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Danmel

(4,932 posts)
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:36 AM Aug 2017

Trump Says Military Is Locked and Loaded, Should North Korea Act Unwisely

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Trump Says Military Is ‘Locked and Loaded, Should North Korea Act Unwisely’

United States A-10 planes lined up for take off on Thursday from Osan Air Base in Pyeongtaek, South Korea.
YONHAP / REUTERS
By PETER BAKER
AUGUST 11, 2017
President Trump issued yet another provocative warning of military action against North Korea on Friday, the third time in a week that he has suggested he was ready to strike the small, isolated Asian country that has been developing nuclear weapons capable of reaching the United States.

In an early-morning Twitter post, Mr. Trump used language to suggest that military forces were on the edge of action against the government of Kim Jong-un, which has demonstrated rapid progress in its nuclear program in recent months and threatened to launch missiles toward the American territory of Guam in response to the president’s earlier warning.




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On Twitter, no less. Where is General Kelly???


What will it take for Republicans to say enough??
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Trump Says Military Is Locked and Loaded, Should North Korea Act Unwisely (Original Post) Danmel Aug 2017 OP
Trump is now acting just like Kim wants him to act. Botany Aug 2017 #1
Seoul has about 10-11 million. pangaia Aug 2017 #5
From wiki Botany Aug 2017 #10
HA HA.. I had to exert great sel-controul abnout Soul.. pangaia Aug 2017 #17
I don't think that means what he thinks it means C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #2
Inconceivable Zoonart Aug 2017 #14
no we are not locked and loaded..generals dont even have a theater planned. samnsara Aug 2017 #3
Bastard railed Maxheader Aug 2017 #4
While I cant stand Trump, showing some strength is required at times lancelyons Aug 2017 #6
The whole world knows the U.S. BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #18
Now I think the country is being set up for a "We were this close, but...Trump was able to save us" Freethinker65 Aug 2017 #7
exactly what I'm thinking.... dhill926 Aug 2017 #20
Yeah, But That's RobinA Aug 2017 #21
LIHOP. MIHOP. sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #25
OMG MountainMama Aug 2017 #30
That's what the previous poster offered. sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #33
Son of a bitch MountainMama Aug 2017 #34
At this point in 'bizarro world', I suppose anything is a valid explanation. sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #35
I hate it when old right-wingnut white men get war horny. Crowman2009 Aug 2017 #8
War horny is a perfect term. 3catwoman3 Aug 2017 #36
Please S. T. F. U. ! underpants Aug 2017 #9
My SIL is stationed in SK jimmil Aug 2017 #11
Unhinged bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #12
Leaker in Chief leaks military plans. truthisfreedom Aug 2017 #13
Another cowboy paraphrase peacebuzzard Aug 2017 #15
It is a military phrase. braddy Aug 2017 #19
Correction accepted. Perhaps it is an off the cuff, a quip, peacebuzzard Aug 2017 #22
When (if??) this situation is solved through diplomacy, I'm sure that he will claim that it was his Pendrench Aug 2017 #16
"Locked and loaded." Tactical Peek Aug 2017 #23
When referring to firearms, 'Locked' means an ammo magazine is inserted securely in Aristus Aug 2017 #24
Loaded means loaded, locked means the safety is on, but can come off Not Ruth Aug 2017 #26
No. I'm sorry. The definition I posted is the correct one. Aristus Aug 2017 #27
Ok Not Ruth Aug 2017 #28
The training sergeants taught us, when loading, Tactical Peek Aug 2017 #29
When I was in training, we kept the bolt of our M-16's forward, seated on the chamber, Aristus Aug 2017 #31
He is truly a DICK acting like this is some kind of Tom Cruise movie chelsea0011 Aug 2017 #32

Botany

(70,627 posts)
1. Trump is now acting just like Kim wants him to act.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:39 AM
Aug 2017

"Locked and Loaded."

The Seoul, S. Korea metro area has 25 million people and it is about 30 miles from the border and it would
be taken off the map if Trump goes after N. Korea.

BTW N. Korea has the bomb and its missile program because w bush stopped talking to
them even though they begged to keep talking but "little boots" aka w did his axis of
evil crap.


http://www.newsweek.com/ex-gop-senator-trump-sick-mind-congress-649004

EX-GOP SENATOR CALLS TRUMP 'SICK OF MIND' AND ASKS CONGRESS TO DUMP HIM

"Donald Trump is seriously sick. He is dangerous," read Humphrey’s letter, which he shared with news station WMUR on Wednesday.

"As a citizen, former U.S. senator, and twelve-year member of the Armed Services Committee, I urge you to act [at] once. Donald Trump should be relieved of the powers of the presidency at the earliest date,” the open letter from the former New Hampshire lawmaker added.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. Seoul has about 10-11 million.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:53 AM
Aug 2017

And even adding in Incheon and Bucheon, it is not anywhere near 25 million.

But I'm being picky, aren't I.

And I have friends in all those cities and others...

Botany

(70,627 posts)
10. From wiki
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:12 AM
Aug 2017

Population (2016)
• Metro[1] 25,514,000

BTW thanx for not pointing out I misspelled Seoul

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul_Capital_Area

Red: Seoul, Violet: Incheon, Green: Gyeonggi-do, Blue: other commuter areas

C_U_L8R

(45,029 posts)
2. I don't think that means what he thinks it means
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:41 AM
Aug 2017

Trump's just blindly grasping at backwards cliches.

Fire. Aim.

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)
4. Bastard railed
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:50 AM
Aug 2017

against the generals going in to retake Mosul...
during the campaign...
Said they were giving away the plan with
the media. Now it tells the N. Korean
leaders its plan...

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
6. While I cant stand Trump, showing some strength is required at times
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:57 AM
Aug 2017

While I cant stand Trump and this entire scenario is getting escalated and overblown to a large degree, you do have to be strong and at times talk strong. However Trump is not doing the necessary things to deescalate the situation.

- Nowhere are there any talks with our Allies in the event something happens and we need them. We are isolated.

BumRushDaShow

(129,793 posts)
18. The whole world knows the U.S.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:44 AM
Aug 2017

has over 5000 "active" nukes and some 800 military bases all around the world. They know we are fighting 2 "hot wars" and are engaged in several other countries with military.

WTF more "tough talk" is needed and who would want a money-laundering criminal who doesn't give a shit about repercussions or who probably couldn't point out where North Korea is on a map, spouting that "tough talk"?

Freethinker65

(10,083 posts)
7. Now I think the country is being set up for a "We were this close, but...Trump was able to save us"
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:58 AM
Aug 2017

Bullshit moment.

Trump will conveniently neglect to mention he had a large part in creating and escalating the potential disaster he, alone, was able to unlimately avoid by his shrewd prowess and "great brain". He will bask in the glory of his created alternative history and enough of his followers will cling to him for his all-knowing guidance and protection as he, Trump, continues to rob the country of its resources, starve the government, and spend leisure time at his resort properties surrounded by sycophants.

The GOP will continue to let it happen.

RobinA

(9,902 posts)
21. Yeah, But That's
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:14 AM
Aug 2017

a known business gambit that frankly, in my observation, often pays off. Create a mess, or allow one to happen, and than accept kudos for heroically cleaning it up. Although I've never seen it done on a high level, but maybe that's because I've never worked at a high level. I worked with a guy who was famous among his peers for doing this. He was a star because just as a situation was getting totally out of control he would step in with maximum resignation as to his fate and do tons of work to clean it up. Higher ups never noticed that the mess could have been completely avoided if he had made a few phone calls before it was ever a mess.

Yep, in business there's no heroics in avoiding problems, just in cleaning them up.

sprinkleeninow

(20,268 posts)
25. LIHOP. MIHOP.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 03:06 PM
Aug 2017

CAMOP. 'Create a mess on purpose.'
Yeah, that's the ticket.

Get thee behind us, and NOW!

sprinkleeninow

(20,268 posts)
33. That's what the previous poster offered.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 04:42 PM
Aug 2017

Makes sense. A possible explanation. In addition to covering his engorged rear end, vis a vis, 'Mueller Time'.

Not nice coming from a 'girl' and a practicing 'Christian' to boot. And, I do not highly care.

He elicits that and much more. I have loathing for his every word and deed.

Crowman2009

(2,505 posts)
8. I hate it when old right-wingnut white men get war horny.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:02 AM
Aug 2017

It easy for them to say that when they won't be doing the actual fighting, and they will be dead by the time the next war occurs.

3catwoman3

(24,083 posts)
36. War horny is a perfect term.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 01:31 AM
Aug 2017

Those who want to declare war should have to duke it out themselves, one on one, in a boxing ring. Leave everyone else the hell out of it.

jimmil

(629 posts)
11. My SIL is stationed in SK
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:12 AM
Aug 2017

He flies the F-16 and says there is no big buildup going on, civilian life is normal, really nothing unusual going on. He is rotating out in two weeks and after some training headed for Germany.

peacebuzzard

(5,184 posts)
22. Correction accepted. Perhaps it is an off the cuff, a quip,
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:16 AM
Aug 2017

Easy to understand, lingo targeted, sure to delight the audience.
That impressive movie "Full Metal Jacket", comes to mind at this point.

Pendrench

(1,359 posts)
16. When (if??) this situation is solved through diplomacy, I'm sure that he will claim that it was his
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:25 AM
Aug 2017

"toughness" that was responsible...which (in turn) will just strengthen his resolve to employ more unhinged rhetoric and behavior.

Tim

Tactical Peek

(1,212 posts)
23. "Locked and loaded."
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:40 PM
Aug 2017



Spoken by a man who for twenty years was unable to locate a recruiting sergeant in the Tri-State Area.


(And if one is locked and loaded when breaching the door, one is at a distinct disadvantage because 'locked' means just what it says, so advantage bad guy.)

Aristus

(66,487 posts)
24. When referring to firearms, 'Locked' means an ammo magazine is inserted securely in
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:04 PM
Aug 2017

the magazine well. 'Loaded' means a round is in the chamber, ready to fire.

Aristus

(66,487 posts)
27. No. I'm sorry. The definition I posted is the correct one.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 03:34 PM
Aug 2017

Otherwise, my Basic Training instructors for the Basic Rifle Marksmanship course have a lot of explaining to do.

Lock a magazine into the ammunition magazine well, load a round into the chamber, and rotate the selector lever from 'Safe' to 'Fire', were all three different steps in the prepare-to-fire checklist.

Tactical Peek

(1,212 posts)
29. The training sergeants taught us, when loading,
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 03:57 PM
Aug 2017

(M-14/M-16) to pull the operating rod handle all the way back until it engaged the bolt lock - this is the 'lock' part of the phrase imho - and then to insert and seat the magazine in the well, which is the 'load' part (they kept the training simple for we of simple mind). But at that point one can not yet fire the weapon since the bolt is still locked (hence my original remark), at least I don't think you can, having never tried it - not until pulling the operating rod handle all the way back and fully releasing it to strip and chamber a round, and maybe sometimes smack that handle with the heel of your hand to insure it seated. At least when the NCOs said 'Lock and load', that's what we all thought they meant and what we did.



Aristus

(66,487 posts)
31. When I was in training, we kept the bolt of our M-16's forward, seated on the chamber,
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 04:03 PM
Aug 2017

while loading. After locking the magazine into the ammo well, on the order 'load' we pulled the charging handle and released it, causing the bolt to shoot forward and load a round into the chamber.

I'm sure the M-14 was much different, but after the M-16 fires the last round in the magazine, the bolt is automatically locked to the rear, leaving an open chamber for either reloading, or for weapons inspection. Upon reloading a new magazine, one only had to press the loading lever on the side of the rifle to move the bolt forward again, re-loading the chamber.

It's a tribute to the thoroughness of the rifle training that I'm able to remember so much after thirty years.

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