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factfinder_77

(841 posts)
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:52 AM May 2017

Trump money laundering in the Netherlands: Paper trail could be the end

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Source: dutchreview.com

You see, Trump used to be a “successful” businessman – given you ignore all the bankruptcies and lawsuits – and did many investments through a company called Bayrock. Guess where this Pokémon-sounding investment company is headquartered? Tax Haven Holland!
Oh, and ZEMBLA has all the little receipts – it’s pure money laundering, by setting up in the Netherlands in 2007, it laundered $1,5 million dollars. And the company is in hot water already, the State of New York is doing investigations into their tax fraud, large scale tax fraud – and Donald is a key figure. According to attorney F. Oberlander – prosecuting on behalf of New York State – the maximum jail term could be as long as 30 years! But it doesn’t end there! There’s more! This was just the appetizer!

Read more: https://dutchreview.com/news/international-news/trump-money-laundering-in-the-netherlands/

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Trump money laundering in the Netherlands: Paper trail could be the end (Original Post) factfinder_77 May 2017 OP
Speaking of Zembla VigilantG May 2017 #1
Very interesting....... SergeStorms May 2017 #2
About ZEMBLA factfinder_77 May 2017 #3
Its probably because for most of us its an unknown website thus not a mainstream news agency cstanleytech May 2017 #6
Thanks for that. SergeStorms May 2017 #11
It's true and there is more ProudLib72 May 2017 #4
Thank you, ProudLib72. n/t Judi Lynn May 2017 #7
Wow, I'm salivating -- thanks ProudLib ATL Ebony May 2017 #13
Now this is sounding interesting. Kablooie May 2017 #5
Hate to break it to you but even if the Democrats regain control of the Senate in 2018 cstanleytech May 2017 #9
Technically with a House majority he could be impeached. Kablooie May 2017 #10
It would also make a Dem Speaker of the House . . . ATL Ebony May 2017 #14
Every investigation helps Warpy May 2017 #8
idle speculation nt msongs May 2017 #12
1.5M isn't much. zentrum May 2017 #15
Locking... DonViejo May 2017 #16

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
2. Very interesting.......
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:21 AM
May 2017

I'm not sure if this is a reputable source, I've never heard of it until now, but that means little. I'm unacquainted with many foreign news sources. I'd certainly LIKE IT to be true! Anything we can hang on the tRump crime family is music to my ears.

 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
3. About ZEMBLA
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:25 AM
May 2017

About ZEMBLA
ZEMBLA is a current affairs program by VARA broadcasting. The program tries to provide information to a wide audience by means of opinion forming investigative journalism.

ZEMBLA carries out in-depth research into events and developments in society and contributes to public opinion on these issues.

ZEMBLA wants to open up the debate and produces news, it wants to set things in motion and to bring about changes.

ZEMBLA was first screened in the autumn of 1995 and since then it has been assured of a permanent place within public broadcasting in the Netherlands.

ZEMBLA has made a program on nearly every social development and special events imaginable.

The program is broadcasted almost weekly on Wednesday evenings on NPO 2.

cstanleytech

(26,332 posts)
6. Its probably because for most of us its an unknown website thus not a mainstream news agency
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:30 AM
May 2017

but that aside it is an opinion piece over what they believe Trump did thus you might want consider moving it over to General since opinion and analysis pieces arent allowed in LBN.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
11. Thanks for that.
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:21 AM
May 2017

I feel a little better now that you've explained it so well.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. It's true and there is more
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:26 AM
May 2017

This is from Dailykos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/3/1658665/-Netherlands-Media-Hot-on-Trail-of-Trump-s-Links-to-Money-Laundering

Now, my favorite part of this article is the response that ZEMBLA got from Bayrock. The company wanted to make it clear that the Dutch corporate construction was established on the advice of an external legal counsel. Now…. get ready…. that just happens to be the firm known as Bracewell & Giuliani. YES!!! Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, and part owner of the law firm at the time, is now linked to this scheme.

Judi Lynn

(160,644 posts)
7. Thank you, ProudLib72. n/t
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:36 AM
May 2017

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
13. Wow, I'm salivating -- thanks ProudLib
Fri May 12, 2017, 04:56 AM
May 2017

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
5. Now this is sounding interesting.
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:27 AM
May 2017

But what if the New York State finds Trump deep in the middle of a money laundering scheme?
They can indict him but do they have any power to enforce the indictment?
What if he ignores it and the Republican Congress joins him in ignoring it as they are certain to do?
Nobody can arrest him and physically he has the Secret Service to protect him.

I don't have faith that any criminality will be enough to bring him down as long as the Republicans surround and protect him.
Only if Democrats regain power in 2018 will any justice be served.

And to make things even scarier, Trump is now openly organizing a massive rigging of future elections, backed, of course, by the Republicans.

I still think our best hope is for the amazing incompetence in all areas at the top of government right now topples over onto itself.
Then the courts will be able to walk all over these gangsters.

cstanleytech

(26,332 posts)
9. Hate to break it to you but even if the Democrats regain control of the Senate in 2018
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:50 AM
May 2017

and won every single Senate seat thats up for grabs (which is doubtful) they wouldnt have anywhere near enough to impeach as there simply arent enough Repugnant held Senate seats up for grabs so they would need the Repugnants to get on board with impeachment still.
Thats not to say regaining the majority isnt important though because with enough seats they can blunt alot of what Trump wants to do plus they can maybe appoint an independent investigator to find the truth over what Russia was doing and with whom it was doing it with which is something the Repugnants are still stonewalling.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
10. Technically with a House majority he could be impeached.
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:15 AM
May 2017

But you're right.
The maximum Democratic Senate seats would be 57 and that's if they won every single Democratic and Republican race.
We'd need 67 votes to convict.

So we are absolutely stuck with an idiot, and possibly criminally convicted president for the full 4 years because that's what the Republicans want.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
14. It would also make a Dem Speaker of the House . . .
Fri May 12, 2017, 05:43 AM
May 2017

and if tRump is still around it's a good opportunity to have a Dem Pres when tRump/Pence is escorted out.

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
8. Every investigation helps
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:41 AM
May 2017

because eventually the pressure will build on this man-baby to the unbearable point and he'll skedaddle.

We can't count on impeachment. We know his party will continue to protect him.

msongs

(67,459 posts)
12. idle speculation nt
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:17 AM
May 2017

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. 1.5M isn't much.
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:17 AM
May 2017

Hardly seems worth the risk.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
16. Locking...
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:55 AM
May 2017

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