Alan Grayson Blows Up at Harry Reid in Meeting: 'Say My Name'
Source: MSNBC
During a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill Wednesday, liberal firebrand Rep. Alan Grayson angrily confronted Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid over the senator's decision to back a different candidate in Florida's Senate race, according to three sources in the room. Reid fired back by expressing his "low opinion" of Grayson.
The outburst prompted a Reid staffer in the room to bring in the senator's security detail, who stood inside the door during the rest of the meeting as a precaution.
Reid met with members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, but when Grayson was called on to speak, he repeatedly asked Reid if the senator knew his name.
"Yes, Alan," Reid replied.
"Say my name," Grayson insisted more than once.
Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/alan-grayson-confronts-harry-reid-meeting-say-my-name-n572361
Renew Deal
(81,893 posts)And that's being nice
houston16revival
(953 posts)very accurate
Such temperament does not get one anywhere
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)kevink077
(365 posts)Like him or not, Florida is s conservative leaning "purple state". If he is the nominee the dems are handing a critical seat to the republicans. Grayson is a wasted talent due to odd behavior and questionable dealings. Too bad. His "die quickly" speech was epic (and true).
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Renew Deal
(81,893 posts)PDittie
(8,322 posts)fbc
(1,668 posts)mdbl
(4,976 posts)just like he's been for the last 8 years. Or has it been 12? Time flies when you're having fun.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Heisenberg.
greyl
(22,990 posts)I don't think this was like that situation in Breaking Bad.
Many of Grayson's posts here leave the impression that he's a disconnected dickhead.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Has no relevance to anything.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Some staffer posts his fundraising emails here under his name.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)"Yo Gatorade me, bitch!"
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)is INCENTIVE for me to send Alan some bucks! Reid compares well with milk toast. And it's just TOO obvious that he's a establishment player to the nth degree!
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)We need MORE like Alan Grayson, and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay fewer like Reid...
Omaha Steve
(99,832 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)cadaverdog
(228 posts)"They" being the members here who are dumping on Grayson because they don't like his manners or his lifestyle. Gee, that sounds like the guy who is in danger of being our next president.
You people need to work on your history here. Alan Grayson was one of the very first Dems in Congress to strongly object to the TPP, while his comrades were ready to vote for it because it had the imprimatur of our sainted president, who damn near sold it to the American public, not to mention a lot of people right here.
So give me a "loose cannon" anytime versus those group-think pretty boys who want their pictures in the news, rather than policies.
BTW, who is Grayson's competition and what is his great profile that he deserves our support in knocking out a real liberal Democrat?
Fire away! And yeah, I did put my money where my mouth is.
TwilightZone
(25,512 posts)Or does that qualify as a "lifestyle" that can be safely ignored?
kooth
(219 posts)I'm with you, CadaverDog!
kevink077
(365 posts)If Grayson game from a liberal state (Vermont. Ma, RI, Cali etc) I would be fine with Grayson. Reality check: Grayson is from Florida, a slightly right leaning state, we need a candidate who can win. Grayson is not that candidate.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Grayson is a true progressive, if my limited knowledge of him is correct. I have watched him debate, and he passed my bullshit test with flying colors.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)To his tax shelter in the Caymans. You guys are no different from Trump supporters. Get a guy who is bombastic, uses profanity and calls your enemies bad names and he is suddenly your hero. The way he has treated his wife and family, to me, defines misogyny. Grayson is a tool.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)A lot of accusations get thrown around here. Evidence is always better than accusations. Walking people through the premise of his actions before coming to your conclusions about his character would be appreciated.
TwilightZone
(25,512 posts)http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/cayman-island-records-show-hedge-funds-alan-grayson-said-he-closed-are/2256341
This information is readily available. A simple Google search for "Grayson Cayman Islands" takes about 10 seconds and results in 165k hits.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)Not an attack, just experience on message boards like this. Evidence and excerpts help your case.
zazen
(2,978 posts)Having said that, there is room for attack dogs--the whole "he's a sonofabitch but at least he's our sonofabitch" line of thinking--but we shouldn't lionize them.
I really did appreciate his standing up on the floor of the House and reading out the names of people who'd died from lack of healthcare in individual congressperson's districts. The GOP members were furious.
But he doesn't seem to have the inner ballast and humility of Bernie Sanders or Warren who are willing to call out bullshit when they see it but not take that outrage into their personal lives.
JohnnyRingo
(18,672 posts)Read the article and you'll see that the entire committee want's Patrick Murphy, probably because he can win this fall.
You may not like Reid, and you can do what you want with your money, but I'd do more research before I wrote that check. They called him out on ethics for running a personal hedge fund from his govt office.
Read the article.
chillfactor
(7,587 posts)he used to be one of the good guys until he went off the rails.
MADem
(135,425 posts)That motivated him to dump his wife and mother of his many children (the whole bigamy thing) after leaving her for months with no means of support in a house with a leaky roof and overflowing septic.
Since he met Ms. Minning, he's been more craycray than usual.
No fool like an old fool.
I hear they're engaged now:
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)different renditions you get to hear. I don't give a SHIT what he does in his own life - when he says that the GOP health plan is to NOT get sick AND to die quickly if you do - THAT'S what matter to me.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)I don't give a shit about his private life either, but when I say the same thing about GOP politicians I'm accused of being soft on them. Either you stand for privacy or for winning at any cost.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)IF a pol is a publicly outspoken proponent (or adversary) on a given topic.... while they openly flaunt the opposite angle in their private life - THAT'S fair game for derision.
TwilightZone
(25,512 posts)That's an interesting line you have there.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I said IF they sport a public stance against some societal grievance AND THEN violate THAT facet in their personal lives - that sucks. But what that rep does in their own lives (shy of murder or assault) is their business. Of course, if YOU don't like that then you can speak out - lead a move to unseat them or contribute to a potential contender. You can even demean them here on DU or Facebook or Twitter or wherever.
Here - here's an example of this very sorta conflict in MY OWN life. I like going green as much as I can within reason. And yet, I still keep and drive my 1957 vintage truck which I've owned for 30 years. With no catalytic convertor and an ancient gas-wasting carburetor, I'm defying my own leanings every time I drive it to Lowes to get lumber for a project or to bring home a load of manure for our garden. So how should I treat myself for my transgressions?
TwilightZone
(25,512 posts)to me regardless of the person's political affiliation, and I don't think it should require some kind of public trigger to cross some imaginary line. Your opinion clearly differs, which I find interesting.
The fact that this is being largely glossed over by some because he happens to support one of the candidates in this race is also interesting. The line would seem to be more like a curve.
If you believe that Grayson's transgressions and your driving a vintage truck are comparable, you're giving yourself a tad too much credit. Or blame, depending on the perspective.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)whatever things progressive that he might be a Champion for, we should shun him because he doesn't measure up to your ideals in his private life. Is that all there is to it? You'd be happier with typical establishment reps so long as their personal lives passed a sniff test for tameness? Playin' the game and keeping up appearances? Hell, I've already GOT reps like that - non-controversial and definitely NON-Incidental.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And corrupt financial system while running a tax dodging hedge fund from the Cayman Islands. That kind of Flaunting?
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)My federal reps have never told their constituents what they REALLY do every day they're in DC. If they did, they likely wouldn't be re-elected. Alan rocks the boat. The establishment don't like boat rockers. You know - play along and after you're here thru several cycles, we might toss you some scraps of relevance. Even tho our current congressdolt has been there thru 9 election cycles - you'd be REALLY hard pressed to find a person in their district who could tell you who they are. He just quietly continues to do the corporate farmers bidding and they pay'v his continued tenure. Yeah - sounds like a real man of the people.
I'm putting my money on the boat rockin' guy - even if he ain't from my state.. If one likes the pablum-suckers, then one needs to ally with them. A LOT of them "serve" (their term) and go quietly. And the lifetime health care fringie ain't bad for their time!
MADem
(135,425 posts)And he runs a bunch of offshore hedge funds....and he's rolling in the deep million$$$$ but he couldn't take decent care of the mother of his kids.
Yeah, he's "fighting for you" all right. He makes a lot of noise, he doesn't actually DO shit. We need fewer people who shout declarative exhortations to thrill the peanut gallery, and more people who will put their shoulder to the grindstone and their nose to the wheel and do a little W-O-R-K.
His campaign slogan should be "Don't send money--send PLENTY!"
Pffft. File that guy under "Doesn't work or play well with others."
Here--I do back up my assertions:
http://soprweb.senate.gov/index.cfm?event=getFilingDetails&filingID=1272D1B0-D0C3-4653-BA67-62B29594904A&filingTypeID=1
This is an eye opener: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/us/politics/alan-graysons-double-life-congressman-and-hedge-fund-manager.html
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/205719-senate-candidate-alan-grayson-congressional-candidate-dena-minning-engaged-married-sources-say
TwilightZone
(25,512 posts)It's certainly possible it's just a witch hunt - wouldn't be the first time - but he should have known it would make him a target.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You just gotta wonder.
It ain't a witch hunt. It is what it looks like:
The emails also show how Mr. Graysons work for the hedge fund which had $16.4 million in assets as of October and only four investors since it was established at times interfered with his other duties. In August 2015, after Mr. Grayson introduced legislation calling for larger annual increases in Social Security benefits, he signed off on a plan to highlight the proposal at an event in Tampa, Fla., emails obtained by The Times show. But the plan was scuttled, two former aides said, when economic turmoil in China sent stock markets tumbling globally and Mr. Grayson had to turn his attention to the fund.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/us/politics/alan-graysons-double-life-congressman-and-hedge-fund-manager.html
Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)...managing money for family members!
2% of 16.4M is 328K and 20% of profits if he earned 10% returns would be the same - call it 650K of revenue. Office space and expenses and his earnings from the fund are only a couple hundred thousand.
Calling him a hedge fund guy is kind of embarrassing. He is not doing anything at all hear what the heavy hitters are doing.
TwilightZone
(25,512 posts)So much of what goes on is manufactured nonsense, so I was predisposed to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I had also previously read the same article you posted and it certainly sounds like his assertion that his duties as a hedge fund manager never interfered with his duties in Congress is nonsense.
As I noted, if nothing else, he should have known better. It shows either a serious lack of understanding of how politics works in this country - something I doubt is much of a problem with Grayson - or he just didn't care how it was going to look if he got caught.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Having a serious affair is one thing but leaving his family without support, if true, puts him on my shit list.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)That's what he used to end the marriage. Of course, that never bothered him while he had child after child with her, over the course of decades. Nothing like telling your kids that they're "little bastards."
I don't see how he could treat his faithful, cooking, cleaning, being the dutiful Missus, raise-the-kids wife like that. She wasn't a run around; she was a homebody.
I'm betting his kids don't think much of him for doing that either.
He's living with younger/carefree Ms. Big Pharma Minning, and she plans on adding GRAYSON to her last name so her name on the ballot will be Dina Minning Grayson (she's running for HIS House seat). I think it's a rather craven strategy. UGH. Wonder how she's polling? I know his Chief of Staff planned on running for his seat, and was counting on Grayson's support, and was a) shocked and b) blindsided when the girlfriend entered the picture and the race.
He's not a nice guy. Who can you screw over if you can't screw over your most loyal staffers?
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)His children, married or no, are not "little bastards". They are his no matter what pieces of paper the parents did or didn't have. That is a term best left in the dark ages and so fucking offensive to see typed out on DU it makes me want to scream!
I remember the snide cracks about Kennedy and his annulment making his kids, as you so nicely phrased it, "little bastards". Wasn't true then any more than this.
I have no clue about his married life, or whether his wife was a "... faithful, cooking, cleaning, being the dutiful Missus, raise-the-kids ..." innocent party. That is not so much my business as the Cayman Islands allegations in this thread. Those I will look more into.
But you just lost any moral high ground with that awful smirch you just posted about their kids. Never, NEVER! - should anyone talk that way about a child.
MADem
(135,425 posts)How do you think they feel, seeing their mother dragged through the mud by their father who is living with another woman (and will marry her before the deadline to put her name on the ballot)? How do you think THEY feel having their father stand up in court and call THEIR mother a bigamist?
I think you fail to read for context--and rather deliberately. There are reasons for those quote marks around that phrase, you know. But your desire to take offense over what GRAYSON did to his wife AND his children, and instead, place that on ME, is kinda curious.
It's not about "moral high ground." Please--marriage is the exception rather than the rule, these days. Half of all children are born outside of marriage, pretty much. But it IS about humiliating your children to rid himself of their mother--and that IS what this jerk did.
It's about basic human decency in this case, and Grayson has NONE--he was so eager to get rid of the woman he lived with for DECADES and had a large family with, that he dragged her name and reputation through the mud.
An index of the records Alan Grayson requested from Lolita references the Grayson Fund, LP and The Grayson Master Fund (Cayman), LP. One is listed with an equity of $8,016,580.02 and the other is listed with an equity of $8,021,901.23, both as of September 2013.
The fund, which specializes in opportunities in developing countries, had already been an occasional source of controversy for Grayson a vocal liberal and foe of Wall Street excess even before the Times article appeared Feb. 11.
The article cited marketing materials describing the fund as capitalizing on markets "in turmoil due to economic, political or natural disasters" and included a quote attributed to the Rothschild family that "the time to buy is when there's blood in the streets." Grayson has disputed much of the Times article.
The next day, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said that Grayson should exit the Senate race, saying that "he has no moral compass. These deeply troubling allegations should disqualify anyone from a seat in the U.S. Senate."
Grayson has since closed the Cayman branch of the fund, according to the Times, and changed the name to The Sibylline Fund, LP.
On Monday, the Republican and Democratic heads of the U.S. House Committee on Ethics jointly decided to extend the ethics investigation into Grayson, which has been ongoing since Jan. 6.
The Committee pointed out that the fact the investigation was being extended does not reflect any judgment on the allegations. A decision on the issue is expected by April 5.
At future family court hearings in Orlando, the Graysons will argue whether either needs to pay for the other's attorney fees.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-alan-grayson-marriage-annulment-hearing-20160222-story.html
This guy has been a grifter for years--he never hesitated to use the "family man" angle when it suited him: http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/252793-graysons-daughter-send-dad-money
And he also never hesitated to tout his hedge fund as being more successful BECAUSE of his position as a legislator.
But the fund manager had an even more distinctive credential to showcase in his marketing material in June 2013: He was a U.S. congressman, Representative Alan Grayson, Democrat of Florida, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Now he is also among the leading Democratic candidates for one of Floridas United States Senate seats.
This highly unusual dual role a sitting House lawmaker running a hedge fund, which until recently had operations in the Cayman Islands has led to an investigation of Mr. Grayson by the House Committee on Ethics.
The inquiry has become public, but emails and marketing documents obtained by The New York Times show the extent to which Mr. Graysons roles as a hedge fund manager and a member of Congress were intertwined, and how he promoted his international travels, some with congressional delegations, to solicit business.
Interviews and the documents show that Mr. Grayson told potential investors in his hedge fund that they should contribute money to the fund to capitalize on the unrest he observed around the world, and to take particular advantage when there was blood in the streets.
The emails also show how Mr. Graysons work for the hedge fund which had $16.4 million in assets as of October and only four investors since it was established at times interfered with his other duties. In August 2015, after Mr. Grayson introduced legislation calling for larger annual increases in Social Security benefits, he signed off on a plan to highlight the proposal at an event in Tampa, Fla., emails obtained by The Times show. But the plan was scuttled, two former aides said, when economic turmoil in China sent stock markets tumbling globally and Mr. Grayson had to turn his attention to the fund.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/us/politics/alan-graysons-double-life-congressman-and-hedge-fund-manager.html
Anyone who donates to this cad-grifter might as well wipe their own ass with their cash and flush it down the crapper. He's a fraud.
Clinton's still with his first and only wife. He put in the work to repair his mistakes.
Not sure what your point was, there.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)via his actions is no excuse for you writing them. Period. YOU wrote them, and I find that offensive as hell.
Yes, I will read up on all the hedge fund stuff. That IS my business as a Democrat. And as I said, THAT I will read more on. Until he stands before a camera and lies to the voters 'face' that he's NOT a cheating scumbag, 'taint my bidness.
But all the other 'juicy' stuff you wrote is too much for me to credit. Divorce is usually nasty, in my experience. He can't call his wife a bigamist - if he was not legally free to marry, then HE would be the bigamist. But I'm no more basing a political opinion of him by reading of his martial woes than I do a Kennedy or a Clinton. THAT is what my point was - cheating spouses.
The rest? I have no idea if you are over the top, clued in, or reacting because of personal experiences. All of which is not a foundation that I would choose to base a political opinion on - it just isn't. You find my reaction curious? I find your lurid and inflammatory descriptions curious. Do you go this postal on every cheating politician? I see you have a rather sedate(?) response to Clinton's serial cheating and public humiliation of HIS wife and child. All cheating politicians are not created equal?
I swear to gawd, if faithfulness to a spouse was a criteria for public office - DC would be nothing but echoing halls! But then again, mebbe that is a good end result, eh? (In case I must spell it out, that's a lame attempt at humor. An attempt to defuse an arguement over someone else's divorce!)
I do like the photo. Those are some beautiful children.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Sarcasm and irony are strangers to you. Thanks for clarifying that, I'll be sure to avoid you in future.
I support Lolita in this ugly little drama. I think she was treated disgracefully and her children were made to suffer because their father is a blowhard asshole.
I think a man worth tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars who cuts his wife off without a dime to the point where she gets an EBT card from the state and has to put her kids on the Free Lunch program is an absolute SHIT.
He left his children to live in a moldy house with a leaky roof and an overflowing septic while he pranced around to parties with Miss Dina. He failed in his DUTY to his family.
It's not about "faithfulness" (but since you honed in on THAT, I suppose I could psychoanalyze you and wonder about YOUR personal particulars, couldn't I? But I'll stick to the subject matter instead and not make shit about YOU like you keep doing to me--something that I find "offensive as hell" FWIW) -- it's about SUPPORTING your family. Leaving your wife without a dime with four young kids in a dilapidated and MOLDY home with septic flluid bubbling around the foundation is what crappy, rotten people do. VINDICTIVE people. People who don't deserve offices of public trust.
Read the links. This man is an absolute asshole. He's not a champion of the regular guy--he's a wealthy grifter who used his office to "sell" his hedge funds, who dumped his wife, tried to starve her out of "his" home, and who disrespected her blatantly without any regard for her feelings.
With any luck, Karma will be on the menu for him.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Last edited Thu May 12, 2016, 05:28 AM - Edit history (1)
YOU literally wrote "little bastards". You own it. Psychoanalyze me? You have neither the temperament nor training. I don't revel in messy divorce details nor refer to the children involved as "little bastards", so I'm not the patient in need of a shrink here. I didn't make it about you, YOU did. By your bizarre fixation on a lamentable family's turmoil. It's OTT.
Yes, your whole rant was about "faithfulness" and the gruesome details you keep interpreting and posting. I tried to back out of this tempest with an attempt at humor. I'm obviously not good at humor either. You come at me - again - raving about his marital stuff.
At this point, I could give no shits about he and his wife's divorce battles. I've around long enough to know it's always a 3-sided story. His. Hers. And the truth. But you are invested in this, so keep on ranting. Far be it from me to deprive you of that rather odd pleasure.
And, again, yes. Avoid me, please! I don't come here for toxic.
Done with it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)"in quotes" it diverges from the essential meaning. The clue, you see (and apparently it wooshed right over your head) is when the quotes are "unnecessary" to the sentence. It makes the term stand out. The term stands out for a REASON--that anyone with a mild skill at introspection or interpretation can figure out. People who are excessively literal lack this skill.
But you stew in that soup of sanctimony, why doncha? And I don't post opinion--I post fact and provide links to back it up. Links you don't dare read lest your mind be changed, apparently.
Of course you're "done with it." Take your "no shits" and away with you, then!
Why don't you send your misogynist buddy Alan a hefty donation to his failing, flailing campaign? Send some dough to "poor" Dina his Big Pharma fiancee who is running for his old seat, too--because wealthy hedge fund managers who use Congress as a resume point on a Hedge Fund prospectus and folks who have made their fortunes in the Big Pharma/Medical Research Industry are just the sort of people we want making law in this country! Fight the POWER, maaaaaan!!!
You know the old saying: "A fool and his money are soon parted." And as for ranting, that screed you just wrote was "quite the rant!"
TwilightZone
(25,512 posts)You then drag Clinton into it, even though the situations aren't even remotely alike.
But then, you wouldn't know that because you didn't bother to learn anything about the situation. You then claim moral superiority based on intentional ignorance.
That's pretty damn funny, right there.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)and a very few others are saying he did to his wife. And yes, I referred to Clinton and Kennedy's troublesome pasts as examples of why I didn't see this as particularly different. Poster referred to publicly humiliating the kids - you don't think those kids were in a similar boat?
Look. Grayson did not call his kids little bastards. The poster I was spatting with took that upon herself. That you don't have a problem with that and leap to the conclusion that it's a defense of Grayson is your problem. I have a problem with anyone, Democrat or other, calling kids "little bastards" because they hate the parent. Period.
As I said, I will look at the links about improprieties in his hedge funds, etc. That is fair game. But people's marriages, official or common-law, are truly not what I will judge a politician by ... there is absolutely no way to tell who's telling the full truth. Remember - I said there is his side, her side, and the truth. Sometimes they overlap. Sometimes they don't. But there is never a time when it's right to refer to their children as "little bastards".
I just don't see how I can be any clearer on this. How you and the aforementioned poster take THAT is on you. If you people want to claim moral superiority based on lurid headlines and pretend to know the facts, have at it. Defend calling those beautiful kids "little bastards".
That's pretty damn something, right there. But funny, it's not.
reddread
(6,896 posts)and everyone else.
Newsom takes the cake, but those things dont matter if you are dreamy looking.
MADem
(135,425 posts)impacted his reputation. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, and all that.
This woman delivered some deserved shade in this opinion piece: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2007/02/cbs-says-sf-mayor-gavin-newsom-breaks-man-code
You knew there was trouble brewing when he and his wife split up from their bi-coastal marriage. They were both doing their own thing for awhile, apparently, it was like The Good Wife without all the corruption and drama. And, like The Good Wife, the wife was the better looking one in the partnership!
Mr. N looks a bit like Gordon Gekko with that ick 'do. "Frat boy," indeed.
Then again, I'm not an expert as to what people might find "dreamy." I think Justin Beiber looks like the kid who played Dennis The Menace (Jay North) but people find HIM "dreamy" for reasons that escape me!!
It's not hard to be better looking than Grayson, but his Missus was probably not expecting to be "on the market" ever again. She was blindsided by a cheating husband who had a well-established and nearly public affair going on in full swing before he served her with papers and tried to trash her as a crazy lady. She didn't have the same kinds of options as Ms. Guilfoyle had.
downeastdaniel
(497 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Is that why you tossed that entirely ineffectual insult my way?
It's not "yellow journalism" to call a fraud what he is.
But do go on with the sanctimony--the man is an ugly cretin and user. He is all talk, no walk, AND he treats women he wants to "unload" abominably.
He screwed over his wife, and he screwed over his longtime campaign manager/staff director. He is a user, it's how he operates.
He's using you, too--you're just too naive to see it....yet. But.....but....he speaks TROOOOOOTH to POWWWWER!!! LOL! Send him a donation--send two!
MADem
(135,425 posts)It used to be called "Middle Aged Crazy" back before that kind of expression became un-PC, or what-have-you. Now it's called "andropause" or "male menopause."
The theory is it has to do with decreasing testosterone levels.
http://www.livescience.com/36014-male-menopause-real-signs.html
INdemo
(6,994 posts)what you mean?
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)behind Grayson. Since that time, Alan's bad side has shown it's ugly face far too many times. It all started with his divorce. He's not the same guy anymore.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He sounds like a con man to me.
Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)Reter
(2,188 posts)A mean-spirited firebrand, only liberal instead.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)"Pythagoras"
"You're a goddamn right angle!"
LibAsHell
(180 posts)Alan Grayson is one of the few progressive liberals in politics.
This one isn't hard.
Renew Deal
(81,893 posts)Does that matter to "progressive liberals?"
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/rep-alan-grayson-targeted-by-second-ethics-complaint-119795
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/cayman-island-records-show-hedge-funds-alan-grayson-said-he-closed-are/2256341
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/us/politics/alan-graysons-double-life-congressman-and-hedge-fund-manager.html
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/grayson-wife-drops-restraining-order
reddread
(6,896 posts)nice work if you can get it
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)Response to NeoConsSuck (Original post)
rjsquirrel This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to NeoConsSuck (Original post)
PDittie This message was self-deleted by its author.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)strongly worded letter(with his name on it) and he won't be able to turn around and sell it on ebay(like Limbaugh).
Historic NY
(37,457 posts)your willing to overlook his hedge funds management scheme, off shore banking and the ethic violations and all his other shenanigans. Whats next Panama papers for him.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I wonder if they send him twenty seven bucks, too?
How much is that grifter worth, these days? Thirty million or more? He's the ELEVENTH wealthiest member of Congress--but he needs YOUR money!
I think his campaign manager/district director used to do those posts here--ever since he screwed HER over, we haven't seen much of him here, have we?
She expected to get his endorsement in running for the seat he is vacating. http://randolphforcongress.com/
Instead, he's marrying her primary opponent so she'll be "Grayson" on the ballot--and she's never been elected dog catcher, never mind to Congress. Of course, she's lobbied Congress plenty--and even held the Bible when Grayson got sworn in last time.
I wouldnt say Im interested. Yeah, Id consider it for sure. But thats only if Alan runs for Senate, and Im not sure if thats going to happen or not, she said. It all depends on what Alan does, and theres no set course.
When asked about the reports of Minnings interest in the seat, Randolph said she was surprised. Im speechless, Randolph said.
The likeliest candidate to run for Graysons seat if he vacates it, state Sen. Darren Soto, said he never heard about Minning coveting the seat.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/alan-grayson-dena-minning-florida-congress-117624#ixzz48QQnybIj
The guy is just sleazy.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)And second is who would replace him. I'd take a corrupt hedge fund manager with a liberal voting record over a well meaning conservative any day. Those conservative votes will probably hurt me far more than anything Grayson has done in his life.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Democrats like Reid support her and no doubt will back the Republican lite Debbie Wassermann Schultz,whoops forget the lite part,just Republican.
Reid is a spineless corporatist eating from the same trough as the Republicans taking the Corporate money.
When the Democrats had control of Congress Reid was nothing but a whiner and allowed the Repukes to walk all over the Democrats with the 100's of filibusters and gave in to the Republicans on every issue..so why wouldn't he support a Republican running against a real progressive?
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)harun
(11,348 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,226 posts)Seriously though, I liked some of the gusto Grayson showed at points during his congressional career, but the guy simply does not have the proper temperament for statewide or national elected office. And it looks like he has some other baggage as well. He'd be slaughtered in the Florida Senate race.
It sucks because Patrick Murphy's such a mediocre, milquetoast uninspiring candidate but he's the only other alternative. But he's more viable that Grayson will be, so I'll be voting for him simply for the purposes of Senate numbers, not that I'll expect much greatness out of Murphy. He did get rid of the horrific Allen West--that's the one good thing I'll say about Murphy.
brooklynite
(94,911 posts)my takeaway was:
1. He's smart
2. He KNOW's he's smart
3. He's going to tell you he's smart
4. He's not going to accommodate any opinion to the contrary.
BootinUp
(47,209 posts)He is so instructive of how our political system and media can be used by the unscrupulous.
djean111
(14,255 posts)thereabouts. Then I am done.
Murphy was a Republican until 2012, when he wanted to run against another Republican.
No change of heart or issues, just ambition.
He is a member of the Third Way-advised new Democrat Coalition. He voted yes on establishing the Benghazi panel. He is what Hillary and DWS and the DNC are embracing and supporting - Third Way Republicans who have fastened themselves to the Democratic Party like leeches. Or like magpies invading another bird's nest - throwing out the occupants and making themselves at home.
lancer78
(1,495 posts)he is some slaveowner?