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maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 02:20 PM Jul 2012

Divisions flare in Northern Ireland government over plans for police probe into Bloody Sunday

Last edited Tue Jul 10, 2012, 08:42 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: WaPo

DUBLIN — Divisions flared in Northern Ireland’s cross-community government Friday over police plans to open a criminal investigation into Bloody Sunday, a watershed event in the territory’s conflict 40 years ago when British troops killed 13 Irish Catholic demonstrators.

The Protestant who leads the 5-year-old coalition, Peter Robinson, said police must investigate what his Catholic colleague atop the government, Martin McGuinness, was doing as an Irish Republican Army commander on that day 40 years ago. The comments represented a rare moment of discord between Robinson and McGuinness over the latter’s murky IRA past.

Robinson said McGuinness “openly admitted that he was in charge” of IRA forces in Londonderry at Bloody Sunday. “If that was the case then there has to be an investigation, if you’re investigating the (British) Army.”

The episode underscores how scarred Northern Ireland remains from its four-decade conflict, which left a trail of more than 3,200 unsolved killings, most of them committed by McGuinness’ Provisional IRA. That dominant IRA faction renounced violence and disarmed in 2005, a prerequisite for McGuinness to become joint leader of Northern Ireland’s government two years later.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/divisions-in-northern-ireland-government-rise-over-plans-for-police-probe-into-bloody-sunday/2012/07/06/gJQASdTmRW_story.html



Court Maintains IRA Interview Recordings Must Be Turned Over To Police

The historic meeting between former Irish Republican Army leader Martin McGuinness and Queen Elizabeth in June signified an end to decades of violence and animosity between the two states.

But vestiges of The Troubles in Northern Ireland are still with us, and the heat is being felt in Boston of all places.

Boston College has housed the oral histories of top IRA and Loyalist figures, who gave their stories to researchers on the promise the records would remain confidential until their deaths. But British police, investigating a decades-old murder, want access to some of those stories now. The resulting legal fight has tested the limits of academic freedom in the face of overwhelming diplomatic pressure from America’s closest ally.

Last year a US District Court Judge ordered Boston College to turn over its records. The researchers themselves then sought the right to appeal the ruling on their own. The First Circuit Court of Appeals heard their arguments in April.

On July 6, researchers lost another legal attempt to block the transfer of their records, as the First Circuit upheld the lower court’s ruling — setting up a possible showdown in the nation’s highest court.

more: http://radioboston.wbur.org/2012/07/09/ira-interviews-bc
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Divisions flare in Northern Ireland government over plans for police probe into Bloody Sunday (Original Post) maddezmom Jul 2012 OP
So since McGuinness was in charge of the IRA, gunning down civilians is... ok? Lars77 Jul 2012 #1
This MichaelMcGuire Jul 2012 #2
It's good to see, after 40 years, that they've let bygones be bygones. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #3
The orangeman has a long, long memory. Peregrine Took Jul 2012 #4
There's a toast that is sometimes used: "Lord, please don't let me forget my enemies." AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #5
Missing the point Franker65 Jul 2012 #6
Thanks for pointing out the obvious and welcome to DU nt riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #8
Strange priorities, given the economic turmoil in Ireland. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #7
 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
2. This
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 02:46 PM
Jul 2012

"a 2010 report concluding that soldiers of the British Army’s hardened Parachute Regiment gunned down unarmed protesters without justification."

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Peregrine Took

(7,417 posts)
4. The orangeman has a long, long memory.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jul 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Order

When my brother went to school in Belgium in the 1950's he had a Protestant friend from No. Ireland. Oddly enough, my mother is from N. Ireland but she is Catholic and my brother was going to visit his Catholic relatives there upon graduation.

His Protestant friend traveled to N. Ireland with him, and even drove him to our aunt's house in the country but when he came within a block or two of the house he told my brother he would have to get out and walk the last way with his heavy suitcase as he would never drive to a Catholic door.
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
5. There's a toast that is sometimes used: "Lord, please don't let me forget my enemies."
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jul 2012

I have no idea as to whether its origin is Catholic or Protestant, Irish or Scot.

Franker65

(299 posts)
6. Missing the point
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 06:54 AM
Jul 2012

No British soldiers were killed in Derry that day. Alot of civilians were. So the IRA aspect shouldn't even come into this discussion. The people were unarmed civil rights demonstraters.

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