APNewsBreak: 2 Vermont DNC delegates replaced due to gender

[NWCorona]

Source: AP

A complaint to the Democratic National Convention says two male Vermont delegates were replaced by women in the name of “gender balance” and without adequate due process.

The complaint, filed by 21 Vermont Democrats, says the national party this month ordered the state party to replace Vermont Sen. Tim Ashe and party stalwart Ken Dean although Dean and Ashe were elected June 11.

Dean, Ashe and their female replacements support Sen. Bernie Sanders over presumptive presidential nominee Hillary Clinton

Read more: http://wtop.com/elections/2016/07/apnewsbreak-2-vermont-dnc-delegates-replaced-due-to-gender/

[pnwmom]

1. The question is why it wasn't gender balanced in the first place, as the rules required. nt

[NWCorona]

2. That's a great question! If so

The rules should have been followed from jump to avoid these optics.

[pnwmom]

4. Apparently they were hoping to get a waiver from the rules. But why was this ever

allowed in the first place, when they had women Bernie supporters ready and willing to take their place?

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2016/07/11/gender-imbalance-shakes-up-vermont-democratic-delegation

[NWCorona]

6. I can agree with that.

Thanks for the link

[zazen]

3. this ongoing trivialization of feminism as cover for corporate liberalism is sickening n/t

[Bradical79]

20. I'm not sure what you mean by "corporate liberalism" -nt

[runaway hero]

21. neoliberalism, etc.

[Recursion]

22. "etc." doesn't make the vacuous term "neoliberalism" any more clear (nt)

[runaway hero]

23. Understood.

Didn't want to spill pasta while I'm eating tonight...

[7962]

5. No need to vote, we'll TELL you who to install!!!

Why not just cancel the voting and save money of you're going to ignore the outcomes

[pnwmom]

9. They're not ignoring the outcomes. Two women Bernie supporters will replace two men.

The rules call for an gender-balanced group of pledged delegates (though the supers are almost all men) and they were hoping for a waiver. They didn't get one. Big deal.

[LanternWaste]

18. Your righteous indignation and dramatic passion seems to be getting in the way

Your righteous indignation and dramatic passion seems to be getting in the way of your awareness of both the facts and the context.

However, I do realize righteous indignation is trendy and popular... and much easier than a studied analysis of facts presented; and looks better on commercially branded t-shirts, as well (if the appropriate typeface is used, that is)!

[7962]

19. Righteous indignation is a requirement of membership to DU!

[red dog 1]

7. Strange story!

"Executive director Conor Casey of the Vermont Democratic Party said Thursday the state party was trying to follow national party requirements."?

WHAT "national party requirements"?

[pnwmom]

10. The superdelegates are heavily male, because Congress is heavily male.

But the party rules call for the pledged delegates to be gender and race balanced. And there were plenty of women Bernie supporters offering to be delegates, so there was no reason to choose men instead.

[displacedtexan]

11. See page 7 of the rules.

http://www.demrulz.org/wp-content/files/12.15.14_2016_Delegate_Selection_Documents_Mailing_-_Rules_Call_Regs_Model_Plan_Checklist_12.15.14.pdf

C. State Delegate Selection Plans shall provide for equal division between delegate men and delegate women and alternate men and alternate women within the state’s entire convention delegation. For purposes of this rule, the entire delegation includes all pledged delegates and alternates and unpledged delegates (including unpledged party leaders and elected official delegates).

[liberal N proud]

8. I bet there is more to the story

There always is.

[The Second Stone]

12. This is a long standing rule

and it should come as no surprise. If they want to change it, they need to start now for 2020.

[pnwmom]

14. And why should they change it? Men are HEAVILY overrepresented in the state's super delegates,

so why can't women have more of the pledged delegate slots?

[Lancero]

13. POMS

[BainsBane]

16. Anyone who has participated in delegate elections knows gender balance is required

and in my state that includes non-binary gender identity.

I myself would have liked for more women among the Clinton delegates, but the rules didn't allow it, no more than they allow this.

[philosslayer]

17. Good

Glad this was enforced.