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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:05 AM Apr 2017

New Video Reveals United Passenger Being Far from 'Belligerent'

Source: Mediaite




by Matthew Balan | 8:23 am, April 18th, 2017



Well, Dr. David Dao’s eventual lawsuit against United Airlines just got a little easier. Video footage posted on Mashable shows that the passenger was not “disruptive and belligerent,” as company CEO Oscar Munoz initially described him.

In the video, Dr. Dao replied to a law enforcement officer, “I am a physician. I have to work tomorrow.” However, he is not shouting and causing a scene.

The tone in his voice did get louder seconds later when he emphasized that he was “not going.” Dr. Dao continued to talk normally with the officer until the video cuts out before the now-infamous dragging started.

Watch the video above, which was shot by passenger Joya Griffin Cummings.

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New Video Reveals United Passenger Being Far from 'Belligerent' (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2017 OP
I guess they will have to go to plan B now, and try to sully his reputation. If United had any still_one Apr 2017 #1
United Airlines Changes Its Policy On Displacing Customers oberliner Apr 2017 #2
It's interesting that that was actually always its policy ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #4
That is interesting still_one Apr 2017 #7
wow, how about that still_one Apr 2017 #6
They already tried that and made a major screwup WhiteTara Apr 2017 #12
I know, I was being sarcastic still_one Apr 2017 #13
... WhiteTara Apr 2017 #14
Probably but unless its a recent case of belligerence it isnt material. cstanleytech Apr 2017 #29
I hope he doesn't accept a settlement. I'd love to see this taken to court, and even televised. Towlie Apr 2017 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Apr 2017 #5
Where did you read that? I have seen angstlessk Apr 2017 #8
He reboarded after he was dragged off and injured, not before. bettyellen Apr 2017 #9
He just sauntered back on and no one noticed? I don't think so. Demit Apr 2017 #10
He came back on board after the cops already beat him, incoherent. Squaredeal Apr 2017 #16
I want you to explain how you couldn't get back on the plane without permission but Demit Apr 2017 #21
I read many accounts and every single one said the other 3 passengers left voluntarily pnwmom Apr 2017 #18
100% WRONG obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #20
Where do you get your news? You are dead wrong on the facts. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #25
I think you have that wrong, better check your source. We all saw multiple videos of what happened. brush Apr 2017 #28
Well, in all fairness to United, his seat back wasn't in the full forward pangaia Apr 2017 #11
And....... MyOwnPeace Apr 2017 #15
Plus his cell is not in airplane mode. pangaia Apr 2017 #17
You nailed it! The old cell-not-in-airlplane mode defense! :) n/m bagelsforbreakfast Apr 2017 #19
And he completely filled in the crossword puzzle... Dave Starsky Apr 2017 #23
He hadn't looked around to see where the nearest exit was so they had to force him to see. JudyM Apr 2017 #22
Dao should add defamation to his causes of action against United. nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #24
Yes. Btw, NBC's David Muir described him as "Asian" Hortensis Apr 2017 #26
The 3 main videos show duncang Apr 2017 #27
My question is why and how was he chosen out of a plane full of passengers. Egnever Apr 2017 #30
Airline should have just offered more money, eventually someone would give. harun Apr 2017 #31
Yup Egnever Apr 2017 #32
Edited my response with why we got bumped. harun Apr 2017 #33

still_one

(92,523 posts)
1. I guess they will have to go to plan B now, and try to sully his reputation. If United had any
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:17 AM
Apr 2017

common sense and decency, they would settle this out of court, immediately change the practice of over-booking, and apologize

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. United Airlines Changes Its Policy On Displacing Customers
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:19 AM
Apr 2017
United Airlines crew members will no longer be able to bump a passenger who is already seated in one of the airline's planes.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/14/524033117/united-airlines-changes-its-policy-on-displacing-customers

WhiteTara

(29,736 posts)
12. They already tried that and made a major screwup
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:09 PM
Apr 2017

when they got his name wrong and used someone else's bio to discredit him.

cstanleytech

(26,361 posts)
29. Probably but unless its a recent case of belligerence it isnt material.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:31 PM
Apr 2017

The real test however will be the contract thats part of the airline ticket and what the varies state and or federal laws say but my bet is they will offer him a settlement with a clause that he has to keep quiet.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Squaredeal

(404 posts)
16. He came back on board after the cops already beat him, incoherent.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:34 PM
Apr 2017

Why do you think he was bloody? Check it out yourself.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
21. I want you to explain how you couldn't get back on the plane without permission but
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:08 PM
Apr 2017

he somehow could. I haven't read that in any news account anywhere & I am very intrigued.

pnwmom

(109,025 posts)
18. I read many accounts and every single one said the other 3 passengers left voluntarily
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:39 PM
Apr 2017

(if begrudgingly) but he refused to leave his seat and was dragged off. Then he ran back in his dazed state, blood dripping from his face, saying "just kill me."

If you have read an entirely different story, please provide the link.

SunSeeker

(51,801 posts)
25. Where do you get your news? You are dead wrong on the facts.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:48 PM
Apr 2017

Dao was not being belligerent when he was forceably removed from his seat. He was forceably removed after being seated, when he was yanked out of his seat so violently that his face hit the armrest, causing the bleeding. That is why he was already bloodied and disoriented (they gave him a concussion) in the videos that show him running back on the plane.

Airlines should not bump people off planes ONCE SEATED (something United said after this incident that it will never do again). It was United that was being belligerent. United could have flown the 4 crew members on another airline if there was no room on that plane. Or they could have sweetened the deal offered to $1,600 in CASH instead of the hard to use $800 vouchers they offered (which is why only 15% of passengers ever actually use them). They just tried to do it on the cheap without fully compensating people for the inconvenience. And they could have done all this BEGORE boarding the plane.


Again, where did you get your version of the story? Link please.

brush

(53,978 posts)
28. I think you have that wrong, better check your source. We all saw multiple videos of what happened.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:29 PM
Apr 2017

He was a paid passenger who was allowed to board and was seated.

The airline randomly selected him and three others by computer to be "re-accommodated" (that's full of shit United Airline speak), so that 4 airline employees could have their seats.

The doctor refused as he'd been traveling 24 hours with multiple layovers/delays. They then dragged him off.

The story is pretty well known nationally, where did you entirely different account come from?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
11. Well, in all fairness to United, his seat back wasn't in the full forward
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:55 PM
Apr 2017

and locked position for take off.

MyOwnPeace

(16,955 posts)
15. And.......
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:20 PM
Apr 2017

he wasn't paying attention to how to buckle the seat belt and deploy the oxygen mask, and had NO idea he'd need a flotation device!

(that will be United's next excuse - but THEY WERE WRONG!)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Yes. Btw, NBC's David Muir described him as "Asian"
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:53 PM
Apr 2017

and something else inappropriate in a toss-away end clearly meant to sway opinion away from him. Had me jumping up and down, but sadly, he can't sue NBC for that.

We could lift NBC's license for failure to fulfill its duty under the law. Wouldn't that be something!? We really should

duncang

(1,907 posts)
27. The 3 main videos show
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:17 PM
Apr 2017

First one shows him in his seat not being belligerent, second one shows him being beaten up, third one shows him coming back on the plane dazed from being beat up. Just wondering how did they get him off after that? Were they able to talk him out or was it another drag out?

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
30. My question is why and how was he chosen out of a plane full of passengers.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:45 PM
Apr 2017

I have been bumped before but only after I was offered compensation. I could have refused but was not in a hurry so I took the deal.

What really makes me scratch my head with this is why was he singled out. Was there really no one willing to take a deal to get off?

harun

(11,348 posts)
31. Airline should have just offered more money, eventually someone would give.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:21 PM
Apr 2017

I've been bumped and got about 3x the price of my ticket, cut me a check right there.

They offer 2-5 grand and someone will get up.

They bumped three of us and we were the last three to check-in, that was with US Airways though. The other two did not get reimbursed like I did. They threw a huge fit and stomped off. The gate attendant after they left gave me the paperwork on my rights and circled the part that said how much money I should be entitled to. Helped me out since I didn't give them as hard of a time as the other two people.

She said "Get the cash, don't take the voucher".

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
32. Yup
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:22 PM
Apr 2017

I just don't understand how this man was singled out and forced off. Something about this just does not compute for me.

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