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highplainsdem

(49,091 posts)
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 09:31 AM Aug 2017

'This deal will make me look terrible': Full transcripts of Trump's calls with Mexico and Australia

Source: WP

The Washington Post has obtained transcripts of two conversations President Trump had with foreign leaders: one with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and another with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

The transcripts were prepared by the White House but have not been released. The Post is publishing reproductions rather than original documents in order to protect sources. The reproductions below also include minor spelling and grammatical mistakes that appeared in the documents.

-snip-

Now getting back to the taxes for second, I have been given as President tremendous taxation powers for trade and for other reasons – far greater than anybody understands. The powers of taxation are tremendous for the President of the United States and if you study that you will see what I mean. That is why I did not want to have the meeting, I just wanted to tax the border. With all that being said, I would love if you want to reinstitute the meetings between Luis and a staff that I will assemble in the United States. Our Secretary of Commerce, Mr. Ross, will be approved very soon and we have a great team of people – Gary Cohen and lots of others – we have lots of great talent. And talent that wants things to happen. They are dealmakers, they are not obstructionist. We have some of them, but so do you of course. With that being said, if you would like to try and work a deal, that is okay. But if we cannot work a deal, I want to tell you we are going to put a very substantial tax on the border coming into the United States because, honestly, we will not want your products unless your products are going to be taxed. I do not want the products and lesser tax. And what that will mean is factories and plants will start to be built in the United States because the taxes will be too high in Mexico. I do not want to do that if we can work out a deal, so Jared Kushner and Luis can have the teams work out the deal. The only thing I will ask you though is on the wall, you and I both have a political problem. My people stand up and say, “Mexico will pay for the wall” and your people probably say something in a similar but slightly different language. But the fact is we are both in a little bit of a political bind because I have to have Mexico pay for the wall – I have to. I have been talking about it for a two year period, and the reason I say they are going to pay for the wall is because Mexico has made a fortune out of the stupidity of U.S. trade representatives. They are beating us at trade and they are beating us at the border, and they are killing us with drugs. Now I know you are not involved with that, but regardless of who is making all the money, billions and billions and billions – some people say more – is being made on drug trafficking that is coming through Mexico. Some people say that the business of drug trafficking is bigger than the business of taking our factory jobs. So what I would like to recommend is – if we are going to have continued dialogue – we will work out the wall. They are going to say, “who is going to pay for the wall, Mr. President?” to both of us, and we should both say, “we will work it out.” It will work out in the formula somehow. As opposed to you saying, “we will not pay” and me saying, “we will not pay.”

Because you and I are both at a point now where we are both saying we are not to pay for the wall. From a political standpoint, that is what we will say. We cannot say that anymore because if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that. I am willing to say that we will work it out, but that means it will come out in the wash and that is okay. But you cannot say anymore that the United States is going to pay for the wall. I am just going to say that we are working it out. Believe it or not, this is the least important thing that we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important talk about. But in terms of dollars – or pesos – it is the least important thing. I know how to build very inexpensively, so it will be much lower than these numbers I am being presented with, and it will be a better wall and it will look nice. And it will do the job.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/



This IS breaking news, even though these calls took place months ago, because this is the first time we've seen the full transscripts.

Look at the last two paragraphs above, from Trump's conversation with the president of Mexico. Notice how much is just about Trump's political concerns about his own image.
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'This deal will make me look terrible': Full transcripts of Trump's calls with Mexico and Australia (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2017 OP
Doesn't take a deal to make trump look terrible. Nt joeybee12 Aug 2017 #1
Blithering word salad jpak Aug 2017 #2
Can you imagine what Enrique Pea Nieto was thinking? Cosmocat Aug 2017 #11
Was that before or after the projectile vomiting? Mr. Evil Aug 2017 #48
Word salad,I agree.No "I'm the greatest deal maker" language in his idiotic statements-just bullying iluvtennis Aug 2017 #15
Well to be fair, lark Aug 2017 #47
Oh god! It's exactly like the Sport of the Deal: Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2017 #3
Holy crap! yallerdawg Aug 2017 #25
Sweet baby Jesus. progressoid Aug 2017 #26
I JUST FIGURED IT OUT !!!!!!!!! pangaia Aug 2017 #4
Trump sounds like a very immature adolescent COLGATE4 Aug 2017 #5
Just like the Russia scandal SCVDem Aug 2017 #6
OMG, so embarrassing. nt DLevine Aug 2017 #7
Much of the world must be feeling a mix of pity, disbelief and anger that the US elected Trump. highplainsdem Aug 2017 #63
I'm in Germany right now a la izquierda Aug 2017 #65
Rick Wilson's reaction is succinct: "Good God." highplainsdem Aug 2017 #8
We're bringing in tons of talent, the best talent... Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #9
trump shows signs of an expressive language disorder Deb Aug 2017 #10
So....Rense wasn't the leaker underpants Aug 2017 #12
I reckon he just had copies of these saved muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #31
Across the board tech at the Fed level is horrible underpants Aug 2017 #33
This is how dim they are: dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #62
OMG! Begging the Mexican president to help cover his big campaign lie to the dumpsters. mobeau69 Aug 2017 #13
Not only that-- janx Aug 2017 #18
please, please don't tell 'em that you're not payin' - pleeeeese. nt AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2017 #21
he's a pathetic shitty used car salesman Kali Aug 2017 #14
Reminds of Macy's role in Fargo lunasun Aug 2017 #34
nailed it.... dhill926 Aug 2017 #39
"It is you and I against the world, Enrique, do not forget." janx Aug 2017 #16
Me either. He's a complete loon. mobeau69 Aug 2017 #19
I can't stop laughing! mobeau69 Aug 2017 #22
I know, I know-- janx Aug 2017 #54
Wtff?? MFM008 Aug 2017 #17
So Kelly comes in and the faucet is no longer leaking but is open full blast! BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #20
Glenn Thrush: Hey, GOP base: DT talks about the Wall a lot differently when he thinks u can't hear highplainsdem Aug 2017 #23
" I know how to build very inexpensively, so it will be much lower than these numbers ... DK504 Aug 2017 #24
Ha! I know. That was my first thought. Dave Starsky Aug 2017 #38
" people probably say something in a similar but slightly different language" uppityperson Aug 2017 #27
Whatever the hell does... 3catwoman3 Aug 2017 #58
Day after day... syringis Aug 2017 #28
Vainglorious C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #29
And here's your drinking-buddy, using exactly the same argument why you should pay for his tab: DetlefK Aug 2017 #30
Trump's ideal of 'a deal' is he gets what he wants and to hell with the other guy. procon Aug 2017 #32
(to the interpreter, about Pena Nieto): "he speaks better English than me" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #35
This is half of the problem. potone Aug 2017 #61
What a blithering fool (unfortunately very much like many that voted him into office) Freethinker65 Aug 2017 #36
Fact is only Trump is in a political bind b/c he promised something cannot deliver. Justice Aug 2017 #37
Key point throughout: It is all about him to both leaders. riversedge Aug 2017 #40
So this shit is the "Art of the Deal"???? LOL LOL hamsterjill Aug 2017 #41
A question: Based on these interviews alone and considering Trump's years of "tremendous Doodley Aug 2017 #42
Enrique Pea Nieto speaks better English than Trump NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #43
OMG..he's talking as if it's a business deal... dreamland Aug 2017 #44
As if there was any doubt that Trump is a nutcase. Hieronymus Aug 2017 #45
Just imagine Timmygoat Aug 2017 #46
Its all just a 5 dimensional chess game LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #49
Trump won New Hampshire? Nasruddin Aug 2017 #50
Am I missing something here? He states the following.... chowder66 Aug 2017 #51
He is in xxqqqzme Aug 2017 #52
Further proof J_William_Ryan Aug 2017 #53
These transcripts are humiliating Julian Englis Aug 2017 #55
"a man in my position can't afford to be made to look ridiculous" JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2017 #56
Reading the full transcripts of both calls, spiderpig Aug 2017 #57
Here's an idea. Seeing as he now wants a transparent... 3catwoman3 Aug 2017 #59
Some people say tavernier Aug 2017 #60
I will never get over this moronic POS is sitting in the White House obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #64
LOL Sparkly Aug 2017 #66
This is why other countries Leaders now ignore trump, even his party Republicans ignore him. Sunlei Aug 2017 #67

iluvtennis

(19,897 posts)
15. Word salad,I agree.No "I'm the greatest deal maker" language in his idiotic statements-just bullying
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:08 AM
Aug 2017

lark

(23,186 posts)
47. Well to be fair,
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:29 PM
Aug 2017

there's a whole lot of whining coming from the orange assface in that conversation, not just bullying and threatening.

progressoid

(50,011 posts)
26. Sweet baby Jesus.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:31 AM
Aug 2017

I've never watched that show. That video confirms my suspicion that the show is more of a documentary than satire.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
6. Just like the Russia scandal
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 09:45 AM
Aug 2017

Here's Dump setting up an attempt at collusion to deceive not just Americans, but Mexicans as well.

There is no honesty in this sorry excuse for an American president!

Resist! Remove! Peace!

a la izquierda

(11,802 posts)
65. I'm in Germany right now
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:00 AM
Aug 2017

at an institute that is very multi-national in terms of folks' backgrounds. I can tell you, no one feels any pity. Disbelief, yes for sure. But no pity. Mind you, we're all academics, and there are many who study Latin America (myself included). We're reaping what we've sown is the attitude here.
FWIW, the Germans mock him whenever they can. I'll try and take some photos and post them one of these days. The billboards are funny.

Docreed2003

(16,890 posts)
9. We're bringing in tons of talent, the best talent...
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 09:47 AM
Aug 2017

OMG....we really do have a moron in the Oval Office. I guess I naively hoped that his public persona was at least a little bit of an exaggeration for show, but nope...he's a fucktard, a damn imbicile. No wonder other world leaders can't stand to be around him.

Deb

(3,742 posts)
10. trump shows signs of an expressive language disorder
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 09:52 AM
Aug 2017

a shame (for him) that it was not caught early in life. I thought perhaps it was a gimmick. OK, compassion over now.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,405 posts)
31. I reckon he just had copies of these saved
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:48 AM
Aug 2017

Not sure what computer security is like in the Trump White House, but I reckon it would have been pretty bad at the start if they couldn't figure out where the light switches were. So if I were a Chief of Staff who'd hardly ever get challenged or investigated, I'd be copying all the embarrassing stuff and getting it somewhere I can access it later if needed.

underpants

(182,992 posts)
33. Across the board tech at the Fed level is horrible
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:49 AM
Aug 2017

Yes the light switches. Not exactly the brightest bunch.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
62. This is how dim they are:
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 03:24 PM
Aug 2017

Remember that NO one in the WH reserved any hotel accommodations for his G-20 meeting?

turns out, that is the job of a dept. which Trump has not filled.
Yep...no one to do it, and no one in his Gang Who Can't Shoot Straight even thought about it, or even had the brains to ask where they would be staying.

Those of us who have had hotel stays as part of our job knows to at least LOOK at that information.

mobeau69

(11,167 posts)
13. OMG! Begging the Mexican president to help cover his big campaign lie to the dumpsters.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:05 AM
Aug 2017

Bahahahahahahahahaha!

DK504

(3,847 posts)
24. " I know how to build very inexpensively, so it will be much lower than these numbers ...
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:27 AM
Aug 2017

... I am being presented with ..."

Yeah Donnie Two Scoops, we alllll know you know how to build shitty "buildings" they are called slums and you don't pay your employees.

" ...it will be a better wall and it will look nice."

Seriously? Will it look lie you wanna be early Russian Oligarch or post modern Oligarch?

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
38. Ha! I know. That was my first thought.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:01 AM
Aug 2017

We all know about how you cut corners in your crappy buildings, Donald, but thanks for owning up to it. It's long past time that we have the fire department check to see if the sprinkler heads in your "resorts" are actually attached to anything.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
30. And here's your drinking-buddy, using exactly the same argument why you should pay for his tab:
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:42 AM
Aug 2017
I know, you don't want to pay for this, but how about if we share the bill? How about you stop telling everybody that you won't pay for my tab and instead we split the bill and BOTH pay for my tab? Yeah, I promised to get hammered, but it won't even cost that much! Promise!

Let's not even talk about money anymore. Life is not about money! Just remember to pay for half of my bill.

procon

(15,805 posts)
32. Trump's ideal of 'a deal' is he gets what he wants and to hell with the other guy.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:49 AM
Aug 2017

What was he offering to Mexico? Nothing, he made no attempt to sweeten the pot and give something of equivalent value to the Mexican President in exchange. He threatened. He whined. He pleaded. And like a petty thug, he tried to leverage Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, to put the squeeze on him and intimidate him with extortion.

Trump doesn't care about the country, and he'd screw over his base in a minute if it glossed his fragile ego and buffed up his celebrity image.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,405 posts)
35. (to the interpreter, about Pena Nieto): "he speaks better English than me"
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:56 AM
Aug 2017

At last, a small bit of self-awareness.

potone

(1,701 posts)
61. This is half of the problem.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 03:18 PM
Aug 2017

Any foreign leader needs an interpreter to translate Trump's word salad into English before translating into another language. I don't think that skill is taught anywhere.

Justice

(7,188 posts)
37. Fact is only Trump is in a political bind b/c he promised something cannot deliver.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:01 AM
Aug 2017


This is the same kind of talk from GOP on healthcare. They say, for 7 years, we said we were going to repeal and replace. We have to do it because we've been saying we would do it. How is that even logical?

Now Trump's argument to Mexico to get them to agree to pay for the wall is they have to because Trump talked about it for two years.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
41. So this shit is the "Art of the Deal"???? LOL LOL
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:39 AM
Aug 2017

You beg your adversary not to make you look bad? Oh, the entertainment value!!!

It would be funny if it weren't so sad that we are all having to live the nightmare.

Doodley

(9,164 posts)
42. A question: Based on these interviews alone and considering Trump's years of "tremendous
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:40 AM
Aug 2017

dealmaking," that should mean he is an expert at talking to executives, what would you say his IQ is? I would think around 75.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
43. Enrique Pea Nieto speaks better English than Trump
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:06 PM
Aug 2017

Per Trump himself:

And interpreter, I think Enrique understands everything I said, unless you, Enrique, feel you want an interpretation for this, please continue to go forward, is that okay?

PEÑA NIETO
Yes, I will be okay.

TRUMP
Because I have been with him – he speaks better English than me – so we will just go on.


And:
You know, we should put that in the statement. Your words are so beautiful. Those are beautiful words and I do not think I can speak that beautifully, okay? It would be great to put those words at the end of the statement. Really nice though.



For once, Trump is right. Almost anyone with a modicum of English speaks it better than the so-called president.

dreamland

(964 posts)
44. OMG..he's talking as if it's a business deal...
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:08 PM
Aug 2017

...for one of his buildings. You can actually substitute tower for wall and it's still the same. This is probably how he ran all his business dealings.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
46. Just imagine
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:22 PM
Aug 2017

How many poor kids could get healthcare and how many seniors could stay in nursing homes for the cost of that wall, he is taking the American people for suckers like the con man he always has been.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
49. Its all just a 5 dimensional chess game
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:30 PM
Aug 2017

As illustrated by his favorite cartoonist:





Garrison and other rabid Trump supporters really did have this image of him in their heads of a larger-that-life superman master deal maker. I wonder what Garrison is drawing these days.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
50. Trump won New Hampshire?
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:35 PM
Aug 2017

Why does he say in one of the transcripts that he won New Hampshire?

He sounds like he's making some kind of sense for a few lines and then lets slip some delusional bit like this.

chowder66

(9,098 posts)
51. Am I missing something here? He states the following....
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:41 PM
Aug 2017

"In Ohio, they are having rallies for Trump right now because Trump has taken a hard stance on Mexico. We lost a lot of factories in Ohio and Michigan and I won these states – some of these states have not been won in 38 years by a Republican and I won them very easily."


Does he mean counties when referring to "....have not won in 38 years by a Republican..."?

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
52. He is in
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:00 PM
Aug 2017

grifter mode all the time. It doesn't matter if he is off script/teleprompter at a 'rally' or on the phone with another country's leader. He doesn't know how to shut up.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
55. These transcripts are humiliating
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 02:12 PM
Aug 2017

Humiliating to Trump as they reveal him to be a huge jerk.
Humiliating to the US as the transcripts reveal just what a huge jerk the US has as a President.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
57. Reading the full transcripts of both calls,
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 02:47 PM
Aug 2017

One thing that jumped out was Trump addressing "Enrique" and "Malcolm" while they each consistently responded with "Mr. President".

Of course, Trump's complete unawareness of protocol is the least of our worries these days.

3catwoman3

(24,092 posts)
59. Here's an idea. Seeing as he now wants a transparent...
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 03:15 PM
Aug 2017

...wall, why not take it a step further and say it is invisible? Tell his supporters that a wonderful new and secret technology has been used to build this invisible wall, and it is in place but no one can see it.

Those who believe there is a child sex slave colony on Mars would have no trouble believing this.

tavernier

(12,412 posts)
60. Some people say
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 03:15 PM
Aug 2017

You're a Looney Toon!!!

In fact, most ppl say that these days.

(I can hear the music now... bedee bedee bedee, That's All Folks!)

Sparkly

(24,162 posts)
66. LOL
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:14 AM
Aug 2017
My people stand up and say, “Mexico will pay for the wall” and your people probably say something in a similar but slightly different language.


Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
67. This is why other countries Leaders now ignore trump, even his party Republicans ignore him.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:32 AM
Aug 2017

patsy man!

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