Sanders fails to oust Clinton backers from convention roles
Source: AP
Sanders' presidential campaign said in a letter Friday to the Democratic National Committee that Dannel Malloy, Connecticut's governor, and Barney Frank, a former Massachusetts congressman, couldn't be relied upon to perform their roles "fairly and capably while laboring under such deeply held bias."
Malloy is Platform Committee co-chairman. Frank is co-chairman of the Rules Committee.
Democratic officials responded to Sanders' request on Saturday, saying in a letter that Malloy and Frank were elected under party rules and that Sanders wasn't alleging any violations of that process.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a9a368ce98164309aa0a3f4cd74ad6c8/sanders-fails-oust-clinton-backers-convention-roles
They're treating him like he's the second place candidate or something...
valerief
(53,235 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)stopbush
(24,398 posts)Looks like the Bernie followers are applying Bernie Math principles to everything else.
George II
(67,782 posts)...the further behind they get.
For example, in the last week about 25 Superdelegates have come out for Clinton, 4 have come out for Sanders. And at least two have switched from Sanders to Clinton.
That's how to win the nomination - piss off everyone who's job it is to choose the nominee.
ananda
(28,895 posts)... Kerry and Gore refuesed to fight for the votes that were stolen from him.
I admire Sanders for fighting.
The problem is that he's fighting against a rigged system, which really isn't Democratic -- well, Democratic in name only.
The moderate Reeps have taken over our party, and they know how to rig the system with big money and lots of election shenanigans.
George II
(67,782 posts)....instead of just showing up, saying "I want to be the Democratic nominee", and then whine and complain about everything "they" are doing to him.
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)Sanders has been on the right side of history and working hard at it for many years.
George II
(67,782 posts)Gothmog
(145,839 posts)Botany
(70,639 posts)Benghazi = nothing
The contents of the emails = nothing
So now ... OMG her email account had a server.
Kerry had a bronze star, a silver star, and three purple hearts make his service as
something bad. HRC sent lots of emails and tweets as Sec. of state ..... make her
time as Sec. of state as something bad.
Whitewater was a money losing real estate deal and after years of investigation
it became about Bill Clinton lying about a b.j..
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)By the time November roles around, if Hillary is the nominee, enough Americans will believe that Hillary ishould not be president to insure her defeat.
Only 19 percent of Americans think she is trustworthy. When your numbers on honesty, a fundamental character trait, are that bad, you should nor run for president. Same goes for Trump.
Hillary is a poor choice for a candidate.
And on top of that, with the rigidity of the Party with regard to compromising on appointments to the convention committees with Bernie, the Democratic Party is practically kicking the many, many voters like me who support Bernie out of the Party.
The Democratic Party leadership is making a huge mistake that is likely to have terrible effects on the future of our country.
They know not what they do. If there unwillingness to welcome Bernie into the Party continues, they will split voters into three groups. They are splitting the Democratic Party and looking weak and frightened of Republicans and conservatixes.
It may feel god to a lot of Hillary supporters on DU to bash and exclude and ridicule Bernie and his supporters, but in the end, the Democratic Party and liberal, progressive politics will lose due t this moment of shortsightedness.
Progressive Democrats have been treated shabbily by the Democratic Party for a long time. The movement that Bernie is heading within the Democratic Party is not really new. It is just that it is now so frustrated and so tired of being taken for granted and expected to silently and reliably vote for bluedog, corporate Democrats that it is organizing in protest.
The Bernie voters are FDR Democrats who have found a leader. The Democratic Party will rue the day it fails to show them respect. Do you Hillary supporters really want a president Trump. Keeo gloating. Keep refusing admittance to Bernie supporters majorities in at least 20 states, and you will get your Trump presidency. Just keep it up and Trump will be yours.
Do you know what a Phyrric victory is? Because that may well be what Hillary supporters are looking at.
modestybl
(458 posts)... and they granted immunity to Bryan Pagliano, the guy who set up the email server in Clinton's house. Sanders doesn't bring it up because his goals go beyond just winning a nomination. But if Sanders had an equivalent FBI investigation going on in his Senate office, what do you think the HRC campaign would be doing with the? Particularly their dirty tricks specialist David Brock?
OregonBlue
(7,755 posts)lately is complain about the Democrats. He should have run as an independent.
modestybl
(458 posts)... obviously not thinking much before you spout off. He is trying to get the Dem Party to change course, which it desperately needs to do.
John K
(80 posts)Bernie is a symbiote - he is benefiting from hospitality of the Democratic Party, but he is not a very good house guest. He should pipe down and argue for his ideas. Stop the lawyering up on everything, it's beyond old.
modestybl
(458 posts)... and if he had, all of the HRC partisans would be screaming spoiler. Basically, HRC as a candidate sucks, despite all the PAC money, all the corporate money, the national and all of the state parties putting their thumbs on the scales for her, she still can't shrug off Sanders... plus, she will lose to Trump in the fall.
Don't know why the Dems want everyone to rally behind the person with historically high negatives, but the big money has spoken...
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Bernie has won Democratic primaries in 20 states thus far.
A lot of Democrats and a lot of Independents who lean Democratic, and most important, a lot of new and/or young voters who lean Democratic are supporting him.
Is the Democratic Party just too narrow-minded and frightened for its own good?
George II
(67,782 posts)modestybl
(458 posts)By your logic, the IRS isn't interested in Trump, just his tax returns...
George II
(67,782 posts)"Clintons critics jumped on Comeys words as proof that the FBI is on track to prosecute Clinton"
The FBI doesn't prosecute people, that's the job of prosecutors. When I reached that point, I stopped reading.
Why not try to find one that says the FBI is investigating her?
modestybl
(458 posts)... making my point.
George II
(67,782 posts)OwlinAZ
(410 posts)And the pro-Clinton ugliness and vitriol continues.
stopbush
(24,398 posts)anymore than they are investigating you.
modestybl
(458 posts)Comey didn't recognize the concept of "security review" ... they are investigating the situation concerning her e-mails...
But, I guess by your logic, the IRS isn't investigating Trump either... just his tax returns.
cstanleytech
(26,351 posts)handled on the email server setup to handle her email but they are not investigating her directly for any crime nor is there any indication that she committed one herself not unless she setup the server herself and deliberately failed to secure it.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)How is Hillary not under investigation by the FBI? Are the papers just dreaming it?
FarPoint
(12,481 posts)Well, he already lost...not making friends...Poor negotiation skills.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)if he were indeed negotiating anything.... or bullying. But that is another all-so-inclusive Hillary supporters' fantasy.
Pluvious
(4,339 posts)It's Hillary that needs to win over his millions and millions of supporting voters.
Her supporters keep chirping "look at the math,"
well we all need to do that, we must stop Trump !
"An eye for an eye" and we'll all be blind.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)If Bernie used super delegates to win (even though he says that Hillary doing that is wrong--but if he got the super delegates to vote him it's just feeling the bern. But the fact is she has several MILLION more voters than he does.
So, throw out those millions? Ignore those votes? He has lost. More people voted for her. That is the most simple definition of democracy. He didn't get the votes.
LeFleur1
(1,197 posts)was because he thinks disappointed Democrats will automatically vote for him if he's the nominee. He counts on their loyalty. However, just as his supporters are disappointed (with everything) the supporters of Clinton just might be so disappointed with his passive aggressive attitude, his insinuations, his back-handed attacks that they would not vote for Bernie. So he WOULD have to do some convincing of his own. He'd have to convince Democrats that he could sit in a room with heads of state and not begin interrupting, waving his finger around, and insulting them. He'd have to convince people he has some plans to do the things he professes are for our own good. AND he'd have to convince her supporters that a conscientious objector could become a commander in chief of the military. He'd have to convince us, who have been through the health care fight for years, that he could even bring forth single payer from congress and it wouldn't bankrupt voters. He'd have to show us how he is going to run colleges if students attend free. What would it cost? He certainly couldn't use his wife's expertise on college finance. He'd have to lay his plans bare and convince the Senate and House to go along with them. I wonder what his plans are?
MADem
(135,425 posts)Of course, there's probably nothing to it at all, nothing to see, move along, now, and Bernie doesn't have to worry about being charged with leaning on a bank president to give a loan to his wife--a bank president, fwiw, who won't answer questions about this from the press...but, hey, so long as there's an "investigation" out there, it's fair game, n'est pas? And of course, US Attorney Eric Miller will neither confirm nor deny if he's investigating the Senator--but he hasn't DENIED, now, has he?
I mean, that's the way DU has been playing these accusations, right? Innuendo, suspicions, "some people say?" There's not much in the way of "presumption of innocence" here when it comes to SOME candidates, is there?
I've seen dozens of posters on this site leap on Trey Gowdy's comments like they're dispositive, and eagerly cite some of the most disgusting and odious right wing sources without batting an eye, because anyone who gets annoyed about things like that is just being "partisan."
And hey, so many people here are "post partisan"--they don't care about the "establishment" Democratic Party so much, any more, so it's all good, yes?
The shoe sometimes will pinch like hell on the other foot. But when Vermont Public Radio and 7 Days--both of which have given Sanders Very Favorable Coverage down the years--bother to pick this story up and report on it, maybe, just maybe, one has to ask "Where there's smoke, is there a bit of fire?"
Ouch.
modestybl
(458 posts)...but they'll have to finish up the 2 investigations concerning HRC first.
MADem
(135,425 posts)not talking to the press.
FYI, they do not use non-specialized assets in either FBI or the Department of the Treasury to investigate these things. In sum, the experts on computer issues at the FBI are not the same guys who investigate things like bank fraud in a loan application (FBI's Financial Institution and Mortgage Fraud Division), or allegations of a public figure using undue influence to push or threaten a bank president into approving an unwise loan.
Thus, your deeply held concern about over-tasking is unfounded. I'm pretty sure they'll be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. That won't be hard duty, either--now is a great time to visit Vermont.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)And they probably are.
modestybl
(458 posts)... HRC's problems are with the FBI... orders of magnitude difference.
The bogus claim from the HRC camp is that Sanders hasn't had the negative scrutiny she has... well, obviously that's not the case. Looks like the Vermont Repubs have absolutely nothing on Sanders... I doubt for lack of trying.
MADem
(135,425 posts)a false statement or ask a US Attorney to prosecute where he or she knows there's no malfeasance. This is the case even if it's "Vermont Republicans" making the charges.
You do understand that this letter went to the US Attorney? Guess who investigates bank crimes on behalf of the US Attorney? That would be the FBI.
This isn't the "HRC Camp's" doing at all, either--there's no need. She will be the nominee, that is pretty much established.
This all started with Jane wanting millions of dollars for an expansion for a crappy little boutique college that was a) unaffordable and b) wrongheaded.
If her husband had a role in leaning on the bank and using his undue influence to pressure them into making a bad loan--and tellingly, the bank president refuses to answer questions from the media--then he's going to be called to answer. That is the charge, in essence.
As for scrutiny, Sanders still hasn't gotten any to this point. He's been very lucky. Of course, it doesn't matter anymore--he's not going to be the nominee.
If he decides to run in 2018, this business could hurt him, though.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)It hurts to see him become such a hypocrite.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)riversedge
(70,442 posts)Sanders just did it out of spit. Another attention getting stunt that FAILED!
Sanders fails to oust Clinton backers from convention roles
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-fails-to-oust-clinton-backers-from-convention-roles/2016/05/28/cd29b186-24fb-11e6-b944-52f7b1793dae_story.html?tid=ss_fb
By Associated Press May 28 at 1:44 PM
WASHINGTON Democratic officials have rejected Bernie Sanders request to remove two high-profile Hillary Clinton supporters from leadership positions at the partys summer convention.
Sanders presidential campaign said in a letter Friday to the Democratic National Committee that Dannel Malloy, Connecticuts governor, and Barney Frank, a former Massachusetts congressman, couldnt be relied upon to perform their roles fairly and capably while laboring under such deeply held bias.
Malloy is Platform Committee co-chairman. Frank is co-chairman of the Rules Committee.
Democratic officials responded to Sanders request on Saturday, saying in a letter that Malloy and Frank were elected under party rules and that Sanders wasnt alleging any violations of that process.
The DNC says it reviewed the challenge, found it failed to meet the criteria and we are compelled to dismiss it.....................
Grace Laine #HRC2016 ?@TAW3343 9m9 minutes ago
Barney Frank on Bernie Sanders.
Barney Frank
askeptic
(478 posts)it every time Sanders won a primary. And Frank used the word McCarthyism to describe Sander's criticism of Wall Street.
I certainly understand Sander's point that there just might be some bias. However, I expect they will discharge their duties fairly and impartially.
May 28, 2016, 10:23 am
Sanders wants to shake up Dem convention panels
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281595-sanders-wants-to-shake-up-dem-convention-panels
bjo59
(1,166 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)She referred to him as her TUTOR and her GUIDE.
She even pushed for him to sit in Kerry's seat pending the special election, after Kerry was named SECSTATE. The governor went another way, but make no mistake, she was backing him:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/275949-warren-frank-extraordinary-pick-for-interim-senator
Sen. Warren: Barney Frank would do 'extraordinary' job as interim senator
By Alexandra Jaffe
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) offered strong support for former Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) to act as interim senator if John Kerry (D-Mass.) is confirmed as secretary of State, calling him an "extraordinary" option for the seat.
During her mock swearing-in ceremony in Boston on Saturday mirroring her actual swearing-in on Capitol Hill on Jan. 3 Warren praised the man she referred to as "my tutor, my guide," according to the Boston Herald.
There is no one in or out of Washington who has worked harder on financial issues than Barney, she said. During the great financial crisis of our lifetime, Barney provided unparalleled insight and extraordinary leadership, resulting in landmark legislation.
She later told reporters that "if he is appointed to be a senator, I have no doubt that he will be extraordinary." ...
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)His colleagues DON'T support him.
modestybl
(458 posts)... now on the board of directors of Signature Bank...
Whose phone calls to members of Congress will be taken first? Whose concerns will be a priority? Yours? Regular citizens? Or Barney's, working at the behest of his new paymasters?
Exactly why the Dem Party has shrunk and people are disgusted with these corrupt politicians.
Beacool
(30,254 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,179 posts)Its so he knows the process will be fair.
I'm sure Hillary supporters would be up in arms if the Platform Committee co-chairman and the co-chairman of the Rules Committee were both avid, campaigning Bernie supporters. Would you even admit that?
It should have nothing to do with who is ahead of who at this point.
Thanks for reminding us of what an arrogant piece of pie Frank has become with that childish quote.
Tanei
(38 posts)Democratic primaries.
George II
(67,782 posts)kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)for god sake.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)was not a member of the Establishment. A "non-player" if you will. That's why it felt free to land where it did - and also hasn't landed on any other candidate's podium.
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)It landed at the clear water bottle, pecked at it to get to the water, then flew away when it realized it couldn't get to the water.
But don't let reality get in the way of your fantasy.
beastie boy
(9,556 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And to think I've been setting the traditional bird baths out to slake their thirsts. LOL Is there any particular brand of water they prefer?
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)But okay, you love that bird. And this was a SPECIAL SPECIAL Bernie-Bird, proving he is a...??
Or, maybe the bird just wanted a place to shit. Birds do that.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I have shared my home with anywhere from 17 to 4 pet parrots since 1984. That's INSIDE my house. Then there's the flocks of pigeons and doves (and lets not forget my 10 chickens) that live in our back yard.
There's also the 80-some hummingbirds that converge on our porch at dusk - not to mention the hordes of wild birds we feed and spend time observing. There's always the odd plastic bottle (some with water - some without) sitting about around here. And in our 27 years in this little corner of Eden, I've yet to witness a bird peck at a bottle in search of a drink.
Further, if you knew anything about birds, you'd know they don't "look" for a place to shit. When they have to go - they just go. Some parrots (we have one) can be potty trained with perseverance, but you knew all that.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Oooookay. Bye, now!
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)For some reason, they don't put bird baths in closed arenas.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)So.... there's been scientific studies done regarding songbirds trapped in arenas and their consequent quest for food and drink?
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)the same sorta logic that promotes Good Fracking? I could see that correlation.
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)Gothmog
(145,839 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Maybe unintentionally, but still, funny!
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)They've got a war hawk. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)And they ain't sayin.......nuttin
Kabesh!
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)deathrind
(1,786 posts)"The appearance of impropriety" used to have meaning.
Sadly that is no longer the case.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)And doesnt care that you know it
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)But his actions are puke
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)stopbush
(24,398 posts)That would include the super delegates, who are actually flipping from Sanders to Hillary these days.
Kokonoe
(2,485 posts)when the music starts.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Get it right!
riversedge
(70,442 posts)kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)Botany
(70,639 posts)The winners get to make the rules.
I hope both sides can now play nice. And for the love God atop posting
crap about Clinton and her emails. I swear to God a # of DUers are loving
to do Karl Rove's dirty work.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)and after all the attacks on bernie and all his supporters your crazy if you think there will be.
Clinton deserves all the shit thrown at her on the emails.
CLintons love to hang out with republicans so your candiate loves Karl rove as you proven on the swiftboating of bernie.
Botany
(70,639 posts).... a vote for Trump.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)which clintons have made very easy for me.
no place for liberals and anti-war people in Democratic party anymore.
it is corporist neocon party now.and as disabled american on social safety net Clinton will screw me over just as much as trump
would.
once she officially get snomination i leave DU as well as democratic party.
John K
(80 posts)If you are not going to vote, let those of us who will contest this election in peace. Sanders needs to stop causing all this noise and whining about process and convince Democrats that his ideas are the best ones. So far he has failed to do that.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)you say you don't need any bernie supporters.
You ignore all the issues and all so you can have a rpeublican light corporist and neocon who will slash social safety net to pay for more war and destroy working class with more trade deals.
She is already falling behind trump so good luck with that without many bernie supporters.
cstanleytech
(26,351 posts)if she should win rather than do what the small percentage of Bernie supporters who are irrational are advocating which is to do a Ralph Nader.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)More people voted for her. That's not her stealing or him being swiftboated. He lost.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)When Bernie fans are posting the exact same anti -Hillary crud the cave dwellers are, it makes you wonder.
Botany
(70,639 posts)greiner3
(5,214 posts)I guess they don't believe the Clinton slogan "love and kindness" either.
Laser102
(816 posts)Malloy on the team just as Bernie has the right to pick his team. This is beginning to look really bad for Bernie. The constant challenges will not alter the results. It's time for this to stop or his reputation will be toast. Maybe his supporters could help him with acceptance.
kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)what is supposed to be a fair and even-handed process to select a nominee?
Nothing is beginning to look bad for Bernie.
His reputation will be fine.
Maybe you guys are the ones in trouble right now and you're projecting your frustration away from
your totally flawed and corrupt candidate.
jmowreader
(50,589 posts)Smoke-filled rooms are no longer used.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Unfair is when the person who didn't get the votes throws the game up in the air because he joined a game whose rules he didn't like.
liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)I'd pull out while the proud part was still intact.
liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)Then because I didn't succumb to The Bern, I get ridiculed for my username? You are about the 5th BS supporter who had problems with it, the last 4 were hidden.
Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but okay then it rather says all we need know if the DNC is backing him
George II
(67,782 posts)MFM008
(19,834 posts)Response to MFM008 (Reply #32)
Post removed
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)TeamPooka
(24,292 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Because Bernie Sanders has be caucusing with gems for decades.
TeamPooka
(24,292 posts)I think the party would be much further left on policy if hard core leftists like Bernie had been involved all along, you know, the way the Tea Party took over the GOP.
My dream is all the Sanders supporters get involved with the party and move it left rather than complain they didn't get their way this time and quit.
Gothmog
(145,839 posts)I love the DNC's response to this rather lame and silly challenge http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-convention-allies-223685
"Both Governor Malloy and Representative Frank were elected by the Executive Committee of the Democratic National Committee on January 22, 2016, pursuant to the Call for the 2016 Democratic National Convention, Article VII(F)(I)(the "Call" ," the chairs wrote in response. "Your challenge does not allege that there was any other cognizable violation of the Call in the conduct of their elections, the Delegate Selection Rules for the 2016 Democratic National Convention, or any other rule or regulation of the Democratic National Committee in their selection."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-convention-allies-223685#ixzz49z3mP4zH
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penndragon69
(788 posts)But is this any surprise to ANY person
with a functioning brain ? The system is rigged
and the Clintons are behind the
curtain, pulling the strings !
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)The system is rigged and the Clintons are behind the curtain, pulling the strings.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Remember, when the Clintons had so much power they were stealing the election from Obama? Oh, wait, that didn't happen and was just made up crap to cause disharmony with the dems.
beastie boy
(9,556 posts)perform their roles "fairly and capably while laboring under such deeply held bias."
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)beastie boy
(9,556 posts)Squinch
(51,083 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)How to work with others. I like Malley and he has very good reasons to be behind sensible gun laws and was very close to a real tragedy.
OnDoutside
(19,986 posts)Gothmog
(145,839 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)It's becoming crystal clear why he has no support from Senate or Congressional Dems.
Plus - he already lost the nomination due to FEWER VOTES!!!