:42 PM
Oct 2017

At first I read this incorrectly and thought this country had done the right thing.

No such luck. This country is definitely going down the toilet.

onenote

(42,585 posts)
34. The US is never going to vote for a UN resolution that calls for the abolition of the death penalty
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

It doesn't matter what else the resolution says. It could've included language saying that the UN salutes Donald Trump as a great humanitarian and the US would still vote against it.

Why: Because it includes language in which those signing it agree to call upon nations that haven't yet adopted a 1989 UN resolution urging the abolition of the death penalty to consider doing so. And one of those nations that hasn't signed onto that 1989 resolution: the good old USA, which has refused to adopt that resolution for nearly 30 years, in both Democratic administrations and Republican administrations.

It sucks. But it has little to do with anything else in the resolution and everything to do with the language about the 1989 resolution calling for abolition of the death penalty.

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