Hillary's Popular Vote Lead Passes 2.5 Million

[DonViejo]

Source: The Daily Beast/The NYT

Hillary Clintons popular vote lead over Donald Trump has now surpassed 2.5 million votes, giving her a nearly two percentage point lead over the president-elect. Clintons lead over Trump has grown in the days following the election as remaining votes were tallied in Democratic strongholds across the country. Trump won the Electoral College with 306 votes to Clintons 232, largely buoyed by his wins in traditionally Democratic states such as Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

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[bdamomma]

1. K&R

[Initech]

2. This is an absolute travesty. Fuck the electoral college.

[SpankMe]

3. ZOMG!!! n/t

[andym]

4. They might as well call the President a super Senator

because winning the electoral college is most similar to winning the majority of 50 senate races with some population weighting.

[Sunlei]

5. America will watch the electorial college vote on 12/12 is it?

[Liberalagogo]

7. Here's all your info here:

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/key-dates.html

[Sunlei]

10. Thank you, will they do the 'right or wrong' thing on that date? Our country is already at risk from

unfit Republican words & actions..

[Hekate]

15. It is my belief that the US is so polarized, the GOP so partisan, that the Electors will not budge

Even if by some miracle the EC came through, the vote would go to the House of Representatives" how much of a chance do you think Hillary would have there?

[Sunlei]

6. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 2.5 million! How many more ballots, provisional? remain?

A State is low population because its a desert or a sub 40 degree winter climate, low population State should NOT give the residents a Vote advantage!

[Chico Man]

19. A state is a state

Ratified, etc.

And these are the United States of America. I honor that.

My suggestion is that we play by the rules of this system and reach out to these wastelands and covet their vote.

Is that such an impossible task?

[No Vested Interest]

23. The Democrats need to colonize the low population states which are over-represented

in the electoral college.
A few thousand Democratic voters in those states - Wyoming, North Dakota, etc. - could turn the tide for the Democrats in future elections.

If you can't change the rules, make the rules work for you, i. e., Democrats.

[Chico Man]

24. Very good idea

I like your thinking!

My wife and I are certainly considering it.

[LittleGirl]

8. And how many people

just didn't bother to vote because they knew that they lived in a red state and thought, why bother? It won't matter anyway.

this is just awful.

[Chico Man]

20. We need to stop putting so much weight on the presidential election

Plenty more on that ballot at the state and local level. I'd even go as far as suggesting your governor is more important than the president (has more of an impact on your day to day life). Governor is also a straight popular vote.

[LittleGirl]

21. I totally agree

but the governors weren't trump either. F*

[MBS]

9. Most direct source for current vote totals. .

here:
http://cookpolitical.com/story/10174

Hillary currently has 2,526,094 more votes than the Despicable One.

The site also shows vote totals by state, and groups swing states vs non-swing states.
If only a fraction of the "other" (for Stein, Johnson, etc) voters in the swing states had had the good sense to vote for a viable and worthy candidate, Hillary would have won the Electoral College vote, too.

[Leontius]

11. But they didn't and she lost.

Why?

[Chakab]

12. What the fuck is this obsession with Stein and Johnson voters? First off, Johnson poached

votes from Trump not Clinton. There was one outlier poll that showed Johnson getting 50% of his support from Clinton voters so time in the summer, but that did not reflect who actually voted for him on election day.

Those are people who were never going to vote for Clinton. If there had been no third party option, they would have left the top of ticket blank or stayed home.

The real issue was the fact that 10-15% of REGISTERED DEMOCRATS voted for Trump in the swing states.

[MBS]

13. you are right that the "Democratic" Trump voters

were a serious and consequential problem in those crucial swing states such as PA, OH, WI, and MI - perhaps FL as well?
Biden noticed the Trump trend when he was campaigning in his home territory in and around Scranton, a place whose voters he has long known intimately, and with whom he shares a genuine bond.
"It made me sit up and take notice", he said. .

[Hortensis]

25. Some 17-21% of Democrats are CONSERVATIVES

to various degrees who mostly always vote for the Republican candidate for president. In 2016, though, something like half of our Democratic conservatives chose Hillary.

I tend to view most of 2016's third-party voters as people who never could be expected to vote responsibly to protect our nation from the predators on the right. THEY did not disappoint.

My shock and horror arise from the reality that today a large majority of conservatives, many of them good, normal people in other facets of their lives, are in the insane grip of a political partisanship so strong that in its service they turned their backs on intellect, morals, lifelong notions of social decency, and even the teachings of their religions. I did expect more to be what they and we need them to be.

[Fast Walker 52]

14. I want a 3.1 million lead!!!!

[EL34x4]

16. I would've preferred winning the Electoral College.

Hillary won a game that nobody was playing.

[Fast Walker 52]

17. well, of course. And there's still a slim chance of that.

But in any case, it's gotta rub Trump the wrong way if she edges him even with the "3 million illegal" votes.

[roamer65]

18. 48.2 to 46.3 percent.

I am hoping Dump falls below 46.

I'd love to see Hillary break 49.

[SpankMe]

22. We're in striking distance of 2 full percentage points - 48% to 46%.

Mandate my ass.

[Cha]

26. K&R Keep goin' girl!

[Va Lefty]

27. Can you imagine the shitstorm faux news would whip up if casino don won popular vote but lost EC?