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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:35 AM Apr 2017

Pence: Misstatements about U.S. aircraft carrier location not intentional

Source: Politico



By LOUIS NELSON 04/19/17 07:39 AM EDT

Vice President Mike Pence said Wednesday that misstatements about the location of a U.S. aircraft carrier supposedly on its way to the waters off the Korean peninsula were not made intentionally.

Earlier this month, White House and Pentagon officials announced that the USS Carl Vinson and its accompanying battle group had been deployed off the coast of the Korean peninsula, a response to a missile test launched by North Korea. But on Monday, Defense News reported that the Carl Vinson was nowhere near the Korean peninsula and had instead been photographed near Indonesia.

Reporting that the Carl Vinson had not immediately turned north towards the Korean peninsula was corroborated by the New York Times, Reuters and others, leaving government officials in the awkward position of having to explain why the aircraft carrier had not been deployed as initially described.

Asked during an interview with CNN if the misstatements from White House and Pentagon officials had been intentional, Pence replied “oh, I think not” and noted the already strong U.S. military presence in the Asia-Pacific region, including in Japan and South Korea. He did not offer an explanation as to why government officials had said the Carl Vinson was steaming for the Sea of Japan when it was not.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/mike-pence-aircraft-carrier-north-korea-237356

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Pence: Misstatements about U.S. aircraft carrier location not intentional (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2017 OP
It's the Philadelphia Experiment !!! underpants Apr 2017 #1
Maybe both versions are true. The battleship was in both position simultaneously due to our KittyWampus Apr 2017 #11
Look, if they have transporter technology I WANT IT! underpants Apr 2017 #12
Lying bastard. I can only hope that he is impeached along with the turd who is president. olegramps Apr 2017 #17
BULLSHITBULLSHITBULLSHIT! Zoonart Apr 2017 #2
They spin so many F'en lies endlessly they can't even tell truth from fiction and the guy in the WH? RKP5637 Apr 2017 #26
This Really Instills A Lot Of Confidence In Our pResident And Military..... global1 Apr 2017 #3
Military is fine, but tRump blamed Pentagon for 'conflicting information'. Wanna bet WH is to blame? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #7
Kim Jong-un must be laughing his ass off. And other world leaders must be snickering and RKP5637 Apr 2017 #27
Clueless amateur RepubliCON-tRump regime not fully in control of themselves even. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #4
"It's just that we don't know what we're talking about." Zorro Apr 2017 #5
Yes! This! The Incompetents. Madam45for2923 Apr 2017 #15
Pence replied oh, I think not left-of-center2012 Apr 2017 #6
You assholes bring us to the brink SCVDem Apr 2017 #8
So you didn't lie, great Phoenix61 Apr 2017 #9
Hey ass**** by the name of Mike Pence the illegitimate vice -president turbinetree Apr 2017 #10
It was always a lie jeanmarc Apr 2017 #13
Lying Pence covering for stupidly bluffing drumpf. lark Apr 2017 #14
republicans: the gang that couldn't pee straight Achilleaze Apr 2017 #16
Pence is an idiot too! GeorgeGist Apr 2017 #18
Yeah, you're fucking morons. We know. nt Flaleftist Apr 2017 #19
S.N.A.F.U. vkkv Apr 2017 #20
How is unintentional better than intentional in this case? nt HopeAgain Apr 2017 #21
"not made intentionally" Bayard Apr 2017 #22
So... this "Administration" didn't know where a United State Navy task force was... krispos42 Apr 2017 #23
What a weird thing to have happened Politicub Apr 2017 #24
Translation? Yonnie3 Apr 2017 #25
I believe him MFM008 Apr 2017 #28
Mike Pence has the mind of a 12 yr old. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #29
This Comment Is Some Special Kind of Stupid ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #30
Idiots....all of them. Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #31
Spin choices : nocalflea Apr 2017 #32
Not lies? The only other explanation is rampant incompetence nt joeybee12 Apr 2017 #33
Maybe it wasn't an intentional deception Bradical79 Apr 2017 #34
"Armada schmarmada. Did you see the way I squinted at them?" 6000eliot Apr 2017 #35
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
11. Maybe both versions are true. The battleship was in both position simultaneously due to our
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:00 AM
Apr 2017

super secret time/space warping device that allows a battleship to occupy two positions at once?

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
26. They spin so many F'en lies endlessly they can't even tell truth from fiction and the guy in the WH?
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:20 PM
Apr 2017

Well, he lives in a delusional world. Can you imagine what these idiots would do in a serious crisis ...

global1

(25,298 posts)
3. This Really Instills A Lot Of Confidence In Our pResident And Military.....
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:44 AM
Apr 2017

no explanation - come on......

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
27. Kim Jong-un must be laughing his ass off. And other world leaders must be snickering and
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

concerned that these fools have no idea what they're doing.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
8. You assholes bring us to the brink
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:47 AM
Apr 2017

of nuclear war and know very well that the largest defense budget on the planet cannot ensure tens of millions won't die or suffer?!

Now you go OOPS! This administration is made of American Terrorists and WE are the target!

Fuck all ya'all! YOU'RE FIRED!

Phoenix61

(17,027 posts)
9. So you didn't lie, great
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:53 AM
Apr 2017

You are just so stupid you don't know where an aircraft carrier and it's battle group is located, not great, not even good. That you offer that as an explanation and think it will make us feel better is yet another example of how incredibly clueless you are.

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
10. Hey ass**** by the name of Mike Pence the illegitimate vice -president
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:57 AM
Apr 2017

FU-----------------again, FU Pence


You and your sexual predator "buddy" and your supposedly "christian values BS have exactly how many people working for you being paid by the taxpayers, not knowing which way is up or which way is down when it comes to "knowing" which and where a f****ing battle group is suppose to be.

You really are a dip sh*t .


Rachel Maddow got another dot connected stupid or nefarious




jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
13. It was always a lie
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:13 AM
Apr 2017

Trump is just so unpredictable! He's the wild card!

Man, I am so sick of this incompetence and lying.

lark

(23,203 posts)
14. Lying Pence covering for stupidly bluffing drumpf.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:16 AM
Apr 2017

Drumpf lied on purpose to create havoc and (he thinks) fear in North Korea. His over inflated ego thinks of this as "his" military and so he uses them to try and bluff a wiley NK. NK is not as stupid as he thinks they are, because he underestimates everyone except himself and he total over estimates that, in a bad crazy way. No one, not even leaders of other countries, can trust a damn thing Drumpf says. His red lines are all in his head. Syria was a total fake conspiracy story, probably made up by Putin to stop the line that Drumpf is in hock to them so Hair Furor has an excuse to remove sanctions when Russia and he "make up". Nothing at all is as it seems. In fact, I get majorly surprised when I hear any shred of reality coming out of his mouth. Yesterday he accidentally (?) let the cat out of the bag about healthcare, that they need the $ saved from helping the poor so he can give the tax cuts for the ultra rich (for himself and his family) that he's dreaming about. That and Russia enriching him are the reasons he ran. Forget about that Obama crap, that's just another story he's pushing for his brainless hating Nazi base. Yeah, he hates the brown guy, because he knows deep down that he's 10x smarter than him and because he dare make the rich have to pay for anything. Government owes the rich everything because they have bought it outright, not because they do anything good with the $, as R's like to claim. They aren't job makers, they are job destroyers.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
16. republicans: the gang that couldn't pee straight
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:37 AM
Apr 2017

deplorable

This is the kind of unforgivable clusterfuckery you get when republicans pimp America with a vulgar five-time draft-dodging casino sharpie with skanky darkside debts to the evil empire* of russia.

* per ronald reagan

Bayard

(22,247 posts)
22. "not made intentionally"
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 11:53 AM
Apr 2017

Then that just means you and your boss are stupid and incompetent as hell. WAY scarier. Pencess prancing around in his military jacket like rTrump. Did he even serve in the military?

I only watch MSNBC, but it looks like most newscasters do not even bother to hide their contempt for this bag of turnips stuffed into a clown car anymore.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
23. So... this "Administration" didn't know where a United State Navy task force was...
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:00 PM
Apr 2017

...nor where it was going?

As in, "couldn't be bothered to call the Pentagon"?

Wow.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
24. What a weird thing to have happened
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:04 PM
Apr 2017

From an administration that displays weirdness every day.

I mean, how could anyone make a mistake like this? It's a freaking aircraft carrier.

Yonnie3

(17,520 posts)
25. Translation?
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:14 PM
Apr 2017

Asked during an interview with CNN if the misstatements from White House and Pentagon officials had been intentional, Pence replied “oh, I think not”

Perhaps this means

"We didn't lie, we're just stupid"
"We just say whatever we want to look good"
"My dog ate my home work, so I didn't know."
"We never know that the f*ck we are talking about"

I'm waiting for "I am not crook". History does repeat.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,152 posts)
29. Mike Pence has the mind of a 12 yr old.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:27 PM
Apr 2017

On every issue he would be worse than a disaster.

I believe he is also a dominionist?


MIKE PENCE WILL BE THE MOST POWERFUL CHRISTIAN SUPREMACIST IN U.S. HISTORY



https://theintercept.com/2016/11/15/mike-pence-will-be-the-most-powerful-christian-supremacist-in-us-history/

ProfessorGAC

(65,458 posts)
30. This Comment Is Some Special Kind of Stupid
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:50 PM
Apr 2017

Of course the misstatements were unintentional. And, it doesn't explain how the WH and the military were on such radically different pages when a provocation of a nutjob regime like NK was on the line.

If they did it on purpose, then they're stupid thinking that satellites wouldn't pick up a little thing like an aircraft carrier.

And if they said stuff before they know everyone was on board with the plan, then they're stupid.

So, no matter how it happened, it was stupidity manifest large.

Docreed2003

(16,906 posts)
31. Idiots....all of them.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:44 PM
Apr 2017

Spicer says the "armada" heading to NK is a fact, Pence says it's an innocent misunderstanding....every last one of these guys is a moron and they're debasing themselves in support of a boss who is unhinged.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
32. Spin choices :
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:56 PM
Apr 2017

incompetence vs. strategic deception vs . blame it on the admirals
Pence chooses incompetence .

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
34. Maybe it wasn't an intentional deception
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:12 PM
Apr 2017

I for one find gross incompetence and idiocy just as likely. Either explanation makes sense to me. Sometimes the Trump administration is just plain stupid.

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