Moms of Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner to Stump for Clinton

[LannyDeVaney]

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Source: NBC News

The issue of racism and the treatment of minorities at the hands of the justice system have been major themes of the Democratic campaign. The women appearing with Clinton — who have lost children in brushes with police or to violence — were due to make the case that the former secretary of state would take on the gun lobby, a campaign official told NBC News.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trayvon-martin-eric-garner-s-moms-stump-clinton-n524021

[pandr32]

1. And she will take on the gun lobby!

It is way past time, too.

[RoccoR5955]

7. Just like she took on Wall St.

She will tell them to stop it, wave her magic wand, go off on her unicorn, and everything will be okay.

Yeah, right. If you believe that, I have a bridge for sale CHEAP!

[tblue37]

2. But Eric Garner's daughter, who has become a civil rights activist since her father

was killed, made an ad in support of Bernie.

[MADem]

3. She's gotten a number of significant endorsements.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/clinton-gains-support-170-african-american-women-leaders-n510846

....Some of the black women leaders who endorsed Clinton include, actress Angela Bassett; Gwen Carr, mother of Eric Garner, who was killed by police in New York; actress Vivica Fox; Sybrina Fulton, mother of Trayvon Martin, who was shot and killed by George Zimmerman in Florida; Alexis Herman, former Secretary of Labor; Alice Huffman, an NAACP board member; Shonda Rhimes, Executive Producer of the hit television show "Scandal"; actress Holly Robinson-Peete; and Democrats Mayor Muriel Bowser of Washington D.C.; Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson of Texas; Rep. Maxine Waters of California; and Rep. Donna Edwards of Maryland.

"Hillary Clinton has been fighting for African American women and girls her entire career - and she's not going to stop now," LaDavia Drane, Director of African American Outreach for the Clinton campaign, said in a statement.

[AtheistCrusader]

4. Uh-huh. 2008 is calling.

Obama made his comment about 'clinging to guns and religion' and Clinton feinted to the right, for gun owners.

Remember?

She'll say any damn thing after reading the polls.
(Edit: I'll find a better quality video that doesn't cut off after two sentences.)
From Wiki:

"Campaigning in the week of April 14, 2008, included a tough debate between Obama and Clinton, who pounded her rival for his recent remark that decades of economic decline had left some rural voters "bitter" and clinging to religion and guns.

On April 22, she won the Pennsylvania primary by 9.2 percentage points, keeping her campaign alive and bringing in a much-needed $4.3 million in new funds over the next 24 hours, although the campaign claimed the figure was $10 million.[319][352] Weekly churchgoers made up almost 36 percent of the electorate, who went to Clinton by a 56–44 margin. More than a third were gun owners, and they preferred Clinton by an almost-identical margin—60 percent to 40 percent, exit polls found out. The victory showed she had the better shot at winning on November 4, 2008, than he, she stated. A total of 158 delegates to the convention were at stake.[353]"

[riversedge]

5. We live in 2016. Catch up

[snooper2]

20. Clinton just a changin' with the times eh?

LOL

[LannyDeVaney]

6. Apparently, these brave women disagree with your assessment ...

(emphasis mine)

"Clinton, the women all agreed, had been the only candidate to reach out to them. That fact was stressed again and again in the more than an hour they spent here, speaking to a small group of mostly black voters.

Geneva Reed-Veal — the mother of Sandra Bland, the Illinois woman found hanging in a Texas jail cell last year — described Clinton as the kind of person you can "take your shoes off and have a conversation with."

"You can not fake passion," Reed-Veal said. "You cannot fake concern."

[AtheistCrusader]

21. "You can not fake passion," Reed-Veal said. "You cannot fake concern."

Like hell I can't.

That said, if that's true, the Sanders campaign didn't reach out to them, that would be a miss. No disagreement there.

[iamthebandfanman]

8. Shhh

youre not allowed to bring up the past..
because past decisions and stated beliefs give you no idea how a person really is , dontcha know !

[LannyDeVaney]

10. Really?

"You don’t change the system from within the Democratic Party.”

“My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.”

“We have to ask ourselves, ‘Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don’t agree with anything the Democratic Party says?’”

Care to guess who made these quotes?

[sus453]

22. I don't have to guess, but

self-serving politicians like Hillary Clinton, DWS, the Super Delegates, (and shame on Dolores Huerta) who use elections and friendships solely to further their own careers make me want to agree with those statements. I think as a human being you should first adhere to your principles rather than the organization or name of a party. If Hillary wins the nomination, I will not support her - in Maryland she'll win anyway. My vote will go to Jill Stein.

[LannyDeVaney]

25. So I take it you don't think Bernie Sanders putting a (D) next to his name ...

is using an election to further his own career?

Then why did he do it?

[onecaliberal]

26. He did it for party unity. He's been caucusing with them for decades.

His intention is not to rip it all down, but to help people, his while life's work has been about helping people. To suggest otherwise is complete bullshit.

[sus453]

35. I think he did it to further the

cause of progressivism in America. He doesn't appear to relish personal power, money, or influence.

[LanternWaste]

9. I too would minimize and trivialize the concerns of Sybrina Fulton and Geneva Reed-Veal

I too would minimize and trivialize the concerns of Sybrina Fulton and Geneva Reed-Veal if my political biases and grade-school petulance demanded it of me.

[leftynyc]

15. Feel free to go ahead

and face these women and tell them you know better than they do. I dare you. The petulance and pettiness of some of our Bernie supporters truly knows no bounds.

[AtheistCrusader]

23. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about a weather-vane candidate.

That said, I discovered a co-sponsorship for an earlier version of the End Racial Profiling Act that Hillary also endorsed. (Sanders endorsed the one before the senate right now)

I didn't think she had, she did, so they are on equal footing for legislation that could have helped prevent or provide for meaningful justice over the death of Eric Garner.

So, now that I know Hillary did support that bill, I will dial back my dismissal of her contribution. Mea culpa.

[sus453]

24. Petulance and pettiness, how about

pandering, using relatives of victims to oppose someone who is on their side. For those who have a legitimate reason to be against Bernie, why doesn't she instead get some of her Wall Street supporters to rally with her? That I would respect.

[leftynyc]

28. Spare me the unending bullshit

Was Bernie PANDERING when Eric Garner's daughter endorsed him? How hypocritical can you people get? It's already reached nauseating levels.

[SunSeeker]

11. K & R

[Vinca]

12. I have to say this.

Whether it's Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders I find the race to get victims' families to endorse absolutely disgusting. It's nothing short of victimizing the victimized. If they want to speak out on their own, fine, but parading them around a stage to get the pity vote turns my stomach.

[LannyDeVaney]

13. These women did speak out on their own ...

In my opinion, you're not giving these brave women any credit for making their own informed decisions.

Since when is standing up for change based on personal past experiences a "pity vote"?

[Vinca]

29. They're being exploited.

[riversedge]

31. They are strong intelligent women who are doing what they think is best. For you to berate them is

shameful

[Vinca]

32. I'm not berating them, I'm berating the candidates who are using them for votes.

I sympathize with the family members and hate to see them dragged around as props.

[riversedge]

33. You berate these moms when you give them no credit for their own choices and accuse them

of being sheep being dragged around. Shame of you.

[Vinca]

37. You're only saying that because Saint Hillary is one of the draggers.

[riversedge]

38. I am saying it because I believe you are demeaning the moms. Shame on you

[Vinca]

40. I think I'm doing just the opposite.

They aren't props. If Trump was doing it you'd be outraged.

[AlbertCat]

16. I find the race to get victims' families to endorse absolutely disgusting.

...

[Vinca]

27. It's reported as "breaking news" when a victim's family member endorses.

It's ghoulish.

[riversedge]

39. No, these moms endorsed Hillary months ago. Now they are campaigning for her as a group. That is

the news in SC

[AlbertCat]

41. It's ghoulish.

And strange.

Why would mothers of victims be assumed to know best whom to vote for?


Of course, why would movie stars or rock stars?

It's a strange kind of "appeal to authority" fallacy.

[RealAmericanDem]

14. These women sure earned the right to their opinions.

They know who will do the most for their community. Shame so many others don't.

[AlbertCat]

17. They know who will do the most for their community.

How do you know that?

[DinahMoeHum]

18. In the end, they will support the eventual Democratic nominee. . .

. . .whether it's Clinton or Sanders.

Bank on it.

[Corey_Baker08]

19. Sanders Has Had 30 To Stand Up To The NRA, What Makes You Think He's Gonna Start Now?

While Hillary Clinton Has An F- With The NRA Bernie Sanders Has Time & Time Again Had The Chance To Vote For Bills That The NRA Was Against, Yet He Failed To Do So.

Now That He's Running For President He Has Reversed His Position On This Issue Time & Time Again.

That's The Reason Bernie Sanders Has A D+ Rating With The NRA While Hillary Clinton Has An F-, For Those That Remember The Grading Scale In School An F- Is Failing, While A D+ Is Passing.

So To Say That Someone Who Has Had 30 Years & Multiple Opportunities To Stand Up To The NRA, Not Only Has He Failed To Do That, Bernie Sanders Has Gained Their Support With A Passing Grade Of A D+.

[sus453]

36. Actually, the grade is D minus

Granted, a D minus in elementary school will let a student slip by to the next grade (though as a former school teacher, I know that a grade of D- is usually a gift for someone who tried really hard, but couldn't quite pass). In college, a D average is failing.

This is the rating description given by the NRA:

D: An anti-gun candidate who usually supports restrictive gun control legislation and opposes pro-gun reforms. Regardless of public statements, can usually be counted on to vote wrong on key issues.

Does this sound like Bernie is soft on gun control?

[riversedge]

30. Clinton's advantage among blacks will have deep implications beyond Saturday's South Carolina vote w

true. and thinks for these moms in trying to made some good come out of their tragedies .



.... The issue of racism and the treatment of minorities at the hands of the justice system have been major themes of the Democratic campaign. The women appearing with Clinton — who have lost children in brushes with police or to violence — were due to make the case that the former secretary of state would take on the gun lobby, a campaign official told NBC News.
Bernie Sanders vows to keep fighting Hillary Clinton 0:53

Clinton's advantage among blacks will have deep implications beyond Saturday's South Carolina vote with Super Tuesday looming on March 1.

Sybrina Fulton is the mother of Trayvon Martin, who was shot and killed by George Zimmerman in Florida on Feb. 26, 2012. Geneva Reed-Veal is the mother of Sandra Bland, who was found dead in a Texas jail cell on July 13, 2015. Gwen Carr is mother of Eric Garner, who died after being held in a choke hold by police on July 17, 2014, in New York.

[AlbertCat]

42. Clinton's advantage among blacks will have deep implications beyond Saturday's South Carolina

Bad ones.
For blacks, unfortunately....

[riversedge]

34. Feb 21 South Carolina What a day at St. Peters AME Church #HRC #MothersOfTheMovement

More pics at link.....
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/110752888#post9

Feb 21 South Carolina What a day at St. Peters AME Church #HRC #MothersOfTheMovement
Stopping gun violence has always been a priority for Hillary




Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton Feb 18

We need to face up to the reality of systemic racism and then work to dismantle it.
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