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Judi Lynn

(160,634 posts)
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:21 AM Mar 2017

Badly Misinformed Lawmaker Thinks Our Warm Bodies May Be Causing Climate Change

Source: Huffington Post

03/29/2017 03:52 pm ET | Updated 8 hours ago

Spoiler alert: Republican Scott Wagner is very wrong.
By Michael McLaughlin



A Republican state senator running for governor of Pennsylvania shared some unusual views this week about what’s causing climate change.

Scott Wagner told a Harrisburg audience on Tuesday that the body heat from the planet’s growing population might be responsible for rising temperatures.

“We have more people. You know, humans have warm bodies. So is heat coming off?” Wagner said, according to State Impact Pennsylvania, an NPR project. “Things are changing, but I think we are, as a society, doing the best we can.”

The lawmaker was speaking to a receptive audience of rural county officials about loosening regulations on the natural gas industry.







Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/climate-change-misinformation-scott-wagner_us_58dbeecce4b01ca7b4292dc5?section=us_politics



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Republican State Senator Scott Wagner

Derp.
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Badly Misinformed Lawmaker Thinks Our Warm Bodies May Be Causing Climate Change (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2017 OP
I've read that the gases given off by cows and cattle may add to climate change. No Vested Interest Mar 2017 #1
the human population as a whole probably emits a significant amount of methane Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #11
I think you're being very unsensitive to those who have to eat what they can get. Towlie Mar 2017 #15
Meat is incredibly inefficient. It takes ten times the grain to produce meat. byronius Mar 2017 #22
it's cheaper and easier to feed people vegetarian food Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #31
How about eating meat and having less human babies n/t oldcynic Mar 2017 #36
definitely! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #45
A cow emits 400 liters of methane per day jpak Mar 2017 #17
wow, that's way more than I thought for cows Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #32
It varies with the cow and diet jpak Mar 2017 #34
We're not ruminants - it doesn't work that way hatrack Mar 2017 #25
To be honest I think when it comes down to it that its going to be a combo of things that cstanleytech Mar 2017 #38
It's methane gas that Republican's pull out of their ass. YOHABLO Mar 2017 #2
Wouldnt most Repugnants first remove their heads from their anus for the gas to escape? cstanleytech Mar 2017 #39
A room full of Republicans must have a lot of hot air in it milestogo Mar 2017 #3
Well, he's right but not for the reason he thinks Warpy Mar 2017 #4
That is true. Also, internal combustion engines generate a not insignificant amount of heat Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #13
Actually, at the level you suggest, he IS right... duhneece Mar 2017 #16
Hmm but to create the batteries and build those cars still takes industry as they cant be grown cstanleytech Mar 2017 #40
sadly, yes Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #44
might? might? oldcynic Mar 2017 #37
This clown wants to run for governor next election TEB Mar 2017 #5
We have to make sure that we re-elect Tom Wolf (D) as our PA governor. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #6
That wright TEB Mar 2017 #8
Oh good God. ck4829 Mar 2017 #7
Maybe he has a point - 98.2 x 5 billion (give or take) packman Mar 2017 #9
science-- how does it work? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #14
Magic underwear? angrychair Mar 2017 #21
LOL! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #30
Dim bulbs produce hardly any heat (or light) at all. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2017 #10
and solar panels suck up the sunlight and make the planet colder! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #12
So that's why they're trying to kill us all? forgotmylogin Mar 2017 #18
It is clear that many conservativews think science is just whatever your current opinion is. Nitram Mar 2017 #19
Yes. angrychair Mar 2017 #20
Typical repug. Truculent, stupid, supremely cocksure. Rec, nt. Mc Mike Mar 2017 #23
Actually, it's all the methane coming out of Repuglican's like his mouth mdbl Mar 2017 #24
So if we all turn up our air conditioners, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #26
250-400 BTU's...per human... Snackshack Mar 2017 #27
A Fox News viewer. OregonBlue Mar 2017 #28
What an idiot jeanmarc Mar 2017 #29
The growing population is a big part of the problem IronLionZion Mar 2017 #33
Let me think about this in simple terms. rickford66 Mar 2017 #35
Doing the best we can? Trump is undoing as fast as he can. truthisfreedom Mar 2017 #41
Just when you think people can't get any dumber . . . tclambert Mar 2017 #42
Another reason to deny health care. Less people, less global heating lunatica Mar 2017 #43
Clearly, we should replace the warm-blooded humans with lizards (nt) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #46
cause he's hot blooded check it and see, got a fever of 103...cmon voters do ya do more than dance dembotoz Mar 2017 #47
My cousin and I went through menopause at the same time TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #48

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
1. I've read that the gases given off by cows and cattle may add to climate change.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:26 AM
Mar 2017

Could it be that humans also give off gasses that are warming the planet?

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
11. the human population as a whole probably emits a significant amount of methane
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:44 AM
Mar 2017

but not as much as cows and other livestock

Animal agriculture is a real contributor to climate change, and we should all eat less meat

Towlie

(5,328 posts)
15. I think you're being very unsensitive to those who have to eat what they can get.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:17 AM
Mar 2017
http://www.thp.org/knowledge-center/know-your-world-facts-about-hunger-poverty/

World Hunger. 795 million people – or one in nine people in the world – do not have enough to eat. 98% of the world's undernourished people live in developing countries.

byronius

(7,401 posts)
22. Meat is incredibly inefficient. It takes ten times the grain to produce meat.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:48 AM
Mar 2017

Pollutes everything, uses ten times the water --

There's no justification. At all. It's a bad habit.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
31. it's cheaper and easier to feed people vegetarian food
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:03 PM
Mar 2017

there are rare places like Tibet where meat is more practical to eat, but I don't see why what I said was insensitive.

jpak

(41,760 posts)
17. A cow emits 400 liters of methane per day
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:39 AM
Mar 2017

Humans less than 0.1 L per day

The moran spews bullshit

yup

cstanleytech

(26,322 posts)
38. To be honest I think when it comes down to it that its going to be a combo of things that
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:19 PM
Mar 2017

are causing it from our purely large population to our industry and our roads and parking lots which act as deserts and heat sinks to our houses which we cool and then the heat from the AC we cool them with has to go somewhere also our damming of rivers to create artificial lakes.
In other words is a huge ass list.

cstanleytech

(26,322 posts)
39. Wouldnt most Repugnants first remove their heads from their anus for the gas to escape?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:20 PM
Mar 2017

Or do they have a blowhole?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
3. A room full of Republicans must have a lot of hot air in it
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:10 AM
Mar 2017

so I can understand why he thinks this way.

Warpy

(111,365 posts)
4. Well, he's right but not for the reason he thinks
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:13 AM
Mar 2017

(If he's capable of actual thought, that is)

The truth is that 7 billion of us needing cooking fires and biomass to eat are definitely contributing to warming through overcultivation and overgrazing marginal land and increasing desertification. We're also on our way to 12 billion by 2050. That is scary beyond belief.

With increasing atmospheric methane, a more powerful greenhouse gas, we might already be past the point of no return.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
13. That is true. Also, internal combustion engines generate a not insignificant amount of heat
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:46 AM
Mar 2017

whereas electric cars wouldn't

duhneece

(4,118 posts)
16. Actually, at the level you suggest, he IS right...
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:33 AM
Mar 2017

Think of all the cold rooms with no heat source warming up when the room was really packed with humans.

I'm not suggesting he's SO right about the rest, but I gotta say, it's an interesting thought I'd not heard or thought of before. But it makes it that much more important to make the changes we need to make to reduce climate change.

cstanleytech

(26,322 posts)
40. Hmm but to create the batteries and build those cars still takes industry as they cant be grown
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:24 PM
Mar 2017

and that industry from mining to smelting to assembling it takes energy in varies forms not to mention when the vehicle is completed it has to be transported which = more energy needed.
In other words nothing is free not even clean energy sources as it all has an impact some of it is just spread out more and or is easier to mitigate.

oldcynic

(385 posts)
37. might? might?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:06 PM
Mar 2017

The point of no return was probably reached when humans figured out how to control fire. The only reason I'm grateful Hillary is not president it that now she can't be blamed for the climate disaster that has already arrived. Dig down under the middle-east conflicts and you will find lack of water. The following is only another aspect of the worldwide problem:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39442270
Melting ice sheets makes headlines because they can be measured. Who the hell cares about remote thirsty African cattle?

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
9. Maybe he has a point - 98.2 x 5 billion (give or take)
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:27 AM
Mar 2017

491 billion degrees (and that ain't counting all the cats and dogs and wee little thingies running around on the earth).

MY GAWD - Now I know why the ice caps are melting !!!!



You know - this ties in very neatly with Repuke Health non-care, decrease the population and save the earth - Pure genius.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
26. So if we all turn up our air conditioners,
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:55 AM
Mar 2017

and open up the doors,

the problem of climate warming will be solved?

Or, we could all sit in our refrigerators and bring down our body temperature.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
27. 250-400 BTU's...per human...
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:57 AM
Mar 2017

I think he is on to something here...

/facepalm

This is right up there with wind farms are bad because the drag they cause would pull the Earth out of its orbit.


IronLionZion

(45,544 posts)
33. The growing population is a big part of the problem
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:47 PM
Mar 2017

the growing world population is contributing to global warming, but mainly because of using more resources for industry and land for farming while destroying forests.

But it can be managed. Come on people. Anyone who has lived a few decades knows that air and water pollution used to be much worse back in the day in Western industrialized countries like the USA. Our population was obviously much lower back then. Pollution has gotten better through better policy and planning even though our population has grown.

Even the hole in the Ozone layer has been getting smaller and is expected to be closed completely in 20-30 years unless it gets Trumped.

rickford66

(5,528 posts)
35. Let me think about this in simple terms.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 01:42 PM
Mar 2017

A person get their energy from stored energy from the food they eat. So there's some loss there. Some of the ingested energy is turned into kinetic energy. People move etc. So there may be an actual loss of heat from people. A crowd in a closed room doesn't take into account the ingested energy from food. I haven't studied thermo since the mid 60's so I know some others out there will have something to say about my analysis, one way or the other.

I should have added: a person is in effect a heater. There are no 100% efficient heaters or any devices known to science.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
42. Just when you think people can't get any dumber . . .
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:34 PM
Mar 2017

along comes a Republican Congressman. If it's not something about climate change, they'll say something about rape.

dembotoz

(16,851 posts)
47. cause he's hot blooded check it and see, got a fever of 103...cmon voters do ya do more than dance
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:20 PM
Mar 2017

hot blooded hot blooded

TexasBushwhacker

(20,220 posts)
48. My cousin and I went through menopause at the same time
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:43 PM
Mar 2017

My aunt said we were the cause of global warming. Pretty good joke for an elderly elementary school teacher.

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