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Bucky

(54,094 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:59 AM Jul 2016

Carlson: Roger Ailes’ Verbal Harassment Was ‘Continuous’

Source: Talking Points Memo


“I just wanted to stand up for myself, first and foremost,” Carlson told The New York Times in a Tuesday interview at her lawyer Nancy Erika Smith’s New Jersey home. “And I wanted to stand up for other women who maybe faced similar circumstances.”

The former “Real Story” host stood by the allegations laid out in the lawsuit, claiming that Ailes made sexual advances towards her, oversaw a culture of sexual harassment at Fox News and fired her because she refused him and complained about her treatment at the network.

She told the Times that she kept quiet about the “continuous” offensive language she heard from Ailes because of the hierarchical structure of the network.

“Everyone knew how powerful Roger Ailes was,” she said. “I certainly felt intimidated by that.”



Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gretchen-carlson-says-roger-ailes-harassment-continuous



Ailes = Cosby

By which we can infer that there are lots more men out there still doing this, using their power and access and position to commit repeated assaults on women. As a father, as a friend, I worry about this continually.
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Carlson: Roger Ailes’ Verbal Harassment Was ‘Continuous’ (Original Post) Bucky Jul 2016 OP
And is Carlson Cosby, too? The OTHER Cosby? Rita? MADem Jul 2016 #1
Rita seemed to be UpInArms Jul 2016 #11
She's a very brave person for standing up and leaving her career. Not many people can afford that. Sunlei Jul 2016 #2
I agree Evergreen Emerald Jul 2016 #4
He's an ugly creep alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #3
Shocked... czarjak Jul 2016 #5
When I saw "Carlson" in the headline BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #6
I wonder if it ever occurred to Gretchen . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #7
She likely is still on that side. Where she will remain, in all likelihood. closeupready Jul 2016 #8
Can Only Wonder What The Right Wing Women He Has Hired Now Did To Get There billhicks76 Jul 2016 #9
Poor Tucker. sofa king Jul 2016 #10
I hope that it's true what she says about Ailes... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #12
Yeah she needs to ruin her career because her coworkers would not back her up, right? bettyellen Jul 2016 #13
She didn't ruin her career... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #14
It would likely have ruined her career earlier - when she made the allegations. That's how this shit bettyellen Jul 2016 #15
Fuck you Gretchen... czarjak Oct 2016 #16

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. And is Carlson Cosby, too? The OTHER Cosby? Rita?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jul 2016

She was 'let go' from Fox right around the time Carlson was hired....and she apparently had committed the crime of getting a bit older and thicker, as folks often do in conjunction with aging.

Be interesting to ask Rita if she ever took shit from Ailes.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. She's a very brave person for standing up and leaving her career. Not many people can afford that.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:22 AM
Jul 2016

Evergreen Emerald

(13,071 posts)
4. I agree
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:03 AM
Jul 2016

Most women put up with it and smile. I did for years when my boss would tell me he liked the size of my breasts and suggested the type of tops I should wear. That was not in the too distant past.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
3. He's an ugly creep
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:29 AM
Jul 2016

God, all the young women that have to work around shitheads like that! It's really fucking horrifying.

BumRushDaShow

(130,028 posts)
6. When I saw "Carlson" in the headline
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jul 2016

I first thought it was referencing "Tucker Carlson" throwing Ailes under the bus. But then realized the story was about Gretchen.

I hope this whole issue gets some legs though because enough is enough. There are alot of what we used to call "dirty old men" still out there.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
7. I wonder if it ever occurred to Gretchen . .
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jul 2016

that there might just be a connection between misogyny and
Right-wingedness?

She was on the wrong side - and I wonder if she still is.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. She likely is still on that side. Where she will remain, in all likelihood.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:51 PM
Jul 2016

It's funny how that works - many people who build careers doing questionable things are often the same people who LATER criticize OTHERS for performing those same dubious deeds. It's so common as to be a cliché.

While the issue bringing her name to the forefront of people's minds today isn't HER behavior, my point (and your point, I think) is she spent years putting a candy-coated glaze on conservative and even misogynistic ideas. Yet, now that it's about her, she wants to be treated fairly.

She SHOULD be treated fairly, but in light of her history, she is not a woman about whom I want to spend much energy talking about or thinking about - she's a big girl, as they say, and can take care of herself. Just as Sarah Palin did.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
9. Can Only Wonder What The Right Wing Women He Has Hired Now Did To Get There
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jul 2016

They are particularly offensive in their vacuous viciousness.

 

StraightRazor

(260 posts)
12. I hope that it's true what she says about Ailes...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jul 2016

and I tend to believe that it certainly is, but the flip-side is that she is making these allegations now because her contract wasn't renewed and she's pissed.

I kinda wish she had left and made this public when she was fully employed as a way of protesting the way she was being treated rather than waiting and appearing to be a disgruntled employee.

Time will tell if the allegations end up being true or not - especially if more women come forward with claims of abuse at the hands of Ailes and other executives at Fox.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. Yeah she needs to ruin her career because her coworkers would not back her up, right?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jul 2016

So easy. I could have sued bosses- but this shit is so hard to prove and you'd never get hired again.

 

StraightRazor

(260 posts)
14. She didn't ruin her career...
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jul 2016

when she made the allegations she had no career, her contract wasn't renewed. That's the point I was trying to make, that it would have been much more impactful (and believable) if she did in fact 'ruin her career' to make it known that Ailes abused her.

Now, she just sounds like a disgruntled employee.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
15. It would likely have ruined her career earlier - when she made the allegations. That's how this shit
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 01:02 AM
Jul 2016

Works. Some times that's a difficult thing to do- especially when you know how pervasive the problem is in your industry. Very difficult to prove - more so against a powerful man. I would have gotten out of my industry altogether at a firstly young age if I had sued. It's easy for outsiders to say sue, the reality is much harder.

czarjak

(11,339 posts)
16. Fuck you Gretchen...
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:02 AM
Oct 2016

You were in lock-step with the deplorables. I watched, you hypocritical know-nothing.

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