Trump 'Sad' Over Removal of 'Our Beautiful Statues'

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON Under fire for defending racist activist groups, President Trump said on Twitter on Thursday that he was sad to see United States history torn apart by the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments, echoing a popular refrain of white supremacist groups that oppose the removal of Confederate monuments.

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/politics/trump-charolottesville-confederate-statues.html

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So he quadruples down!

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Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You.....
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...can't change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson - who's next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also...
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...the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!
6:21 AM - 17 Aug 2017

[oswaldactedalone]

1. Would he just go ahead

and wear his Nazi armband and get it over with. It's not a secret anymore that this PINO is a Hitler sympathizer and full-blown Nazi.

[BumRushDaShow]

2. And thing is, you will continue to see GOP officials and the media

ratchet up their expression of the vapors at these latest remarks.

[onit2day]

56. Washington and Jefferson were not traitors

and did not take up arms against the US. We don't have a stature of Benedict Arnold either nor will we tolerate tributes to traitors to humanity and the US.

[BumRushDaShow]

59. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to put a big statue of Putin

on the lawn of the WH. He panders to and is in hock to the worst of humanity.

[onit2day]

60. How many Washington statues are in London

[BumRushDaShow]

61. Or even of this guy, who was born in Scotland

(James Wilson)

yet signed the Declaration of Independence (and even had a copy commissioned just for the UK to have).

[forgotmylogin]

38. He should buy the statues

and move them to his tacky sultan penthouse.

[Johnny2X2X]

3. This is a big deal

He's doubling down on where he stands on this issue, firmly with the KKK.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. He more than doubled down

He made the remarks, came back and equivocated by repeating something handed to him (but essentially doubled down), then tripled down a couple days ago at his presser, and is now quadrupling down!

[ProgressiveValue]

44. He's all in at this point.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. Yup. No doubt about it. nt

[Cold War Spook]

4. Statues of traitors

If someone want to put up a statue of a traitor on his/her own land, go ahead. That is their right. The government whether or not they had to pay for the statue should not put up a statue of a traitor.

[harun]

5. What an idolatress clown. All this is just a sideshow to distract from inequality.

[BumRushDaShow]

8. Or to distract from something else...

maybe something Mueller is doing in the background that has him squealing every time he is touched?

[Botany]

7. So how is that "Gen. Kelly is gonna reign in Trump" thing coming?

Trump really is stuck on stupid. As already noted in this thread
Trump is doubling down on his mistakes.

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Drumpf is determined to "dance with the ones who brung him". nt

[Botany]

11. Trump is just being Trump ..... he has a long history of being a pig.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029453955

[BumRushDaShow]

15. Oh I know

I have been posting various things about him for the past year. I have had a subscription to the NY Times since 1976 and they have been on him and his father for many decades.

[Botany]

16. Trump kept a book w/Hitler's speeches by his bad but we .....

.... heard all about HRC's emails.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. He was literally Hitler's twisted definition of the superior "Aryan race"

[murielm99]

41. That picture could be

my little brothers or cousins. Also, I have that complexion.

We don't need to judge each other by our looks and ethnic background.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. Oh I know

My father was blond up until he was about 4 or 5 (this was back in the '20s). But given this man's pure evil hatred and embrace of the worst of humanity, IMHO it's appropriate.

[treestar]

19. He simply cannot admit to being wrong

and that leads to this kind of stuff.

[Botany]

21. My random totally mindless wild guess is the Trump is gonna resign and ....

.... that President Pence will pardon him. I think these tweets, Trump's
reaction to Charlottesville, and Trump trying to whip up a war w/N Korea
are all a function of Trump feeling the walls closing in on him.

Could the Camp David meeting this weekend w/Pence and others be setting
the stage for Trump's exit?

[maryellen99]

34. He might have heard about this

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/longtime-trump-business-partner-told-family-he-knows-he-and-potus-are-going-to-prison-report/

[Bayard]

9. But he's not sad about people being killed over them

I wouldn't have as much of a problem with them if every monument had a placard that read, "This was so completely wrong and pig-headed". It is part of our country's sad history. I have not been to the monument for the Battle of the Little Big Horn. Does it contain such a disavowal?

[sinkingfeeling]

12. Hey, you stupid fool, history is still history without emblems. If

you think those stone/metal monuments are so beautiful, put them in your penthouse. They'll fit right in.

[mahannah]

13. What has Trump learned from history, or from anything?

[3catwoman3]

53. Zero. Zip. Zilch.

Nada. Nothing.

Hey - we can have a new abbreviation! Z3N2 - what does Trump know about anything.

[Efilroft Sul]

14. Is Trump president of the USA or CSA?

[Yonnie3]

17. Let me fix that for you 'lil donnie

Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart by myself and my minions

No thanks needed.

[handmade34]

20. 'our beautiful statues'

removal is sad but selling our beautiful land and environment to developers is good... he is so wrong and so disingenuous on many levels

[TNNurse]

22. So he identifies as a member of the Confederacy???

Interesting.

[IronLionZion]

23. If he can't tell the difference between our country's founders and those who fought against the US

then he's unqualified to be our president.

There are many great Americans who did great things and don't have enough statues. Time for more diversity in our monuments. How about civil rights leaders and scientists and other important figures?

[Historic NY]

24. I thought he didn't like losers,

Robert E Lee said to case the colours.

[Still In Wisconsin]

26. Yeah, someone should tell Four Chins that Lee surrendered.

He probably doesn't know that.

[bullwinkle428]

35. When he said that Washington and Jefferson were Lee's equivalents,

someone should have responded on Twitter with "I prefer revolutionaries that don't get their ass handed to them!"

[Still In Wisconsin]

25. Wow, so he's going straight up racist now.

He's not even bothering to try hiding it anymore.

[L. Coyote]

29. Yep. He even said the alt-left attacked "us"

[Maeve]

27. This from the one who destroyed Art Deco panels he promised to the Met

http://www.pressherald.com/2016/03/18/trumps-first-media-controversy-is-a-really-great-story/
Let me just leave you with the end of that article:

Later in the summer of 1980, the Times published a 2,200-word Trump profile that revisited the sculpture episode. The ending of the piece is so perfectly, quintessentially Trump in the way it captures his persona.

So we will just leave it at this:

“There is nothing I would like to do more than give something to a museum,” he said in a recent interview. Why? “I’ve always been interested in art.” A visitor observed that there was no art in Mr. Trump’s office. The developer considered this for a moment. Then, with a smile, he pointed to an idealized illustration of Trump Tower hanging on one of the walls.

” ‘If that isn’t art,’ Mr. Trump said, ‘then I don’t know what is.’ “

[Croney]

28. Comparably replaced?

I can think of a dozen heroes who deserve a statue. And no, none of them is an insane orange blob, although I'm sure he would approve of that with glee.

[njhoneybadger]

30. In place of them put those naked statues of tRump

I would donate for that

[Historic NY]

31. There CSA monuments in states that were in the Union at the time of the CW..

Ohio was a Union state, California too, Montana territory nothing except CSA rabble-rousers.

[TexasTowelie]

58. There is also a monument in Arizona.

They didn't become a state until 50 years after the beginning of the Civil War.

[Lulu KC]

32. He makes it sound like they are being destroyed

I think they're all being moved to logical places--like museums. But why am I wasting my time applying logic?

[Lithos]

33. Move the truly historical ones to a museum

Trash those which were erected by the Dixiecrats.

Case solved.

[groundloop]

42. Absolutely. There is much to be learned from a historical perspective.

When 45* talks about culture and history he obviously forgets to mention the part about the inhumanity of slavery. I hear talk from some of my ignorant coworkers that the civil war was fought for economic reasons. Well hell yeah it was fought for economic reasons - it was cheaper to run a plantation with enslaved people than to pay a decent wage for the work.

I'm sickened that such a racist asshole as 45* is occupying the White House, especially after having such an intelligent and graceful family as the Obamas there for 8 years.

[spiderpig]

45. Yep. Goya was a brilliant artist.

But I really don't want to stroll in a public park seeing Saturn devouring his child.

(It's a painting, but you get my point).

That's what museums are for.

[Bleacher Creature]

36. Just to be clear, this is NOT some random argument that popped into his head.

It's an argument that's been made by white nationalists for many, many years.

[BeyondGeography]

37. Trump 2020: I stand with the Daughters of the Confederacy

You run with that.

[defacto7]

39. Had he mentioned anything about the defacing

of out national monuments by his Nazis?

[BumRushDaShow]

52. Or the nooses that appeared in the National Museum of African American History.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/01/531034568/noose-found-at-national-museum-of-african-american-history

[NastyRiffraff]

40. Yet more pandering to the base

I doubt if Dump gave a thought to "beautiful" statues, Confederate or otherwise, before this. He'd likely not be able to tell anyone what or where they are. It's just another dog whistle to make the mouth breathers happy.

[Egnever]

43. Right from the guy looking for ways to sell the national parks

[IronLionZion]

46. He wants losers to have participation trophies

Be sad

[paleotn]

47. Ok. That's it

Just go ahead and wear the Nazi uniform, 45. We all know he wants to. Just f'ing do it.

[Richard D]

48. Such an asshole. (eom)

[Blue Owl]

51. A real S.O.B. story

n/t

[3catwoman3]

54. Is he...

a) terminally tone deaf?
b) pathologically determined to do exactly the opposite of whatever would be the right thing to do?
c) just fucking nuts?
d) just fucking stupid?

All of the above?

He is soooooooooooooooooo astonishingly incompetent in every possible way.

[gilligan]

55. Sad

He's sad over a statue.
But the World is sad because he's the President of the United States.
So sad.

[SunSeeker]

57. There is nothing "beautiful" about the ugliness these statues represent.

[MountCleaners]

62. Since when is Trump a preservationist?

The following is a statement from National Trust for Historic Preservation president and CEO Stephanie Meeks in response to the Trump Administration’s executive order directing the Interior Department to review national monument designations made under the Antiquities Act since January 1, 1996.

“This executive order is a troubling action that could undermine protections for many of our nation’s most significant cultural landscapes. Since its first use by President Theodore Roosevelt in 1906, Democratic and Republican presidents alike have used the Antiquities Act more than 150 times to designate iconic American places from the Statue of Liberty to Devils Tower to the Grand Canyon.

https://savingplaces.org/press-center/media-resources/nations-significant-cultural-landscapes-undermined-by-troubling-executive-action#.WZYLH1GGPIU

Not to mention his regard for the national parks:

On July 10, the public comment window closed on the executive order Donald Trump signed on April 26 that stipulates Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke must review about 30 national monuments to determine if they should be rescinded, resized, or changed in any way. Since the Antiquities Act—which granted presidents the authority to reserve land and declare national monuments—was signed into law in June 1906, no national monument has been revoked. If Secretary Zinke uses Trump’s executive order to do so, it would signal the National Parks System is in unprecedented peril. Reuters reported that Trump’s executive order is part of a push to open areas around national monuments to drilling, mining and development under the false pretense that these protected lands were initially reserved in a dubious “federal land grab.” Land developers and special interests have historically relied on similar claims to obstruct the creation of National Parks.

http://observer.com/2017/07/donald-trump-ryan-zinke-national-park-system/

And then there is his hostility to environmentalism.

[BumRushDaShow]

63. 37 years ago, he bowled down the art deco statues adorning the old Bonwit Teller building

along with the rest of the building in order to build his crass and gaudy tower.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-save-confederate-statues-not-artwork-article-1.3419756



Art historians begged him to salvage them (along with grillwork) but to no avail.