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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:13 PM Jul 2017

Kushner: Trump campaign too disorganized to collude with Russia

Source: The Hill

White House senior adviser and President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner reportedly dismissed on Monday accusations that Trump’s presidential campaign colluded with Russia, saying the team was too disorganized for such a conspiracy.

In off-the-record remarks to Capitol Hill interns, as reported by Foreign Policy, Kushner said that the Trump campaign struggled to stay in touch with its own representatives across the country.

“They thought we colluded, but we couldn’t even collude with our local offices,” Kushner said, according to notes on the speech.

Kushner also addressed the ongoing special counsel investigation into potential ties between Trump and Russia led by Robert Mueller.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/344699-kushner-trump-campaign-too-unorganized-to-collude-with-russia-report



Here's a link to the original story:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/31/kusher-to-interns-trump-team-too-disorganized-to-collude-with-russia/
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Kushner: Trump campaign too disorganized to collude with Russia (Original Post) Julian Englis Jul 2017 OP
Best faux excuse yet, Kush!! F'kn genius!!Niiiiice work!! And who wouldn't believe yaz?!? nt Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #1
So sayeth Jared who lied about meetings with Russians. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #2
So his excuse for why it could not happen is that they are to incompetent? Bullshit. cstanleytech Jul 2017 #3
They're new at this jpak Jul 2017 #9
Kushner: "Trump is too much of a fuсkup to point to Russia on a map correctly." Snake Plissken Jul 2017 #4
My criminal law professor told us TomSlick Jul 2017 #5
I have a friend who is a defense attorney Phoenix61 Jul 2017 #15
Well that settles it then, doesn't it???? Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #6
LOLOL!!!!! icymist Jul 2017 #7
Lying sack of shit jpak Jul 2017 #8
Finally something that sounds plausible. Turbineguy Jul 2017 #10
Yeah, but cannabis_flower Jul 2017 #11
You can be incompetant and evil at the same time. 6000eliot Jul 2017 #12
"Struggled to stay in touch" destroyed as many records as possible bettyellen Jul 2017 #13
Just because you're Keystone Cops doesn't make you any less cops. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #14
Oh, GMAFB. GoCubsGo Jul 2017 #16
aka "We totally would have colluded if we weren't all dumb as a bag of hammers" flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #17
So it's the three stooges we're too stoopid to be traitors defense. ananda Jul 2017 #18
Guess what? Even if you guys knew JACK about what Putin was doing for you ... mr_lebowski Jul 2017 #19
Nailed it FakeNoose Jul 2017 #21
But they all knew to hide and lie about all of their contacts with Russians wishstar Jul 2017 #20
LOL! Rob Reiner: icymist Jul 2017 #22
And a reply! icymist Jul 2017 #23
Russia and the KGOP are very organized neohippie Aug 2017 #24

TomSlick

(11,134 posts)
5. My criminal law professor told us
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:32 PM
Jul 2017

no one ever went to jail for committing a crime. They went to jail for being stupid.

Phoenix61

(17,025 posts)
15. I have a friend who is a defense attorney
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:44 PM
Jul 2017

He told me he tells his clients the problem isn't when you commit one crime, it's when you commit two like driving under the influence with an expired tag, getting in a bar fight with meth in your pocket... he had a whole list. He said it was always the double whammy that nailed folks. But yeah, stupid pretty much sums it up.

Docreed2003

(16,900 posts)
6. Well that settles it then, doesn't it????
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:33 PM
Jul 2017

They were too fucking dumb to collude with Russia...move along, move along....


Well then how the hell did you win the election, because every report, partisan and nonpartisan, spoke about how shitty the Trump ground game was leading up to the vote!!!!

Turbineguy

(37,412 posts)
10. Finally something that sounds plausible.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:37 PM
Jul 2017

The Trump family is just too fucked up to be working with the Rooski's.

Dude, the people you see driving cars in the Youtube videos don't run the fucking country.

Solly Mack

(90,800 posts)
14. Just because you're Keystone Cops doesn't make you any less cops.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:44 PM
Jul 2017
“Keystone Cops”


To be a “Keystone Cop” is an expression still regularly applied to an individual or a group that appears extremely incompetent while exhibiting an uncommon amount of energy in the pursuit of failure. In other words: ineffectiveness on steroids, chaos on wheels.

GoCubsGo

(32,100 posts)
16. Oh, GMAFB.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:48 PM
Jul 2017

They really do think we are all stupid.

Perhaps you can learn some organizational skills in prison, you treasonous, little shitstain.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
17. aka "We totally would have colluded if we weren't all dumb as a bag of hammers"
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 10:06 PM
Jul 2017

even if you buy this latest excuse, it still reeks of intent. As does lil Donnie's "if it's what you say, I love it" statement.

Remember people, one doesn't have to succeed at a crime, only intend to commit it. Ask any wannabe drug dealer with a pocketful of baby powder who got 20-to-life. Or the hitman who got arrested on the way to do the deed.

Intent is as good as success, and from what Jarhead says, sounds pretty intentional; especially since they didn't report it like they did the email with the supposed dirt on trump later on.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
19. Guess what? Even if you guys knew JACK about what Putin was doing for you ...
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jul 2017

If ANY of you suggested to ANY Russian agent remotely close to Pootie-Poot that if he WERE to ... help you guys out ... 'favors' from the Trump Admin would be forthcoming (if he won, of course), then you COLLUDED.

And what about that Server in Trump Tower, talking to Alfa Bank all the time? Sounds to me like Cambridge was providing the Bank with info on how to help you guys out best, what fake news ads to put up on who's facebook account, and probably paying the Facebook fees for you as well. And the server coordinating that ... was in POTUS's own BUILDING?

So, yeah ... you can play dumb ... but Mueller ain't that dumb. And you don't have to have done MUCH colluding ... pretty much any provable collusion means you're going down, fellas.

And lets not even start on yours and Trumps shady business dealings that are going to get swept up in this investigation, all the dirty money laundering, no-interest unpaid-back loans from prominent Russians, etc.

FakeNoose

(32,883 posts)
21. Nailed it
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 10:31 PM
Jul 2017

Pootie got his quid pro quo's (more than one) so there had to be collusion.
Jared can say whatever he wants, and nobody's listening any more.



wishstar

(5,272 posts)
20. But they all knew to hide and lie about all of their contacts with Russians
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 10:17 PM
Jul 2017

and Trump and all of the spokespeople all lied claiming no Russian contacts. Why all the lying and covering up unless they ALL knew there was improper collusion.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
24. Russia and the KGOP are very organized
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 09:17 AM
Aug 2017

This is organized crime, that goes back decades

That's why you see people like Henry Kissenger, Paul Manafort Roger Stone, Jack Abramoff, KellyAnn Conway, involved in Trump's campaign the Russians have been funneling money both legally and illegally into our politics for a long long time.

There is more going on here than just the Trump Campaign colluding with Russia it's a power play by the wealthiest oligarchs in the world designed to keep their hands on the lever of power in the world.

They are gaming the system using their wealth to influence our democracy and foreign policy for more profit, trying to erode the liberal and democratic institutions that get in the way of allowing them to do whatever maximizes profit over people, that's why you see human rights being removed as a pillar of our State Department policy, so that frees up business interests to rise to the top of what drives US policy now.

This story is so much more than just the Trump Campaign even if they are at the center of the smoke that surrounds this controversy they didn't start the fire.


http://www.truth-out.org/archive/item/60949-abramoff-ties-to-russians-probed


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/27/1647610/-99-coincidences-connecting-Trump-and-Putin

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republicans-russia-problems-may-run-deeper-than-donald_us_5917f7dee4b00ccaae9ea3d2

http://www.bluedotdaily.com/yes-trumps-russian-scandal-is-real-it-all-traces-back-to-one-guy/



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