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maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:06 PM Jul 2012

George Zimmerman Out of Jail on $1 Million Bond

Source: ABC

George Zimmerman walked out of jail on $1 million bond today to await his trial on charges of killing 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman, who is accused of second degree murder in the shooting death of the unarmed teen, used money donated by supporters to pay a portion of the bond.


Florida Circuit Court Judge Kenneth Lester raised Zimmerman's bond Thursday from $150,000 to $1 million after prosecutors proved that Zimmerman had misled the court about how much money he had raised from supporters and stashed in bank accounts. Lester wrote that it was reasonable to assume that since Zimmerman had more than $130,000 in cash and a second passport, he might try to flee the U.S. to avoid prosecution.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-released-florida-jail/story?id=16727196

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George Zimmerman Out of Jail on $1 Million Bond (Original Post) maddezmom Jul 2012 OP
Gun culture helping out one of their own. nt onehandle Jul 2012 #1
Yep. The NRA and ALEC must be popping open a bottle of bubbly. eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2012 #51
Getting away with murder seems to be the new reality. Lint Head Jul 2012 #2
how is he getting away with murder? naaman fletcher Jul 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #13
I understand and agree naaman fletcher Jul 2012 #16
Those fucking goons ALWAYS get away. Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #3
So if he does run to avoid the trial, only those anonymous donors will sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 #5
Bail bond companies assume a share of the risk. That's what they are paid to do. slackmaster Jul 2012 #8
from what I read it will be a lot harder for him to run this time magical thyme Jul 2012 #17
"no longer has his passport"! We have perhaps 15 million who came in without visa and passport and jody Jul 2012 #18
I do Travis_0004 Jul 2012 #53
there is specific evidence that he is a flight risk magical thyme Jul 2012 #55
Probably some of those "innocent until proven guilty" bastards helping him out... n/t IamK Jul 2012 #6
Yeah, and what's up with him getting a trial? jeepnstein Jul 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #14
guess you think Hispanics don't get a trial in the US? n/t IamK Jul 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #22
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #24
After Zimmerman defied police orders. After Zimmerman got out of his car Scootaloo Jul 2012 #26
Partly true, Zimmerman did go out armed against the orders of the police. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #28
I wasn't on the Titanic, but I have a pretty good idea what happened. n/t Scootaloo Jul 2012 #29
Yes, it sunk. nt cstanleytech Jul 2012 #31
We weren't there when most murders occur. What's your point? Suji to Seoul Jul 2012 #33
The point is thats what a jury is for, to listen to the evidence and decide if it was self defense cstanleytech Jul 2012 #39
a fist fight is grounds to us lethal force? could i have shot my bullies who beat me up in middle Suji to Seoul Jul 2012 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #49
True, he did go against what the police told him to do cstanleytech Jul 2012 #56
Yes, it can be grounds if you believe your life to be in danger though the jury might not agree cstanleytech Jul 2012 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #59
Point you and others are missing still bupkus is cstanleytech Jul 2012 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #62
No, he isnt guilty cstanleytech Jul 2012 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #65
Yes it does include making excuses. You don't see the important variable. Suji to Seoul Jul 2012 #66
Thats what its sounding like you want. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #70
I am not spreading any lies I am pointing out a fact which is zimmerman cstanleytech Jul 2012 #71
No such order was given. PavePusher Jul 2012 #44
Well said....excellent, simple and factual. FarPoint Jul 2012 #52
Do you have evidence of that other than Zimmerman's self serving words that have been Suji to Seoul Jul 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #37
Let me see if I understand what your saying permatex Jul 2012 #58
well, in the US... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #23
well, then... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #35
"I don't see Zimmerman swinging from a tree"... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #46
Actually there isnt any doubt that Zimmerman did it. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #64
Yeah, I was just getting frustrated... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #68
Same issue here up the thread a bit. nt cstanleytech Jul 2012 #69
Your rant would make more sense if Zimmerman was a law enforcement officer. Sirveri Jul 2012 #34
This! Really... LittleGirl Jul 2012 #7
Probably a bail bond company. slackmaster Jul 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #48
Zimmermaqn is now handicapped? lobodons Jul 2012 #10
Handicapped? amuse bouche Jul 2012 #12
He better hope he doesn't end up behind bars SoFlaJet Jul 2012 #40
I'll bet you a dollar he does something stupid while he's out on bond and gets in more trouble. n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #15
That's one bet you are guaranteed to win. n/t beac Jul 2012 #19
Agree with beac, easy money. joshcryer Jul 2012 #25
I wouldnt take you up on that bet because I think you may well be right. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #30
He'd better be careful while out on bail primavera Jul 2012 #38
Wonder if he'll try to run tawadi Jul 2012 #41
With that much money at risk, the bail bond company will make sure he doesn't miss any court dates slackmaster Jul 2012 #42
It's unacceptable that he's made money off of this tragedy flamingdem Jul 2012 #43
Where is this poor bastard fleeing to? same place Scott Peterson was? lolololol Bo Jul 2012 #47
Yeah, right. Who fucking paid it??!?! My guess: It begins with an "N" and ends with an "A" Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #50
Yup, he's their new poster boy. nt TBF Jul 2012 #60
danger to society - stalked someone and murdered them - does not belong on the street 2Design Jul 2012 #54

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
2. Getting away with murder seems to be the new reality.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jul 2012

Politicians do it and private citizens do it. All you need is money.

Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #4)

sinkingfeeling

(51,490 posts)
5. So if he does run to avoid the trial, only those anonymous donors will
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:29 PM
Jul 2012

get stung. Wonder where the rest of the collateral came from?

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
8. Bail bond companies assume a share of the risk. That's what they are paid to do.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:41 PM
Jul 2012

Typically about 90%. The bailee pays a non-refundable fee up front, either cash or a lien on property.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
17. from what I read it will be a lot harder for him to run this time
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:31 PM
Jul 2012

The judge said outright that he believes Zimmie was planning to run.

He now is under curfew, is wearing a monitoring device, has to report into the court every 48 hours, can't open a bank account, can't leave the state, etc. And of course he no longer has his passport.

It's too bad they let him out on any bail, but at least now the bail is more appropriate and the judge has a good idea of what he's dealing with. And, of course, his credibility is shot to hell and his SYG defense is based entirely on his credibility.

So I'm hopeful he'll get a fair trial and certain that he'll get some form of justice. Time will tell whether it's court justice or street justice....

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
18. "no longer has his passport"! We have perhaps 15 million who came in without visa and passport and
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jul 2012

you really believe taking his passport will prevent him from leaving?

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
53. I do
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:25 PM
Jul 2012

Zimmerman wasn't arrested for a few months after the shooting. He didn't run in that time. He was out on the first bail for a while and didn't run then. I would say its reasonable to expect that he will show up to trial.

Also, people are entitled to bail, and a fair trial. Without specific evidence that he is a flight risk, he should have the opportunity to get out on bail.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
55. there is specific evidence that he is a flight risk
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jul 2012

not only in lying about the money and hiding the passport, but certain details of the conversation with Mrs. Zimmy pointed that way.

However, he no longer has the money or passport, is wearing a monitor, has to report in, etc. So running is a lot harder now than it was then. And he has proven himself stupid enough that if he does try to run, he'll likely get caught.

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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. After Zimmerman defied police orders. After Zimmerman got out of his car
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 12:57 AM
Jul 2012

After Zimmerman chased down Trayvon while armed.

Some people will spare no expense to justify the murder of a black child, it seems.

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
28. Partly true, Zimmerman did go out armed against the orders of the police.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 01:34 AM
Jul 2012

As for the rest? *shrug* I wasnt there nor as far as I can tell was anyone else here in this thread so its a bit presumptuous to be making the call on if this is a case of self defense or murder though it certainly doesnt help Zimmermans case that he is a known liar now as well as the fact that he didnt obey the police and he followed Martin.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
33. We weren't there when most murders occur. What's your point?
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 04:37 AM
Jul 2012

But when the evidence points toward one person being ultimately responsible, the rest really becomes moot and irrelevant.

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
39. The point is thats what a jury is for, to listen to the evidence and decide if it was self defense
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:38 AM
Jul 2012

or if it was murder.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
45. a fist fight is grounds to us lethal force? could i have shot my bullies who beat me up in middle
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jul 2012

school? i would be tried for murder.

this is not self-defense grounds for lethal force, especially when the opponent is armed and dangerous with skittles and iced tea

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cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
56. True, he did go against what the police told him to do
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:26 PM
Jul 2012

and thats going to be hard for him to explain to a jury imo.

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
57. Yes, it can be grounds if you believe your life to be in danger though the jury might not agree
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jul 2012

with you but in this specific case its not looking good as a defense for Zimmerman in light of the fact that he went out armed to follow the kid after the police told him to stay put.

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cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
61. Point you and others are missing still bupkus is
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jul 2012

thats why we have things called trials with juries.
I am not arguing against your belief, I share it in fact but I am arguing for our legal system which is setup the way it is to prevent and or atleast reduce the chances of someone innocent being convicted for a crime.

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cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
63. No, he isnt guilty
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 08:52 PM
Jul 2012

of anything until the jury in a court decides he is.
As for the smokescreen you tried there with your 2nd question, the system is the system, if your unhappy with then change it to one that would make you happier say....................guilty until proven innocent?

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Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
66. Yes it does include making excuses. You don't see the important variable.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jul 2012

Remember, the murdered kid was black. He was in a suburban neighbor. He was wearing a hoodie. He was obvious up to no good. CASE CLOSED. NOT GUILTY!!!

The only reason Zimmerman gets any of this defense from people is because Trayvon was black. Switch the races and NO ONE WOULD CARE except to crucify the "gangsta rap listening, drug dealing ghetto thug."

(massive sarcasm)

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
67. Thats what its sounding like you want.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:20 AM
Jul 2012

And a trial before a jury incase you were unaware isnt about justice solely for zimmerman but for both the person who was hurt and the person that hurt them as well.
Maybe they will not find Zimmerman guilty, maybe they will but we will have to wait and see and as for the delay in arresting zimmerman that has zero to do with the trial or zimmermans guilt or innocence but rather the police force.

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cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
71. I am not spreading any lies I am pointing out a fact which is zimmerman
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 09:42 PM
Jul 2012

like everyone else is entitled to a trial before a jury, thats a fact.
Now personally I think he is guilty of manslaughter at the very least because he disobeyed the police and decided to go out armed and because he then lied to the judge about how much money he had at his first bond hearing but then thats my opinion and its why I would make a poor juror as I would probably vote to convict.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
32. Do you have evidence of that other than Zimmerman's self serving words that have been
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 04:35 AM
Jul 2012

proven to be lies by the tangible evidence collected?

Way to smear the victim of murder. Next time a rapist rapes some girl, be sure to blame the short skirt. . .like Bill O'Reilly did a few years ago!

Disgusting.

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permatex

(1,299 posts)
58. Let me see if I understand what your saying
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jul 2012

and if I'm wrong, please correct, are you saying that he doesn't deserve a fair trial because he killed Trayvon Martin?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
20. well, in the US...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jul 2012

you are assumed innocent until proven guilty. He has a right to a trial, even though he is a fuck head.

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awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
27. well, then...
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 01:29 AM
Jul 2012

let us just start stringing every mother fucker we think is guilty at the nearest tree. Fuck it, it ain't worth the hassle.

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awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
46. "I don't see Zimmerman swinging from a tree"...
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jul 2012

no, it isn't. I was just taking what you said a bit further. Whether you like it or not, the man must face a trial and convicted before we can start talking about executing him (I am anti-death penalty, by the way). Yes, a teenage boy is dead for doing nothing. If a jury says Zimmerman did it, then he will be punished. We can not forego the law in certain situations.

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
64. Actually there isnt any doubt that Zimmerman did it.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 08:57 PM
Jul 2012

Zimmerman is going to have to prove to the jury though that he had a good reason for it such as self defense which is going to be hard for him to do if he doesnt testify and if he testifies then the prosecution will I assume ask him why he disobeyed the police and followed Martin and they may also ask him why did he lie under oath during his bond hearing about the money in that bank account he had and why did he also try to hide said money by transferring it.
When its all said and done I dont envy his lawyer one bit.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
68. Yeah, I was just getting frustrated...
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:33 AM
Jul 2012

Like it or not, the jackass gets a trial. The person I was responding to wasn't getting that.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
34. Your rant would make more sense if Zimmerman was a law enforcement officer.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:04 AM
Jul 2012

He wasn't, just another sociopath who thinks it's OK to screw with other people and assault them, like hundreds of other folks have done and gone to jail for.

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lobodons

(1,290 posts)
10. Zimmermaqn is now handicapped?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:50 PM
Jul 2012

So now Zimmerman is claiming to be handicapped too? (watch entire video to the end)

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
40. He better hope he doesn't end up behind bars
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:45 AM
Jul 2012

Because the brothers WILL fuck him up bigtime, and if he isn't handicapped already he most certainly will be after he hits the general population-IF he even survives...that's just the fact of the matter folks

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
30. I wouldnt take you up on that bet because I think you may well be right.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 01:37 AM
Jul 2012

After all he has proven himself to be stupid when he lied about that money and tried to hide it from the court as well as the 2nd passport.

primavera

(5,191 posts)
38. He'd better be careful while out on bail
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:49 AM
Jul 2012

He's got an awful lot of people pissed off at him. I can't help but wonder at the kind of pressure the DA's office must be under to convict Zimmerman. If they fail to hold him accountable for his crime, the public will not be pleased and some may even wish to seek justice through more direct means.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
42. With that much money at risk, the bail bond company will make sure he doesn't miss any court dates
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:49 AM
Jul 2012

You can be sure they have a couple of bounty hunters watching his every move.

flamingdem

(39,335 posts)
43. It's unacceptable that he's made money off of this tragedy
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jul 2012

He shouldn't be allowed to keep money made off of the death of a teenager

Bo

(1,080 posts)
47. Where is this poor bastard fleeing to? same place Scott Peterson was? lolololol
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:46 PM
Jul 2012

....and justice for all

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