Porn is a ‘public health crisis’ and a menace, GOP committee says in platform draft

[DonViejo]

Source: Yahoo News

Liz Goodwin
Senior National Affairs Reporter
July 11, 2016

Republican delegates unanimously adopted an amendment to their draft platform Monday morning that called pornography “a public health crisis” and a “public menace” that is destroying lives.

The language went further in its condemnation of porn than the 2012 GOP platform, which condemned child pornography and encouraged the enforcement of obscenity and pornography laws.

“Pornography, with his harmful effects, especially on children, has become a public health crisis that is destroying the life of millions. We encourage states to continue to fight this public menace and pledge our commitment to children’s safety and wellbeing,” the amendment stated.

Mary Forrester, a delegate from North Carolina, offered the amendment during the Republican National Convention subcommittee meeting on healthcare, education and crime. The full body votes on the platform changes Monday and Tuesday. Before the amendment, the platform’s section on porn read that the Internet must not become “a safe haven” for sex offenders. The section encouraged the “energetic prosecution of child pornography.”

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Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/rnc-platform-draft-porn-000000329.html

[stopbush]

1. Republicans should know as they and Xians are by far the largest segments

of porn consumers.

[villager]

3. But remember that shredding children with bullets, is no public health crisis at all. nt

[CincyDem]

5. Exactly the sentiment I wanted to express but...

... I couldn't find a constructive way to say it without a fist full of nasty NSFW language.

[wordpix]

97. of course, the party of small gov. only wants gov. in the bedrooms

and in women's wombs.

[tonyt53]

2. And what states have the highest percentage of porn viewers? Solid GOP states of course.

[AntiBank]

54. these seem to show otherwise

http://www.westword.com/news/photos-us-states-that-watch-the-most-porn-per-capita-and-colorados-top-ten-finish-5903977

Number 10:

California: 144 pageviews per capita

Blue

Number 9:

Georgia: 145 pageviews per capita

Red

Number 8:

Virginia: 146 pageviews per capita

Blue

Number 7:

New York: 148 pageviews per capita

Blue

Number 6:

Hawaii: 149 pageviews per capita

Blue


Number 5:

Massachusetts: 153 pageviews per capita

Blue

Number 4:

Colorado: 159 pageviews per capita

Blue

Number 3:

Illinois: 161 pageviews per capita

Blue

Number 2:

Nevada: 166 pageviews per capita

Blue

Number 1:

Kansas: 194 pageviews per capita

Red



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and this one

http://www.bustle.com/articles/21054-the-10-states-that-watch-the-most-pornand-what-it-means-for-politics

So, of the top 10 states for porn consumption, we’ve got eight blue (Nevada, Illinois, Colorado, Massachusetts, Hawaii, New York, Virginia, and California) and two red (Kansas and Georgia); the bottom 10 states for amount of porn consumption are the exact opposite, with eight being red (Arkansas, Idaho, West Virginia, South Dakota, Wyoming, South Carolina, Montana, and Utah) and two blue (Maine and New Mexico).

there is this one too

http://people.hbs.edu/bedelman/papers/redlightstates.pdf

snip

I am sure there are other studies out there

[Bernardo de La Paz]

59. Ha! Ha!! Kansas and California at the opposite ends of the spectrum. Again! . . . nt

[mopinko]

63. does this include the dark web?

where the worst of the worst are found?

[Monk06]

80. Kansas: "That ain't porno, that be home schoolin ejucatshun vidyos"

[Night Watchman]

90. This is the state that reelected Brownback.....

..because his Dem opponent once went to a strip club!

[Yukari Yakumo]

81. It's not just an American thing

I remember somewhere that more conservative countries tend to consume more porn than the more liberal countries.

The top consumers: The non-secular Mideast and the Far East.

[Warren DeMontague]

89. Yeah, 95% to 97% or something.

But actually it's highest percentage of people who haven't figured out that they can get it for free, and are still paying for it.

[MADem]

4. Aren't republicans the biggest consumers of the product??? nt

[PJMcK]

16. Nah, it's me

Just kidding... sort of. (wink)

[MADem]

22. Ha ha--you're not calling it a menace or a threat, though!!! nt

[snooper2]

23. She probably found her husbands stash last winter and has to lash out somehow LOL

[guillaumeb]

6. What about the true pornography of war and violence?

What about hunger?

Racial intolerance?

[jtuck004]

7. Why does North Carolina hate Utah, our porn capital?

“Pornography, with his harmful effects, especially on children..." <- It ain't the kids watchin' it, sweetheart.


his?

[63splitwindow]

8. Another opportunity to blame the Chinese!!!...

...
...
The origins of Chinese erotica and pornography can be traced way back into antiquity. Though remnants have been found dating from as early as the 1st century, production of erotic artwork appears to have properly flourished around the 10th century and reached its peak during the late Ming Dynasty (17th century).
...
..."

http://www.danwei.com/a-brief-history-of-chinese-porn/

[Zambero]

9. Tell that to their Congressional candidates

Namely the guy who linked his favorite porn sites to his own (oops) campaign website.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. With all the crap that's been going down lately, they're worried about PORN?

Oppose kiddie porn, yes. Don't worry about the rest of it. And start paying attention to the stuff that really matters, like cops who kill people for no good reason.

[HeartoftheMidwest]

25. GOP modus operandi :

Deflect and project.

[Akicita]

27. I would put kiddie porn right up there with cops killing people for no reason as far as stuff that

really matters that we should start paying attention to.

[underpants]

46. Remember in 2001 Ashcroft had pot and porn on his list of priorities

well ahead of terrorism. If memory serves terrorism was #47.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

61. and he had one of the statues

covered up because it was a bare breasted female. Yeah, he's not got a problem!

[wordpix]

98. porn, ending abortion, Benghazi and Hillary's emails, that's what gov. is for

in the RWnut mind

[John Poet]

105. I think those killer cops don't watch enough porn...

[edbermac]

11. is gun porn included in the platform?

Happiness is a warm gun (Happiness bang, bang, shoot, shoot)
Happiness is a warm gun, mama (Happiness bang, bang, shoot, shoot)
When I hold you in my arms (Oo-oo oh yeah)
And I feel my finger on your trigger (Oo-oo oh yeah)
I know nobody can do me no harm (Oo-oo oh yeah)

Because happiness is a warm gun, mama (Happiness bang, bang, shoot, shoot)
Happiness is a warm gun, yes it is (Happiness bang, bang, shoot, shoot)
Happiness is a warm, yes it is, gun (Happiness bang, bang, shoot, shoot)
Well, don't you know that happiness is a warm gun, mama? (Happiness is a warm gun, yeah)

[chapdrum]

12. Textbook definition of "a public menace" is

the Republican Party.

[Chasstev365]

13. GOP Created Childhood Poverty is a Bigger Health Crisis

I don't need a report to tell me that giving billionaires more money than they could ever possibly spend at the expensive of children going to bed hungry ever night in America is immoral.

I wish these people had an ounce of intelligence before they opened their self-righteous mouths!

[L. Coyote]

14. Meanwhile, lead in school drinking water, not so much. Idiots.

[PJMcK]

15. What do the Republicans propose?

As usual, their platform is long on sentiment and short on practicality. Just how will they "fight this public menace?"

The Supreme Court has already ruled on printed porn. But the internet is not the same as a girly magazine in a plain, brown wrapper. Their platform calls on "...states to continue to fight..." How? By blocking the internet with various filters? Doesn't net neutrality, not to mention technology, make that impossible? And how are they planning to fund this fool's errand?

As posters above have noted, red states are curiously the largest accessors of porn. How will those voters feel when they can't log onto xHamster or bisexualmantube? More importantly, what do they even mean? Already, most schools and many recreational facilities already have filters in place. What specifically do they have in mind?

More importantly, how stupid are the GOP? They consistently reduced very complex issues to nonsense with their attempts at reframing facts. For example, their opposition to porn is based on their belief that ALL porn leads to child pornography, child abuse and pedophilia. They frequently take a similar perspective with LGBTQ rights, that allowing same-sex marriage leads to pedophilia and bestiality.

Children's rights and their safety are very important issues but they are not going to find solutions by violating the Constitution they claim to love.

Republicans: vote for us because we'll promise you anything for your vote (but we won't deliver anything, 'cause that would require, you know, work).

[underpants]

48. We could ban it from the Internet

but then if we did that the Internet would crash and we like the Internet. The market hath spoken.

[Moostache]

53. Why do Republicans hate the free market? (n/t)

[Wraith20878]

77. I'm fairly certain

I'm fairly certain that if we removed porn from the Internet, there would only be one website left. And it would be called "bring back the porn!"
~Dr. Cox, Scrubs

[George II]

17. This may be a hint that Giuliani is a front runner for VP. That was...

....one of his first "quality of life" issues when he became mayor. When the republican platform committee goes after squeegie guys we KNOW that Giuliani is going to be Trump's pick.

[ProfessorGAC]

94. I Keep Hearing That About RG and Christie

But, i don't see how an all New York or NY/NJ ticket flies in the south or southwest.

Roosevelt picked at least one midwesterner, Eisenhower (midwest) picked a Californian, Kennedy picked a Texan, Johnson picked a Minnesotan, Nixon picked guys from Maryland and Michigan, Reagan picked an old money East Coaster, and so on.

Even Silverspoon and Cheney were from Texas and Wyoming which are a thousand miles apart and very different state cultures.

I can't see the red states in the south going for an all New York metro ticket.

[George II]

95. I agree. And that's why I don't think either Sanders or Warren should be chosen. Both...

....are from states bordering Clinton's state and in fact those states are only about 100 miles and 50 miles from where Clinton lives.

As for baby bush and Cheney, that's another scam that was perpetrated on the American people. Cheney had been living in Texas for a long time leading up to bush's choice of him. He snuck up to Wyoming the night before being announced as VP choice and registered in Wyoming.

They started lying to us even before either being formally designated republican candidates.

[ProfessorGAC]

96. You Know, I Forgot About That

Cheney was a rep from Wyoming, but he ran Haliburton from Houston.

Duh, on me. Thanks

[muntrv]

104. Clinton chose Gore, neighboring states.

[IronLionZion]

18. Tell them that position is shared by many feminists

and see how quickly they change it

[4 real]

19. Pretty rich coming from

The party who's nominee was featured on the cover of playboy

[vkkv]

20. I didn't think ANY GOP'STER had a SENSE OF HUMOR !

[bucolic_frolic]

21. Is this plank written for the guy with small

well, you know

[NaturalHigh]

24. Isn't there a certain DU contingent that believes the same thing?

I remember the porn wars from times past. They'll heat up again some time after the election is over.

[Blue_Adept]

31. I hope so

they were always fun since you saw a lot of folks that were just so far off the base as to be utterly hilarious.

[NaturalHigh]

34. Yeah, there were some good times.

Don't worry, they'll be back. If nothing else, the swimsuit edition Sports illustrated will start another flame war. You could start a drinking game counting the number of times the words "patriarchy" and "misogyny" are used in those threads.

[Blue_Adept]

35. This year's SI thread was weak, unfortunately

The primaries really killed the energy of that one.

[NaturalHigh]

36. Exactly. The primary flame wars sucked the energy out of everything else.

[Blue_Adept]

37. Yup

The porn threads are also so much fun simply because all the things that my partners and I engage in are abhorrent to many here, so I don't even have to play devil's advocate.

[NaturalHigh]

41. I don't even like porn.

To me, it's one of those live and let live sort of things. I don't like it, but that doesn't mean I care if you like it. The hardcore porn-ban types hate any opinions that differ from theirs with equal zeal.

[Yavin4]

42. "all the things that my partners and I engage in are abhorrent to many here"

Do tell.

[Blue_Adept]

44. LOL

Hell, during one of the threads there was a big subthread about the evils of oral. I don't remember what got deleted at the time for taking site standards too far in the wrong direction. There was a lot of equating certain acts with bestiality and all that as well. It was comical. The BDSM side is what really gest people worked up the most though. Anything with bondage and pain is just viewed as utterly wrong by a lot around these parts.

[Yavin4]

45. If oral is evil, we'll all be in hell.

BDSM doesn't work for me personally, though I do see the appeal of it. I just don't get spending money on a lot of stuff just to have sex.

[Blue_Adept]

55. Some aspects of previous threads felt like missionary-only was the only acceptable thing

[Warren DeMontague]

91. You know what? I suspect it's like cycling.

You can spend hundreds of dollars on riding suits and gloves and fancy gear, or you can just jump on a bike and ride.

A helmet is not a bad idea, though.

[LongTomH]

56. Republicans think 'oral sex' means talking about it!!!

[John Poet]

106. 'Hurts so good!'

Must have been the same people protesting the John Cougar concert....

[maxsolomon]

26. Let's have the CDC study all "Public Health Crises"

Pr0n, Guns, Swimming Pools, Jarts...

Let the chips fall where they may.

[Akicita]

28. Good idea.

[CanonRay]

29. But firearms that kill dozens are okeydokey

[7962]

30. I dont know, I think i feel pretty good

[truthisfreedom]

32. Watch out, every time they select a new target

they end up with a bunch of republicans getting caught for involvement of some kind.

[ShrimpPoboy]

33. Theyre right in a broad sense

But it's a cultural problem, not a legal one.

And considering the number of other problems the GOP ignores or aggravates it's hard to take them seriously on the few issues they have correct.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

38. No they're not.

People have sex. People like watching people have sex. What adults choose to do or consume in their own bedrooms isn't a problem.

[zazen]

83. Yes, they are right. Lots of research indicates it's harmful. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

88. No

They're not.

[elleng]

39. "I'll know it when I see it."

Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184 (1964), was a United States Supreme Court decision handed down in 1964 involving whether the state of Ohio could, consistent with the First Amendment, ban the showing of the Louis Malle film The Lovers (Les Amants), which the state had deemed obscene.

Nico Jacobellis, manager of the Heights Art Theatre in the Coventry Village neighborhood of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, was convicted and fined $2,500 by a judge of the Cuyahoga County Court of Common Pleas for exhibiting the film, and his conviction was upheld by the Supreme Court of Ohio.

The Supreme Court reversed the conviction by ruling that the film was not obscene and so was constitutionally protected. However, the Court could not agree as to a rationale, yielding four different opinions from the majority. No opinion, including the two dissenting ones, had the support of more than two justices. The decision was announced by William J. Brennan, but his opinion was joined only by Justice Arthur Goldberg.

Justice Hugo Black, joined by Justice William O. Douglas, reiterated his well-known view that the First Amendment does not permit censorship of any kind. Chief Justice Earl Warren, in dissent, decried the confused state of the Court's obscenity jurisprudence and argued that Ohio's action was consistent with the Court's decision in Roth v. United States and furthered important state interests. Justice John Marshall Harlan II also dissented; he believed that states should have "wide, but not federally unrestricted" power to ban obscene films.

The most famous opinion from Jacobellis, however, was Justice Potter Stewart's concurrence, holding that the Constitution protected all obscenity except "hard-core pornography." Stewart wrote, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobellis_v._Ohio

[RKP5637]

40. GOP, what ignorant F'en fools. They should know, they consume the most. But kids

killed by firearms, police, gays and everyone, oh, I guess that's not crisis. The GOP is such a brain dead bunch.

[SansACause]

43. If by "porn" they mean "guns"...

Then yes.

[Initech]

47. Aren't republicans the largest consumers of porn?

And hookers, and blow, and prostitutes, and child porn, and kinky sex fetishes... I could go on and on!

[seabeckind]

49. Usual BS dog whistle stuff.

Already lots of laws about kiddie porn. Lots of prosecutions and investigations.

The difficulty is that the porn is on the darknet.

(Cue Robert Preston to sing about Trouble in River City)

[Vinca]

50. Are they sure they didn't mean "guns?" Porn doesn't seem nearly as bad as a public health crisis.

If it's a crisis at all.

[beachbumbob]

51. In conservatives states porn use is rampant....I guess they declaring

Themselves to be a public menace finally....lol

[bigwillq]

52. Porn is awesome.

Child porn is not.

But porn between two consenting adults is fine by me.

[RandySF]

67. Just two? :)

[c588415]

74. I dont understand why the Gop hates smut.

[LongTomH]

57. Historically, porn in various forms has always been at the forefront of each new media.

I've read that printed porn, mostly for the upper classes, began soon after Gutenberg's printing press became available; first, the Bible, and porn followed soon after.

As for porn for the upper classes, during the Victorian era, the upper classes were big consumers of porn; the prudery we associate with the Victorians was mostly from the upwardly mobile middle class, who aspired to respectability.

The other media? It's been reported that, pioneer filmmaker Georges Melies caught one of his employees using the equipment for a porn film. "The problem, monsieur, is always the story!"

Revenue from porn may have been a driver in development and acceptance of home videotape technology.

[wysi]

58. Is this 1985?

And has Ed Meese risen from the grave?

[Sunlei]

60. Republicans will take seriousy the Court case against their frontrunner?

[The Second Stone]

62. Substitute guns for porn in the following

In the early hours of Oct. 5, 2016, in Middletown, Indiana, the banging at the door woke John Smith from his sleep. He picked up his porn stash that he kept under the bed and headed for the door. Smith opened the door and, seeing the outline of a person, flung the porn at the person. No one was killed or injured.

On July 7, 2015, two friends left a party. When they returned, they knocked on the wrong door of a neighbor. Believing that a pizza delivery man and a pool boy were imminent, the frightened grabbed some lube and squirted a burst, hitting one of the confused party-goers in the chest. No one was killed or injured.

On April 9, 2015, John Jones woke to a noise. Assuming sexy times, he rushed to the kitchen with his dirty DVDs and began wanking. His wife was struck in the face and mentioned how sick to death she was of his encrusted DVDs. She was annoyed again, but uninjured and unkilled.

What do these and so many other cases have in common? They are the byproduct of a tragic myth: that porn watchers successfully use their collections to hurt their health and run rampant throughout the community on their way home from the store in a hurry to get back home and wank. Despite having nearly no academic support in public health literature, Republicans are against porn used in masturbation and want to arm every wanker in America with automatic weapons and ammo while outlawing their spank banks. Clearly, they have not thought through the consequences of a blue balls outbreak and whatever the female equivalent is. They ignore that the only true protection against the ready availability of porn on the internet and DVDs (does anyone use DVDs to wank anymore?) is to prevent wanking and get back to a wide stanced prohibition against sexuality by keeping it in public restrooms with Larry Craig where it belongs.

In 2008, Ashley Madison and Hugh Hefner, a porn model and pornographer respectively, conducted a random digital survey to establish the number of porn collections used as wanking materials in the United States. Although this was a random sample, they surveyed 5,000 individuals, asking them if they had porn and what they like to watch. The results are still being tabulated because the American public are pervs who really have a lot of porn that needs tabulating and cataloging, sometimes several times for a really hot clip. It was discovered that more men than women use visual porn, and that the younger used porn several times as often as older Americans, who sometimes did not use porn even a modest twice a day, and sometimes only three times a week. Nobody was killed or injured in these surveys, nor did any of the people surveyed know of anyone who was killed by the use of porn, nor anyone who went blind or grew hairy palms from jacking it.

[keithbvadu2]

64. Why red-state conservatives are the biggest porn hounds

Why red-state conservatives are the biggest porn hounds

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/19/why_red_state_conservatives_are_the_biggest_porn_hounds_partner/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

[keithbvadu2]

65. Enjoying Your Online Porn? Thank Newt Gingrich

Enjoying Your Online Porn? Thank Newt Gingrich

http://www.businessinsider.com/newt-gingrich-pornography-2011-12

[Hoppy]

66. They're damned right it is. Why right now, I have so many callouses and blist..... aw forget it.

[RandySF]

68. They can take my porn

After they pry it from my cold, red hand.

[truthisfreedom]

75. You may be doing it wrong.

Just sayin'.

[John Poet]

107. The right to bare arms, and other things...

It's in the First Amendment!

[TexasBushwhacker]

69. Are they going to tell Trump to take porn out of his hotels?

Porn is a big money maker for the hotel industry.

[keithbvadu2]

70. Didn't Romney make big bucks from porn in the hotels?

[TexasBushwhacker]

72. Yup. Marriott I believe n/t

[YOHABLO]

71. The GOP is a public health crisis and a public menace.

[chapdrum]

73. These may be the only reasons to

take them seriously.

[Warpy]

76. IOW, her hubby's yearly bill for it is WAY TOO HIGH

Biggest porn consuming states are red states, especially southern red states.

[yurbud]

78. now they've targeted the last demographic they haven't alienated: heterosexual white males

But they've got a lock on asexual, gun-loving Ayn Rand fans who are old enough to fondly remember Jim Crow.

They'll just have to rely strong turn out.

[KingCharlemagne]

92. Thread winner! - nt

[yurbud]

93. it's a gift.

[Wolf Frankula]

79. More from the Advocates of 'Small Government.'

A government small enough to fit in your bedroom, a government small enough to fit in your vagina. But a government too small to resist welfare ranchers stealing public lands, or billionaires poisoning workers.

The decency perverts are still with us.

Wolf

[DonCoquixote]

82. This is a hail mary pass

They know they need to get some inroad with women, and they feel that attacking porn will make some ladies go "well gee, I hate porn and Clinton is willing to take money from Larry Flynt."

[Frank Cannon]

86. Women hate porn?

I can tell you that every girlfriend I've had shopped for it and/or watched right along with me.


No, this is just another pathetic attempt to shore up the grim-lipped bedroom peekers that are already firmly in their camp anyway.

[Warren DeMontague]

87. Yeah, not on my planet.

[greymattermom]

84. Now that the trend is to legalize or at least decriminalize marijuana

the will need to figure out how to fill the for profit jails, right?

[greymattermom]

85. You know what's next...

required church attendance at churches approved by them

[sofa king]

99. A gift from the Gods!

The Republican Law of Hypocrisy suggests that Republican politicians will be overwhelmingly implicated in the pornography "crisis," with plenty of time for the press to run down the stories before election day.

I can hear the hard drives being wiped, already.

[Rex]

100. Porn bad, trigger locks bad, guns good, easy access to guns better!

Stupid fuckwads.

[trueblue2007]

101. they need to mind their own business.

[Android3.14]

102. I'm sure the hours of it the committee watched the night before were just awful

Stupid hypocrites.

[muntrv]

103. Does this include teabagging?