Bill Clinton draws boos from Sanders, Trump supporters in West Virginia
Source: AP, via KOLO 8
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former President Bill Clinton drew boos and shouts from the crowd as he made a campaign stop in Logan, West Virginia, on his wife's behalf, ahead of the state's May 10 presidential primary.
Supporters of Democrat Bernie Sanders and Republican candidate Donald Trump gathered outside the school as Clinton spoke Sunday. According to WVNS-TV, a letter written on behalf of Logan officials told U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin's staff in an email that Bill and Hillary Clinton "are simply not welcome in our town."
Hillary Clinton, who planned to campaign in Williamson on Monday, has been criticized for comments that her policies would put coal miners and companies out of business. Clinton said later she was mistaken and that she's committed to coalfield communities.
Bill Clinton planned to attend a rally later in Charleston.
Read more: http://www.kolotv.com/content/news/Bill-Clinton-draws-boos-from-Sanders-Trump-supporters-in-West-Virginia-377740931.html
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I came here to tell you that I care about what youre going through, Bill Clinton told the crowd. I get it.
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Bill Clinton also addressed the need to improve access to broadband Internet and efforts to eradicate the nations drug epidemic, which he said is prevalent in distressed areas. West Virginia has the nations highest rate of drug overdose deaths.
I dont think Hillary would come here to make you promises that we cant keep, he said. Were not leaving West Virginia behind. Weve got to invest in this place. I know the price you have paid.
Near the end of his speech, one man standing in the back of the room shouted, We want work!
Clinton responded, We are not going to resolve this today. But wed be a heck of a lot better off in this country if we have more meetings like this and less screaming and shouting. All I can tell you is if she wins, I will do every single solitary thing I can personally. I will do everything I can. I believe shes got the best plan going forward.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/05/01/bill-clinton-booed-west-virginia/
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)(WSAZ) -- Approximately 200 Hillary Clinton supporters gathered in Logan Middle School's cafetorium to see former President Bill Clinton ...
http://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Bill-Clinton-stop-in-Logan-met-with-protesters-377736191.html
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)unlike Der Trumpenfuhrer, who would tell his crowds to punch them in the face.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)appalachiablue
(41,199 posts)and another Dem. Congressman as main speakers that I attended last year in early June, a few weeks after Bernie's campaign kickoff. Outside the building for the forum event that night was a group of around 30-40 people holding signs and chanting, mostly young women. At the time I thought it odd but didn't pay much attention because we were rushing to get inside. As my colleague soon said and we confirmed two hours later when departing and saw some of them still out there, they were Hillary supporters. Premature, overeager and johnny on the spot at a long scheduled, non campaign event, even then, at the very beginning.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)appalachiablue
(41,199 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)for Hillary ANYPLACE!
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And just IMAGINE how minescule that 12 Mil would've looked if Independents (AND Republicans!) could have cast a vote for Bernie. You know - the way they'd be able to LANDSLIDE Bernie into office in the General Election. But what's a few votes against Trump, eh?
realmirage
(2,117 posts)a thousand times already. Google it. Educate yourself
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)or his Demo imitator.
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)That's funny!
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)TomCADem
(17,390 posts)If it was Rick Scott, he would have run a commercial just to pick on any person who dared to speak up.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)he can pretend it wasn't indicative of how far the mask has come off.
FarPoint
(12,481 posts)Hillary Clinton as Madam President.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Crowd loved him, and he hung around forever afterward to chat, shake hands and take pictures with anyone who wanted.
I'm not easily starstruck, but it's pretty surreal to meet him.
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,227 posts)Had the chance to shake his hand at a rally.
Meeting a president--any president I've respected--is a huge thrill.
Meeting Carter or Obama would be just the same, but yeah....meeting Bill was pretty damn cool.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)I'm jealous. Living in a big city in a small state with few delegates, we don't get those opportunities.
and a quick exchange of a few words.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #5)
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OwlinAZ
(410 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Bubba? Style? CLASS?
2banon
(7,321 posts)In my view, Clinton is the antithesis of someone who possesses "class".
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)I don't think Bill's sex life is my business, and he served his country very well as President for 2 terms. Any more snide comments from the peanut gallery?
2banon
(7,321 posts)be disgusting. I found the impeachment trials to be shocking and outrageous.
I also found Bill to be disgusting. And at the point when all of this was going down, added up to all of the other sexual abuse accusations, yeah I found him beyond disgusting, something of a misogynist, and a sociopath. At the time, I was stunned Hillary didn't dump his ass out in the street where it belonged.
But now I understand why she stood by her man. I don't want him anywhere near the White House, I don't want to endure the political outcome of repeat of all that shite again.
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)his popularity. I guess people understand he is a human and had his personal life intruded on and they thought that was wrong too.
2banon
(7,321 posts)That's what the Third Way was all about, which is at the core of the policy issues we're in wide disagreement over.
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)I can't imagine where we would be if it had been 7 out of 8. Clinton won and twice by finding out what people wanted and giving them a Democratic platform they could get behind. If you think I didn't cringe over some of the tough battles that were lost or compromised on you don't understand where I am coming from and where I think we should be going.
2banon
(7,321 posts)of Republican Rule, and attacks on Liberals (which at the time I considered myself) with tired smarmy tropes like "bleeding heart Liberals" always being bandied about by pundits round table debates, only for the Liberal Rep to be mealy mouthed in defense of Liberalism.
I hadn't realized until much later in his Presidency, that Democratic establishment intended to make sure the Repukes no longer had a legitimate reason to use that trope against us with their intellectually dishonest and reactionary bullshit. That's one accomplishment among several other policy items they can brag about among themselves, but apparently still feel compelled to pretend otherwise in campaigns for our votes.
Have you noticed we never hear "Bleeding Heart Liberals" anymore? I used to take that as a badge of honor, but the repukes don't make that claim anymore and haven't since the Clinton Administration. There's a reason for that.
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)But the Reagan era is over now.
MisterFred
(525 posts)Bill Clinton set the Reagan era in stone, and ensured conservative dominance for two decades. Clinton's policies were Reagan-lite. See: welfare reform. See: criminal justice bill.
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)in various ways, and showing a leftward shift post Shrub/Bush II. For example a significantly higher percentage of Democrats now self identify as liberal. Attitudes on tax policy indicate acceptance of higher tax rates, I was just scanning this article, think it was in Washington Post or maybe 538. Also opinions on whether regulation of business is necessary are more favorable. Anyways, perhaps the end of the era means something different to you, but to me it means Reagans pitch no longer will sell like before.
You are one of those folks who would rather Bush I had 2 terms and then Dole I guess. Fuck, that would have been so much better. I tire of having this argument though so consider this my parting word.
MisterFred
(525 posts)That's what I was talking about. Clinton and Bush II allowed Reagan's economic policy and in a lot of ways his social policy, especially trade and deregulation to remain in place after Reagan. AS YOU SAID: it wasn't until twenty years after Reagan that we achieved a leftward shift post Bush-II. That certainly wasn't Clinton's doing. It was Bush II's overreach and the bravery of people like homosexuals who outed themselves and managed to change society's opinion on gay marriage, etc. (Completely without help from the sanctity-of-marriage Clintons, you'll recall).
I firmly believe a liberal could have been elected instead of Clinton (Perot - it's not Clinton's elections were two-way races). And that could have improved the country sooner - without baking in decades of conservative policy that still rules Washington in many ways (see: Hillary's position on trade deals; see: Obama's continuing support of faith-based initiatives despite the first amendment).
I don't think Bush I should have had two terms - I'm just not so beaten down, like you, that I think the more conservative the Democrat is the better the chance they have of winning.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Obama admires him!
And even Hillary is still advocating some kind of trickle down Reaganomics baloney.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Loki
(3,825 posts)agree on something.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Real classy, being unfaithful in the Oval Office with a much younger intern...
Gman
(24,780 posts)And take that holier than thou crap somewhere else.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)I backed Sen. Sanders, but, at this point, it's clear he's not going to be the nominee.
Would I have preferred it? Yes. But there's a choice in the fall between two outcomes, and the PUMA-esque behavior is doing no one any favors.
It's time to just call out these people spouting rightwing talking points for what they are: Trump supporters.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)OwlinAZ
(410 posts)maybe Hillary trolls trying to kick up a fuss.
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)Cha
(298,021 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)Nobody here cares. Talk about real issues. Not BS nobody cares about.
frylock
(34,825 posts)This is just the beginning. Good luck turning the GE into a referendum against Trump bro.
Gman
(24,780 posts)What's moral according to him and his supporters, I don't want anything to do with the man.
frylock
(34,825 posts)In fact, I don't see Sanders talking about it all. I do see people discussing an unfortunate incident that happened in the workplace though.
Gman
(24,780 posts)This obsession with sex by Sanders and his supporters disqualifies him from being president. I had no idea. And I used to respect Sanders. Not anymore. This makes him a lot like Ted Cruz. Or even Hucksbee.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Sure you did. Sure.
MFM008
(19,834 posts)done anything wrong....................
840high
(17,196 posts)had been a republican president - you'd be screaming your head off.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)I am not into peeping Tom politics.
840high
(17,196 posts)screaming for lesser transgressions.
Nitram
(22,951 posts)But you've got good company in the GOP for your proclivities.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Nitram
(22,951 posts)for your edification, I'll take the time to teach you the meaning of "in the bedroom" in the context. It means, "behind closed doors", "in private."
frylock
(34,825 posts)Nitram
(22,951 posts)I guess I just don't obsess about other people's sex habits the way you clearly do. But, hey, different strokes for different folks. Whatever rocks your boa t...
frylock
(34,825 posts)I spent a couple decades defending Bullhorn Billy on this front till he likened me to the Tea Party. I now feel an obligation to fulfill that role.
Nitram
(22,951 posts)Eeyore is the perfect avatar for the bitter road you walk. My condolences.
frylock
(34,825 posts)as a tip of the hat to the "No We Can't!" campaign. Yeah, my private vendetta is ridding ourselves of the Clintons for good.
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)That his only biological child was born out of wedlock to a young woman Sanders never married? http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927
This is the problem with having a holier than thou attitude. You always end up looking like a hypocrite.
Zorro
(15,756 posts)Trump would certainly make it well known if Bernie became the nominee.
Chew on that, Bros.
frylock
(34,825 posts)SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)And the woman he conceived the child with was not either of the two women he did marry.
Me personnally, I don't give a shit what goes on between two consenting adults. You are the one who seems so concerned about adultery.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Preseason is over. Better get used to this line of attack.
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)Sanders, on the other hand, is totally untested when it comes to that level of attack.
And Bill never fathered a child out of wedlock. Nor is he running. Hillary is. And Hillary has been faithful and exceedingly loyal to her marriage...and has had no children out of wedlock.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)The Clinton campaign has hired a small army of bloggers to go all over the net to defend her and promote her. They are everywhere.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)and, in fact, headed toward convention without a nominee that I can see in sight...
jmowreader
(50,589 posts)Would you like to explain how Bernie Sanders' $16 million to Revolution Messaging to coordinate a large and vicious online troll campaign makes him morally superior to anyone in any way?
zalinda
(5,621 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Where everything is not ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, CNN, Headline News .
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Put the tinfoil away, conspiracy boy.
2naSalit
(86,920 posts)put that one on ignore until I saw your reply.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)On Mon May 2, 2016, 12:35 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Sorry, chief. I've been posting here for 15 years or so
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1434234
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Personal attacks Calling someone a "conspiracy boy"?
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Explanation: I was on the fence on this one but decided that conspiracy BOY crosses the line.
can you imagine anyone doing that during a POLITICAL CAMPAIGN?!?!?!
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)on DU were doing such a poor job of defending her that Brock instead had to hire, train and pay people to do it. And this after the DU Hillarians even set up a separate website solely to strategize on promoting Clinton. Too funny!
Skittles
(153,298 posts)ENOUGH already
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)JustAnotherGen
(32,026 posts)She paid me to join in 2007 and I get $500 per post at DU. It's quite a bit less on yahoo. I was paid to be a sleeper poster but she told me first hand to post my support for John Edwards then in 2016 - Martin O'Malley. I also got paid to protest a Trump rally in California last week. I didn't go - but I took the money anyways.
ETA - it's the God's Honest Truth. On My mother's grave - even though she's still alive.
Cha
(298,021 posts)They're making up dribble out of thin air. lol
JustAnotherGen
(32,026 posts)Cha
(298,021 posts)Lisa D
(1,532 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)appalachiablue
(41,199 posts)in Philadelphia at a HC Rally where members of the audience objected to the Clintons Welfare and Crime Bill policies.
Logan is a very small town of 1,600 people in a poor area in economic decline connected to the dwindling coal industry for years. Why this is such a big issue I don't understand.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)and he got heckled on the trail
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)This is back in the day when Hillary Claims Ron and Nancy Reagan had started the AIDS discussion gay people just refused to have....
"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan in particular Mrs. Reagan we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)You can't be both
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Take the curbs off CO2 emissions?
thereismore
(13,326 posts)SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)I could throw up.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)That "I feel your pain" was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. He talked a good game, while selling out the poor to his corporate overlords. He is also one of the most classless individuals to ever disgrace the oval office. Selling out the Lincoln Bedroom to donors, selling access for donations. And the fact he couldn't keep it in his pants was just icing on a very disgusting cake.
Skittles
(153,298 posts)Beacool
(30,254 posts)Big deal!!!
ericson00
(2,707 posts)pnwmom
(109,024 posts)that would be equivalent to 75,000 showing up in Seattle to support Bernie.
Beacool
(30,254 posts)2naSalit
(86,920 posts)closely or even remotely resembling respect or civility from BS and Trollump supporters. They just can't do it since they don't know how.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)So is your place on the ignore list.
/bye.
elleng
(131,370 posts)INCENTIVIZE THE PRODUCTION OF CLEAN ENERGY, NOT FOSSIL FUELS.
End fossil fuel subsidies, and reinvest the savings in a long-term extension of the Production Tax Credit and Investment Tax Credit. These credits are critical to a healthy wind industry, and make rooftop solar installations affordable for homeowners and businesses. Yet Congress regularly lets the credits expire, leading to a boom-bust cycle of development that hurts job creation and investment.
SUPPORT RURAL CLEAN ENERGY FINANCE.
Launch a Clean Energy Finance Authority, and direct it to support community wind and solar projects. This should include working with rural electric cooperatives so they can affordably install renewable energy generation from investing in Clean Renewable Energy Bonds, to supporting partnerships so co-ops can take advantage of renewable energy tax credits.
Redouble USDAs Rural Energy for America Program, which provides grants and loan guarantees to agricultural producers and rural small businesses, to help purchase renewable energy systems and make energy efficiency improvements.
PROVIDE A STRONG MARKET FOR BIOFUELS.
Enact a long-term extension of the Biodiesel Tax Credit, including production incentives for second-generation biofuels, while investing in renewable fuel infrastructure to support biofuels and electric cars.
Maintain a strong market for biofuels, by directing the EPA to set annual volume targets that comply fully with the Renewable Fuel Standard. High targets drive new investments in biofuel innovation and infrastructure, creating jobs and tearing down barriers to using renewable fuels.
TRAIN WORKERS TO JOIN GROWING CLEAN ENERGY INDUSTRIES.
Create a new Clean Energy Jobs Corps to partner with communities to build clean energy infrastructure, retrofit buildings to be more energy efficient, and expand our fields and forests so they can absorb more greenhouse gases.
Partner with industry to help meet skills and employment needs in renewable energy production, construction, and manufacturing. Launch a national initiative for career and technical education, starting in high school, to develop a pipeline of workers for the new clean energy economy.
MODERNIZE OUR ELECTRIC GRID TO SUPPORT LOCALIZED, RENEWABLE ENERGY GENERATION.
Prioritize modernizing our electric grid, to support localized, renewable energy generation and better connect existing wind generation to the consumers who need it.
https://martinomalley.com/climate/iowa/
Not likely West Virginians will appreciate her.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)hillaryclinton.com/issues/climate
Climate change is an urgent threat and a defining challenge of our timeand Hillary Clinton has a plan to tackle it by making America the worlds clean energy superpower, taking bold steps to slash carbon pollution at home and around the world, and ensuring no Americans are left out or left behind as we rapidly build a clean energy economy.
SNIP
Hillarys plan is designed to deliver on the pledge President Obama made at the Paris climate conference last Decemberwithout relying on climate deniers in Congress to pass new legislation. Her plan will reduce greenhouse gas emissions by up to 30 percent in 2025 relative to 2005 levels and put the country on a path to cut emissions more than 80 percent by 2050. Her approach will catalyze new investment and economic opportunity across the country, create hundreds of thousands of new jobs, reduce energy bills and save families money, make our country more secure, and protect our families and communities from pollution.
As president, Hillary will:
Defend, implement, and extend smart pollution and efficiency standards, including the Clean Power Plan, which will prevent 3,600 premature deaths and 90,000 asthma attacks annually, and efficiency standards for cars, trucks and appliances that are already reducing energy costs for American households and businesses by over $75 billion per year.
Launch a $60 billion Clean Energy Challenge to partner with states, cities, and rural communities and give them the tools and resources they need to go beyond federal standards in cutting carbon pollution and expanding clean energy. The Clean Energy Challenge will also help ensure all Americans share in the benefits of a clean energy economy by encouraging solar and energy efficiency investments in low-income communities.
Invest in clean energy infrastructure, innovation, manufacturing and workforce development to make the U.S. economy more competitive and create good paying jobs and careers. Hillary has a comprehensive plan for making existing energy infrastructure cleaner and safer, unlocking new investment, and forging a climate compact with Canada and Mexico to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and accelerate clean energy deployment across the continent.
Ensure safe and responsible energy production. As we transition to a clean energy economy, we must ensure that the fossil fuel production taking place today is safe and responsible and that areas too sensitive for energy production are taken off the table. Hillary knows there are some places where we should keep fossil fuels in the ground or under the ocean.
Reform leasing on public lands. As president, Hillary would reform fossil fuel leasing and significantly expand clean energy production on public lands, from wind in Wyoming to solar in Nevada.
End wasteful tax subsidies for oil and gas companies. Oil and gas companies have enjoyed billions in tax breaks for decades. Hillary would end those wasteful subsidies and invest in clean energy.
Cut methane emissions across the economy. Hillary would cut emissions of methane, a powerful greenhouse gas, by 40-45 percent and put in place strong standards for reducing leaks from both new and existing sources.
Revitalize coal communities. Building a 21st century clean energy economy will create new jobs and industries, protect public health, and reduce carbon pollution. But we cant ignore the impact this transition is already having on coal communities. Hillarys $30 billion plan to revitalize coal communities will ensure coal miners, power plant operators, transportation workers, and their families get the respect they deserve and the benefits they have earned; invest in economic diversification and job creation; and make coal communities an engine of US economic growth in the 21st century, as they have been for generations.
Make environmental justice and climate justice central priorities. Across America, air pollution, water pollution, and toxic sites are disproportionately impacting low-income communities and communities of colorand climate change will make that impact even more severe. Hillary will set a bold national goal to eliminate lead poisoning as a public health risk within five years, create new economic opportunity by cleaning up the more than 450,000 toxic brownfield sites across the country, expand solar and energy efficiency solutions in low-income communities, and include the voices of community leaders, the environmental justice movement, and outside experts in taking on these challenges with a new Environmental and Climate Justice Task Force.
Every child and every family in America deserves clean air to breathe, clean water to drink, and a safe and healthy place to live. This a justice issue. Its a civil rights issue. And as president, it will be a national priority for us.
HILLARY, APRIL 13, 2016
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)elleng
(131,370 posts)Thanks SO MUCH.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Change is pretty hard to come by.
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)Shooting down a good idea because it isn't 'your' candidates idea is counter intuitive. Good ideas are just that.
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)But it appears neither you nor elleng appears interested in doing so:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1434269
elleng
(131,370 posts)Big problems for WVa, and today HRC came back with something:
Hillary to WV: WAIT! I DIDN'T MEAN I'LL PUT YOU OUT OF BUSINESS... I only meant I'd do it nicely...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-apologizes-for-saying-shed-put-coal-out-of-business/
This is the quintessential reason Hillary is not trusted. You cannot say on one day of your campaign that you'd put the coal industry "out of business" and then turn around the next day after you pissed off everyone this impacts and say you didn't mean it. EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT YOU SAID AND WHAT YOU MEANT!
WILLIAMSON, W.V. Hillary Clinton apologized on Monday for saying she would put coal miners and companies "out of business" as president, calling her comment a "misstatement."
"What I said was totally out of context from what I meant," Clinton said. "It was a misstatement, because what I was saying is that the way things are going now, we will continue to lose jobs."
Clinton said during a town hall on CNN in March that she is the "only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country."
"We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business," she said. Clinton went on to say that, under her plan to shift the country away from fossil fuels, coal miners would not be forgotten.'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511886804
elleng
(131,370 posts)Just saw your response.
jillan
(39,451 posts)pnwmom
(109,024 posts)in a town of less than 1800 people. This would be similar to 75,000 people turning out in Seattle.
And he handled the few hecklers in the doorway very well, with the audience rising to applaud him.
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)That's terrible!
Exactly how many votes/delegates will be subtracted from Hillary's total as a result of this occurrence?
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)... funny that, huh?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)greymouse
(872 posts)Clinton must be saving that for Tuesday.
I see Camp Weathervane has changed its mind yet again.
As usual they just ran a poll and decided
I'd have booed as well
If it had been Trump speaking, I'd have thrown something
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)who were doing the booing, it tends to show that they are two sides of the same coin, at the very least. If I weren't already a staunch Hillary supporter, this alone would make me think VERY hard about what Bernie is doing to divide the Dem Party.
And when he actually says words like these, my suspicions are confirmed.
In other words the convention will be a contested contest.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/01/bernie-sanders-contested-convention-hillary-clinton-delegates
There is no - repeat NO - requirement that Hillary have a count of pledged delegates that exceeds the majority required. A majority including pledged delegates and SDs in any combination is what is required. Bernie either STILL doesn't "get" that or he is deliberately "misspeaking." Either way, what he is doing is deliberately divisive.
More about the Logan visit: http://wvmetronews.com/2016/05/01/vocal-crowd-protesters-out-for-former-president-bill-clintons-logan-county-event/
He then addressed those in the crowd who were yelling, This is where they start screaming because they dont want to hear this.
Alongside Clinton in Logan were U.S. Senator Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Governor Earl Ray Tomblin who have both endorsed Hillary Clinton.
Bill was also met with a LOT of adoration in Charleston, where there are actually MORE voters. http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20160501/bill-clinton-sees-protesters-in-logan-adoration-in-charleston
peace13
(11,076 posts)If people boo him, there's a reason. It's rude, but no reflection on the candidate. He can only control his own comments and it sounds like he's having trouble with that. What's with this WE stuff? I wish Hill luck if they get back to the WH. She will have to fight him for the desk in the Oval Office.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)He's dividing the liberals and progressives from the corporate apologists. It's about time, too.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)OwlinAZ
(410 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Were not leaving West Virginia behind. Weve got to invest in this place. I know the price you have paid.
We are not going to resolve this today. But wed be a heck of a lot better off in this country if we have more meetings like this and less screaming and shouting. All I can tell you is if she wins, I will do every single solitary thing I can personally. I will do everything I can.
Just who do you want me to vote for Bill, you or Hillary?
appalachiablue
(41,199 posts)He's a real caricature at times. In 2008 there was an interview I saw where Biden said the fact that Bill would be a real presence made him decline an offer of VP by HC if offered. Who might fill the position this time will be interesting to see.
Notions that the globalization, NAFTA Clintons will invest in and rejuvenate that Tristate area of West Virginia, Kentucky and Ohio are absurd. Same for the impoverished Native American communities he referenced. For 25 plus years the economy and jobs there have declined and problems increased, poverty, broken families, drugs.
Darb
(2,807 posts)Strange bedfellows I'd say. do you think they know they are fucking the enemy?
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)him being the last President to submit a balanced budget to Congress!
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)But did Bill say that the Native Americans have nothing because they don't have gambling?
CanadaexPat
(496 posts)on all her previous statements. Mistake, mid-spoke, what I really meant, you're distorting my words...we're going to hear a lot of that in the next six months.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Deuce
(959 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)areas.
republicans profess climate change is a hoax and are popular in coal- and oil-producing areas. Convenient how that works out.