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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:19 PM Jul 2016

Iran destroys 100,000 'depraving' satellite dishes

Source: Al Jazeera

Authorities say the banned satellite dishes are morally damaging, despite high-level calls for reform of the law.

Iranian authorities have destroyed 100,000 satellite dishes and receivers as part of a widespread crackdown against illegal devices they say "deviate morality and culture".

General Mohammad Reza Naghdi, the head of Iran's Basij militia, oversaw the destruction ceremony in Tehran on Sunday and warned of the impact that satellite television was having in the country.

"The truth is that most satellite channels... deviate the society's morality and culture," AFP news agency reported him as saying.

Read more: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/iran-destroys-100000-corrupting-satellite-dishes-160724202722493.html

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Iran destroys 100,000 'depraving' satellite dishes (Original Post) Little Tich Jul 2016 OP
Relgion is what is really depraving Matthew28 Jul 2016 #1
No, telling people what to think is really depraving. Igel Jul 2016 #21
For watching Fox "News" no doubt. Scuba Jul 2016 #2
Supports my thesis that organized religion is a net-negative for society. Snarkoleptic Jul 2016 #3
they not careful their equivalent generation to millenials will revolt and overthrow the govt... msongs Jul 2016 #4
They are on that path already: kentauros Jul 2016 #7
They tried that a few years ago. President Obama decided not to support them and the movement was Akicita Jul 2016 #17
Time to undo the "Islamic Revolution". romanic Jul 2016 #5
And it's headlong back to the Middle Ages for Iran. kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #6
There are MILLIONS of satellite dishes in Iran. MADem Jul 2016 #8
Hopefully, kentauros Jul 2016 #10
Hell, everybody sleeps on their roof anyway when the nights are cool and nice. MADem Jul 2016 #12
Those chimneys are also known as burj al hawwa, or wind towers. kentauros Jul 2016 #16
I am sure that nobody in Iran can burn a CD or has acess to the internet or a short wave radio Botany Jul 2016 #9
I knew an old lady who told me she used to get her ideas for MADem Jul 2016 #13
Why do they put up with that sht ? Rustyeye77 Jul 2016 #11
is this based on a religious or political interpretation? MariaThinks Jul 2016 #14
Sounds like a gop platform plank dembotoz Jul 2016 #15
Yeah they called them unscramblers here in the 1980s. Unlocked all the nasty channels. Dunno about Rex Jul 2016 #18
Boy, Islam is a strait jacket for everyone in the mideast. Kablooie Jul 2016 #19
Using religious dogma as a bludgeon The Wizard Jul 2016 #20

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
1. Relgion is what is really depraving
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jul 2016

To tell someone what to believe or they will be punished based on a religion is down right disgusting.

Igel

(35,390 posts)
21. No, telling people what to think is really depraving.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jul 2016

Whether it's the Inquisition, Mao's Little Red Book, Stalin's ever-changing Brief History, or Qaddhafi's Little Green Book.

Compliance isn't sufficient. You need to believe, and that warps your thinking.

It's nice and handy to split that kind of idea away from anything on the left. But many respected Stalin, Mao, and even Qaddhafi found numerous supporters on the left. Many progressives could trace their ideas back to the CPUSA, but don't like it. Even in the late '80s when I taught undergrad lower division Russian I had students in my class who wanted to learn the language because they admired the USSR.

Authoritarianism isn't just RW, but if we insist that it is then it helps us to overlook and pretend LW despotism can't exist.

Russia has a funny phenomenon called "nationalistic bol'shevism." Bol'shevism was international, and opposed to fascism. Yet the Natsbols, the national bolsheviks, are frequently every been as nationalistic as the most rabid Nazi ever was.

Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
3. Supports my thesis that organized religion is a net-negative for society.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jul 2016

Particularly when it's influence seeps into government.

msongs

(67,498 posts)
4. they not careful their equivalent generation to millenials will revolt and overthrow the govt...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jul 2016

its a country with a young population, many of whom would like to get rid of the religious overlords one might suppose.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
17. They tried that a few years ago. President Obama decided not to support them and the movement was
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:10 AM
Jul 2016

Brutally beaten down.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. There are MILLIONS of satellite dishes in Iran.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jul 2016

And there's one on the rooftop of every member of the majlis and the ulema.

This sounds to me like another one of their "FEAR FEAR FEAR" crackdown games. The more they push the Persian people underground, the better they get at going around those assholes. There will be a day of reckoning, and the Basiji will be first in line to get justice, I suspect.



kentauros

(29,414 posts)
10. Hopefully,
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:10 PM
Jul 2016

someone will teach them how to make large dishes through interferometry and small unobtrusive dishes linked together.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. Hell, everybody sleeps on their roof anyway when the nights are cool and nice.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jul 2016

Some people even make a little garden up there. Stash the thing amongst the plants and mini trees. Paint it to blend in with plants or what-have-you.

A lot of private homes have a sky-light-ish thing that is designed to do a kind of chimney-effect thing to woosh the hot air up out of the house to make the swamp cooler work better (it's quite dry there and the swamp coolers do work pretty well). One could just stick the dish in the skylight and it would be outta sight, outta mind.

Anyone having a Squish dish would be in better shape, too--those are easier to conceal:



http://www.sqish.co.uk/gallery.php


kentauros

(29,414 posts)
16. Those chimneys are also known as burj al hawwa, or wind towers.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jul 2016

They both catch wind and help pull out the heat indoors as well as work through solar power to create that convection action. This architect (John Lockerbie) has studied ways of cooling in desert countries, including the use of wind towers.

I was also thinking along the lines of stashing dishes in foliage or painting them to blend into their surroundings. Never heard of the Sqish, but it's a great idea. Notice, too, that it's a flat panel. The technology advanced to that many years ago, but I can only guess that maybe they aren't good enough for HD and why we don't seem them replacing dishes here. Not that getting HD is a 'requirement' to getting satellite-tv, though it has become that in our current society. Over there, I'd say it doesn't matter.

Also, my educated guess on using either these panels or traditional dishes connected in large arrays would allow one to download and upload higher data rates. That is just a guess, but the advantage of a VLA is to effectively create a large-diameter dish, where the signals of each smaller dish is compared and sampled for the best possible overall signal reception. If all of your neighbors' dishes are connected, all would share in the benefits of that arrayed set of dishes

Botany

(70,643 posts)
9. I am sure that nobody in Iran can burn a CD or has acess to the internet or a short wave radio
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jul 2016

or smart phones or ...... Good luck at trying to stop people from watching or listening to
"banned stuff."

And right now no doubt somebody in Iran is building new satellite dishes too. No mater how hard they tried
by the 1960s and 1970s the old eastern european commie countries were all watching western TV, movies,
and listening to western music too. In the 198os I met an east german soldier who know more about
Michael Jackson and Madona they I did .... he could not understand why if I had the chance I never went to
a Madona or Jackson concert.

Islamic Cleric .... you must never watch this one movie .... Young person @ the mosque now has a
goal to watch that one movie.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. I knew an old lady who told me she used to get her ideas for
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jul 2016

nights out with her husband from the list of "Naughty Films" put out by the Catholic Church.

They also informed her reading lists--if they didn't like it, she was down at the bookstore putting down her cash!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. Yeah they called them unscramblers here in the 1980s. Unlocked all the nasty channels. Dunno about
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:56 AM
Jul 2016

how morally damaging it was - but it was not something we were allowed to watch as kids. I swear to God the Spice channel was the most flipped channel when parents entered the room. And we had a remote, so no running to the TV.

300 channels but you had to turn the dish to the right satellite.

Kablooie

(18,647 posts)
19. Boy, Islam is a strait jacket for everyone in the mideast.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:02 AM
Jul 2016

Iran, the Taliban, Saudi Arabia, ISIS all are tyrants. How can such an extreme version of religion take hold of so many populations?

The Wizard

(12,556 posts)
20. Using religious dogma as a bludgeon
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:27 AM
Jul 2016

will fail, and in due time the people will undermine the religious state and it will collapse. You can't effectively govern without popular support.

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