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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:15 PM Apr 2017

Erin Moran Relied on a Feeding Tube to Stay Alive During Final Days Battling Stage 4 Cancer

Source: MSN

Happy Days' Erin Moran was fed through a GI tube at home with her mother-in-law, according to the coroner's examination

Moran was receiving treatment for Stage 4 cancer, including a gastrointestinal tube in her throat to keep her alive during her final days, a law enforcement source tells PEOPLE.
The source, who asked to remain anonymous pending further details to be released by the Harrison County Sheriff's Dept., said the coroner found a gastrointestinal tube during the examination, as well as "ample" evidence that the actress succumbed to Stage 4 cancer. The type of cancer was not immediately clear.


"It was indicative when they did the autopsy that she was receiving medical care," the source tells PEOPLE. "There were no illicit substances or anything to suggest foul play."

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/happy-days-erin-moran-relied-on-a-feeding-tube-to-stay-alive-during-final-days-battling-stage-4-cancer-source/ar-BBAh7Ez?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp



So, the "stupid junkie, she dug her own grave" narrative was vicious, ignorant bullshit.

Erin Moran died clean.

Of cancer.
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Erin Moran Relied on a Feeding Tube to Stay Alive During Final Days Battling Stage 4 Cancer (Original Post) Ken Burch Apr 2017 OP
Now I really do madokie Apr 2017 #1
I do not want a feeding tube at the end of my life. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #2
Thats. Crazy. Man ghostsinthemachine Apr 2017 #15
I am very happy that the feeding tube help you. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #19
I understand they meant end of life, but thank goodness Luz Apr 2017 #20
Fair point. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #46
My wife has just been diagnosed with Stage 3 ovarian. There is no feeding tube in her future GliderGuider Apr 2017 #30
I am so sorry itcfish Apr 2017 #33
She doesn't want treatment. GliderGuider Apr 2017 #38
Whatever Gives Her Peace itcfish Apr 2017 #42
My aunt passed away in 2014. hamsterjill Apr 2017 #35
Here's a bit of background on my wife GliderGuider Apr 2017 #39
wishing you and Mrs. GG the best Skittles Apr 2017 #41
Simultaneously horrible ... and beautiful ... altogether very touching, and thanks for sharing ... mr_lebowski Apr 2017 #57
I am so sorry. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #47
Thank you. GliderGuider Apr 2017 #49
Her response is not that unusual to me as I have known more than one person , who made a lunasun Apr 2017 #53
Thanks. I know the choice not to prolong life medically is becoming more widespread GliderGuider Apr 2017 #55
Glad I missed those threads leftynyc Apr 2017 #3
It wasn't so much DU saying that as people all over the damn web. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #5
People of all walks of life are always probably going to jump to conclusions before hearing cstanleytech Apr 2017 #50
Reasonable assumptions. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #51
May she rest in peace Gothmog Apr 2017 #4
KNR Lucinda Apr 2017 #6
Conservative Prick Scott Baio Didn't Wait To Bash Her SoCalMusicLover Apr 2017 #7
What an ass Lithos Apr 2017 #24
depression, insecurity, self-esteem issues. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #56
Didn't Baio's wife itcfish Apr 2017 #34
In this context, Winkler's sad tweet makes even more sense... hlthe2b Apr 2017 #8
TY for setting the record straight. May she RIP. I'm grateful to have missed those posts. nt Hekate Apr 2017 #9
I wasn't saying much of that was said here. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #31
I found more details: LeftInTX Apr 2017 #10
Heartbreaking. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #11
Thank you for this post. Boomerproud Apr 2017 #12
I have a feeding tube, and cancer (stage 3) ghostsinthemachine Apr 2017 #13
My heart and prayers go out to you. murielm99 Apr 2017 #14
Beyond scary...diagnosed December 12 ghostsinthemachine Apr 2017 #16
I'm wishing the best for you, ghostsinthemachine.. whathehell Apr 2017 #17
Congrats on the shrinking of the tumor! deurbano Apr 2017 #23
The best for you ghost irisblue Apr 2017 #25
Thank you for sharing this and setting the record straight. Different Drummer Apr 2017 #18
did someone here actually say she dug her own grave? Skittles Apr 2017 #21
It wasn't a reference to THIS board as much to the cyberworld in general. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #27
thank you, and, agreed Skittles Apr 2017 #32
apparently a reference to a scott baio tweet niyad Apr 2017 #37
he is conservative piece of SHIT Skittles Apr 2017 #40
I keep trying to ignore him, but he won't go away!! niyad Apr 2017 #43
The problem with the junkie...dug own grave meme is that PatrickforO Apr 2017 #22
I remember Jerry Garcia's passing and that was the meme ghostsinthemachine Apr 2017 #28
Peace shenmue Apr 2017 #26
So It Was An All-American Legal Drug That Killed Her SoCalMusicLover Apr 2017 #29
My daughter-in-law's itcfish Apr 2017 #44
It serves no purpose to bash the dead. hamsterjill Apr 2017 #36
Makes me despise Scott Biaio even more. . WoonTars Apr 2017 #45
I think the guy only commented on this because he's desperate for attention. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #48
Not so oberliner Apr 2017 #58
He could still just have said "I'm sorry to hear she's gone", or if he couldn't just say that Ken Burch Apr 2017 #60
True oberliner Apr 2017 #61
:-( CentralMass Apr 2017 #52
Do not speak ill of the dead lunasun Apr 2017 #54
local Gov.stamp of approval-Erin Moran suffered as slow a 'death' as possible :( :( Sunlei Apr 2017 #59

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. Now I really do
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:20 PM
Apr 2017

feel for her. A couple days ago I thought, from reading some posts here, that she was nothing but a person who was gaming the system to get the drugs some of us need to survive. In the process driving nails in our coffins. I'm happy to see that none of what I had previously read, here and elsewhere, was true.

May Peace be with You KB for straightening this out for me.


 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. I do not want a feeding tube at the end of my life.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:26 PM
Apr 2017

I am my parents and they made clear no feeding tube and no breathing tubes.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
15. Thats. Crazy. Man
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:28 PM
Apr 2017

I have a feeding tube and no problems. I see my grandkids, go to shows, do pretty much everything, except eat large meals, that I did before. And a breathing tube? Youll have one when you get operated on, no doubt.

You really need to talk to someone who knows what is what instead of making blanket statements.

Luz

(772 posts)
20. I understand they meant end of life, but thank goodness
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:51 PM
Apr 2017

for my hubbys trach or he'd be dead now instead of out walking the dog.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
30. My wife has just been diagnosed with Stage 3 ovarian. There is no feeding tube in her future
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 10:12 PM
Apr 2017

She is already getting her paperwork in order - no surgery, no chemo, no resuscitation, no intubation, no curative treatments of any kind. Only palliative pain management.

We each have our own way of dealing with the end of life, and our own reasons for doing what we do. People who throw stones are throwing them at their own Shadow.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
38. She doesn't want treatment.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 02:31 PM
Apr 2017

She wants to die.

I know that probably sound harsh to most peoples' ears, but you'd have to know the rest of her situation to understand her determination.

There are many ways to approach death, and each of them is deeply personal. She is doing so with her eyes wide open, embracing it as only a fully self-realized person can.

As her loving and compassionate soul-mate, I fully support her wishes.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
35. My aunt passed away in 2014.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

My aunt was diagnosed with lung cancer in early 2014. She had one chemo treatment and decided she did not want to continue. She died in December, 2014.

She had lost three sons to a genetic disease, and her husband has pre-deceased her. She was ready to go. And although I selfishly wanted more time with her, I completely and utterly supported her in her decision.

It is INDEED an individual choice in dealing with the end of life.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
39. Here's a bit of background on my wife
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 02:44 PM
Apr 2017

Her only family is her 94 yo mother, who lives alone, 400 miles away, in the final throes of Alzheimer's. The rest of her family were killed in the Holocaust. My wife's body has been a life-long wreck, probably due to the epigenetic aftershocks of her mother's time in Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen. We have no children.

We have realized our life dream, re-uniting after a thirty-year separation and spending our final seven years together as one soul. She has worked hard for two decades to become self-realized, and IMO she has succeeded.

She sees her diagnosis as a Get Out of Jail Free card.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
57. Simultaneously horrible ... and beautiful ... altogether very touching, and thanks for sharing ...
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 05:55 AM
Apr 2017

Puts a lot of things in perspective for me at the moment.

Godspeed to your valiant wife, and you ...

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
47. I am so sorry.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:27 PM
Apr 2017

Cancer is a total bastard of a disease.

I think you two have everyone's support here for whatever choices you make.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
49. Thank you.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:14 PM
Apr 2017

It's quite an adventure. I guess my concern when I talk about it on an open forum is that my wife's response to it is so different from the social norm. I don't want to sugar-coat her attitude of conscious acceptance with fake grief and a sense of tragedy, but I worry that we're going to come across cold as a result. We're anything but.

I'm sure the landscape is going to change many times in the coming months. Thanks for your support.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
53. Her response is not that unusual to me as I have known more than one person , who made a
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:57 PM
Apr 2017

similiar choice. None came across as cold , or those around them just well thought out or intuitive sense that the time is here and now to leave .
Sometimes better to go on your own terms and if she has achieved self realization it may be her awakened consciousness and its freedom that allows her to accept this choice as liberating but there will be others who can not see it.
I understand that societies impose a norm. So I understand your hesitance, just know it's not really that abnormal of a path either.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
55. Thanks. I know the choice not to prolong life medically is becoming more widespread
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:37 AM
Apr 2017

As the hospice/palliative possibilities grow more people are being given the opportunity to value their perception of quality at end-of-life against straight time.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
5. It wasn't so much DU saying that as people all over the damn web.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:31 PM
Apr 2017

Should've waited until we heard.

cstanleytech

(26,364 posts)
50. People of all walks of life are always probably going to jump to conclusions before hearing
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:56 PM
Apr 2017

the details its just human nature and I doubt that will change any time soon if ever.
I personally assumed stroke or heart attack when I read the news not because of any past drug or alcohol use on her part but because of her age and cancer didnt even occur to me.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
51. Reasonable assumptions.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:29 PM
Apr 2017

In the last pictures they published, she looked worn down, older than her years.

Gothmog

(146,006 posts)
4. May she rest in peace
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:30 PM
Apr 2017

Her last days involved a great deal of suffering and I feel for her and wish the best

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
7. Conservative Prick Scott Baio Didn't Wait To Bash Her
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:49 PM
Apr 2017

He essentially blamed her for her death, saying it was the effects of years of drinking and drugs which caused it.

You can ALWAYS count on the Conservative A&*HOLE to be the only person to attack the dead person. You won't find Ron Howard or Henry Winkler jumping to conclusions less than 48 hours after Erin's death.

Lithos

(26,404 posts)
24. What an ass
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 07:09 PM
Apr 2017

She may have died of complications from alcohol/drugs/smoking, but I can almost guarantee you these were done as attempts to self-medicate her self-admitted depression. Ie, she died from complications resulting from depression and a$$holes like Scott Baio would gleefully deny people access to treatment and continue to stigmatize people who do find a route to proper treatment.

L-

hlthe2b

(102,574 posts)
8. In this context, Winkler's sad tweet makes even more sense...
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:49 PM
Apr 2017

Gets even sadder... May you be at peace, Erin.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
31. I wasn't saying much of that was said here.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:27 AM
Apr 2017

It was more a reference to the rush to judgment out there in Greater Cyberslavia.

LeftInTX

(25,819 posts)
10. I found more details:
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:55 PM
Apr 2017

She was diagnosed with throat cancer around Thanksgiving
She was receiving chemo and radiation
Sounds like the chemo and radiation weren't going very well

http://pagesix.com/2017/04/24/happy-days-star-erin-moran-died-of-cancer/

Boomerproud

(7,986 posts)
12. Thank you for this post.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:18 PM
Apr 2017

So tragic. My only hope is that she wasn't alone. If what Scott Baio said that was posted above is true-go to hell.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
13. I have a feeding tube, and cancer (stage 3)
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:24 PM
Apr 2017

And mine goes in my stomach. Esophageal cancer usually, as in my case. After my operation (esophectomy) May 12th, I will have another feeding tube, but this time into my intestine. I doubt hers was in her throat.

Its not so bad taking food this way. Boring yes, but not so bad. My tumor has shrunk enough to allow.me to eat some things, so thats good, but only a recent development.

murielm99

(30,790 posts)
14. My heart and prayers go out to you.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:27 PM
Apr 2017

I hope you continue to improve and do not have too much pain. This must be scary, to say the least.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
16. Beyond scary...diagnosed December 12
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:31 PM
Apr 2017

But I knew since early October when I could not get food to pass. It was tough getting to diagnosis.

Thanks for your concern.

deurbano

(2,896 posts)
23. Congrats on the shrinking of the tumor!
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 07:00 PM
Apr 2017

My daughter had to have a stomach feeding tube (PEG) during treatment for/recovery from lymphoma. A tumor was crushing her esophagus, and that caused a lot of coughing (initially misdiagnosed as allergies!), and eventually led to aspiration while eating.

The chemo effectively shrank the tumor, and she is now past the three-year mark from the last chemo.

I wish you the same good outcome! And very best wishes for an uneventful and highly successful surgery on the 12th!

Different Drummer

(7,682 posts)
18. Thank you for sharing this and setting the record straight.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:39 PM
Apr 2017

The rush to judgment that people tend toward in situations like this always bothers me.

Skittles

(153,317 posts)
21. did someone here actually say she dug her own grave?
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:56 PM
Apr 2017

or were they just sad that she has long battled so many demons?

my condolences to her friends and loved ones

Skittles

(153,317 posts)
32. thank you, and, agreed
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:35 AM
Apr 2017

I saw sympathy for her here - out there, not so much, including from that conservative asshole Scott Baio.

Skittles

(153,317 posts)
40. he is conservative piece of SHIT
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 06:59 PM
Apr 2017

he said you "try" and then you "let them go" - see, that's the difference between you and me, asshole - I NEVER STOP TRYING with my loved ones / friends

PatrickforO

(14,608 posts)
22. The problem with the junkie...dug own grave meme is that
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:58 PM
Apr 2017

it is a corporate propaganda effort designed to promote more tax dollars going to defense contracts, and more corporate tax cuts as opposed to using those tax dollars WE pay in for programs that actually help us.

In addition, we do not have single payer, and so are barbaric. Moran probably couldn't afford proper treatment, and could not afford the meds she needed and so likely died in hellish pain.

But, hey, some big pharma bean counter out there is smugly satisfied at this quarter's profits...

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
28. I remember Jerry Garcia's passing and that was the meme
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 09:02 PM
Apr 2017

But he died, not from heroin, but Hagen Das and Camel unfiltered's. Digging your own grave all the same, but nobody mentioned that.

We all dig our own graves really. My cancer was probably caused by smoking and drinking in my past. Studies shoow a higher incidence anyway.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
29. So It Was An All-American Legal Drug That Killed Her
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 09:28 PM
Apr 2017

If she had throat cancer, sorry Scott....it may have been Cigarettes that killed her, not alcohol & drugs.

But we must not hurt the tobacco farmers, by talking about an elephant in the room where it comes to something like throat cancer. She was a lifelong smoker, and perhaps it should serve as a reminder about the danger of a life spent smoking tobacco.

itcfish

(1,828 posts)
44. My daughter-in-law's
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 12:44 PM
Apr 2017

Father has throat cancer, never smoked, rarely drank. He is 56 years old. He is going through terrible cancer treatment now. I hope he gets cured. Sometimes these things happen through no fault of your own.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
36. It serves no purpose to bash the dead.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:25 PM
Apr 2017

They can no longer defend themselves. May "Joanie" rest in peace with my thanks for the laughs and entertainment that she brought to my household with her acting talents.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
48. I think the guy only commented on this because he's desperate for attention.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:30 PM
Apr 2017

And then he played the "people are only mad because I'm a Trump supporter" card, because he sees HIMSELF as the victim here.

I think we can now use "Baio" as a euphemism for "douchebag"-as in "that dude's a total Baio",

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
60. He could still just have said "I'm sorry to hear she's gone", or if he couldn't just say that
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 08:50 AM
Apr 2017

said "no comment" and walk away.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
61. True
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 09:56 AM
Apr 2017

But he was specifically asked about her history of drug and alcohol use.

I guess my point is that the people asking the questions (and the way they asked them) also benefited from coaxing Baio to say something like this and then milking it for hits.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
54. Do not speak ill of the dead
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:01 AM
Apr 2017

The Latin phrases De mortuis nihil nisi bonum ("Of the dead, nothing unless good&quot and De mortuis nil nisi bene [dicendum] ("Of the dead, nothing [spoken] unless [truthfully]&quot indicate that it is socially inappropriate to speak ill of the dead.

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