Ron Paul Campaign Scrubs Radical Anti-Gay Pastor From Website
The Ron Paul campaign appears to have removed a press release touting the endorsement of Rev. Phillip G. Kayser, a Nebraska pastor who has called for instituting the death penalty against homosexuals.
http://tinyurl.com/bneh7ez
comipinko
(541 posts)he has moved it to the "cabinet appointee" page, under "Attorney General"
sellitman
(11,607 posts)What a worthless piece of crap this man is.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)
'There is no comparing Paul and Santorum, said [Dan] Savage, because Paul is a leave-us-alone libertarian. Ron is older than my father, far less toxic than Santorum, and, as he isn't beloved of religious conservatives, he isn't out there stoking the hatreds of our social and political enemies, he explained.
And Ron may not like gay people, and may not want to hang out with us or use our toilets, but he's content to leave us the fuck alone and recognizes that gay citizens are entitled to the same rights as all other citizens. Santorum, on the other hand, believes that his bigotry must be given the force of law. That's an important difference.
Thats more or less what Paul and his campaign say about all of the newsletters. The mans been in public office, on and off, since 1976. Wheres the anti-gay record? In 2004, Paul was one of only 27 House Republicans who voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. In 2010, he flipped from a no to a yes on repealing Dont Ask, Dont Tell.
I have received several calls and visits from constituents who, in spite of the heavy investment in their training, have been forced out of the military simply because they were discovered to be homosexual," he explained. To me, this seems like an awful waste.
Hes worked alongside gay libertarians before. Would-be social conservative kingmakers say they cant back Paul because his federalism would let gay rights flower in the states. Sometimes, Iowa FAMiLY Leader CEO Bob Vander Plaats said this month, his libertarian views trump his moral compass.'
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2011/12/ron_paul_s_anti_gay_newsletters_why_they_don_t_bother_liberal_gays.single.html
Others may be warned off, even if libertarian policies lead to fascism. Historically, those with sufficient wealth, have not suffered from being different than the majority. That's the libertarian version of freedom and liberty, that those with the wealth, can live without being bothered.
Is anyone going to harm Cheney's daughter or Robertson's son, or any children of wealthy scions anymore than Bush's twins were punished? No, these pogroms won't apply to them, they will apply to the rest of us, though. So hopefully many will note the long-term plan of Paulites:
'Reached by phone, Kayser confirmed to TPM that he believed in reinstating Biblical punishments for homosexuals including the death penalty even if he didnt see much hope for it happening anytime soon. While he said he and Paul disagree on gay rights, noting that Paul recently voted for repealing Dont Ask Dont Tell, he supported the campaign because he believed Pauls federalist take on the Constitution would allow states more latitude to implement fundamentalist law. Especially since under Kaysers own interpretation of the Constitution there is no separation of Church and State.
Under a Ron Paul presidency, states would be freed up to not have political correctness imposed on them, but obviously some state would follow whats politically correct, he said. What hes trying to do, whether he agrees with the Constitutions position or not, is restrict himself to the Constitution. That is something I very much appreciate.
Kaysers allegiance to the Paul campaign may reflect who the campaign has chosen to sell Paul to the churches. Mike Heath, who became Ron Pauls Iowa state director this fall, has spent his career on the Christian right. In Iowa, Heath has focused on outreach to the religious community in the state, where Paul has made an effort to target evangelical voters.
Heath spent 14 years running the Christian Civic League of Maine (which has since changed its name). As a prominent figure in Maine, Heath slowly alienated the Christian right in the state with his extreme tactics. In 2004, for example, he launched a witch hunt to out gay members of the Maine legislature, asking supporters, according to the Portland Press Herald, to e-mail us tips, rumors, speculation and facts regarding the sexual orientation of the states political leaders, adding, We are, of course, most interested in the leaders among us who want to overturn marriage, eliminate the mother/father family as the ideal, etc. The result was that his own organization suspended him for a month.'
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/ron-paul-hired-anti-gay-activist-to-run-iowa-campaign.php
Democrats can vote for Paul's 'anti-war' stance, despite his caveat, his willingness to engage in 'declared wars,' and his stance on marijuana as he is against regulating the 'free market.'
If people overlook his extreme social and financial conservativism, for what they consider might help their personal interest at the expense of others, they'll vote for him like any good Republican, or stay at home, their defacto vote for the GOP.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Once it's on the net, it's the gift that keeps on giving. Ask Bible Spice about that.
Psst Paul, either you believe this and you should man up for your beliefs. Or, you're a posser and you're merely throwing red meat to the mouth breathers.
Which it is: Coward or hypocrite? Probably both.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I'm contusion amazed at how the repups just don't get this Internet tube thingy.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)not possible. Never mind.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I am quite aware that he coined that stupidity. The thing that blows me away, is that this is not new technology, but looking at the republicans and the police, you would think they were unaware of how these tubes work, and work really fast.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)it happens anytime any repuke suddenly leads the pack. They have their lackies quickly go through their website to scrub any stupid thing they said in the past that might throw their lead in jeopardy.
paul now is feeling the weight of his new found ego.
notice, now more than before, he's evading questions and being more vague. Or my personal favorite, he turns the tables on the questioner and puts them on the spot instead of answering the question.
I honestly can't see how any libertarian halfwit could ever believe that paul was a straight shooter when he's never answering questions about the rest of his platform other than legalizing pot and getting out of the war.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)over the eyes of some of those on DU is staggering.
I don't understand the appeal of Paul or libertarianism in general. It's a juvenile philosophy at best.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Not everyone can be the sharpest tool in the shed.
Then again, some come here thinking that if Liberal Equals Tolerant, it must also mean "putting up with their idiotic shit." They find out soon enough that this isn't quite the case here.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Those 295 churches should all have their tax exempt status revoked ASAP.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Since Kayser doesn't believe in the separation of church and state. No conflict to the Paulites.
AlwaysQuestion
(442 posts)I get such a pit in my stomach when I realize that there are actually people out there who would persecute groups of other people whose only crime is following what Mother Nature has emphatically declared is their sexual orientation. I'm just glad that my sexual orientation was designated heterosexual because quite frankly I don't think I'd have the strength to constantly be battling to be just who I am. That one of the nutters is an actual physician horrifies me. That another is a pastor who's a believer in a loving god--well, that just sends me over the divide. And now we have other nutters trying to cover up Paul's shameful, repugnant endorsement. These oh so dangerous crackpots are beyond understanding at any level. We are right to express our collective disgust!!
Balthasar Bekker
(11 posts)If he were racist, why was he the only Texas House Republican to vote in favor of making Rev. Martin Luther King Day a national holiday?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-groshoff/ron-paul-homophobic_b_1171695.html
sarge43
(28,945 posts)He's anything anyone wants him to be at any given time, ie a hypocrite.
Balthasar Bekker
(11 posts)sellitman
(11,607 posts)They all have miles to go
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)musette_sf
(10,206 posts)R Paul is not a Democrat.
slay
(7,670 posts)and i'll say right now that i AM troubled enough with his past that i could never vote for him. but you have to admit he does drawn from a relatively large spectrum of people when getting supporters. i know a few misinformed Dems who are thinking of voting for him - best thing to do is to show them why they shouldn't vote for Ron Paul. Calling someone a "fanbois" is nowhere near as good as refuting his argument with facts IMO.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)Ron Paul Apologists aka fanbois have no place spouting this stuff on here, as per the Admins. The poster isn't "discussing" Ron Paul, he is boostering him, and throwing President Obama under the bus in order to do so.
slay
(7,670 posts)i know other Dems here are fine with censoring others though.
i saw nowhere in his post where he was trying to get others to support ron paul, but whatever - i don't support ron paul but see no reason why he can not be discussed since he is one of the people who might face Obama in 2012.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)As per EarlG. He just banned a long-time poster for this.
slay
(7,670 posts)but i strongly disagree with it.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)musette_sf
(10,206 posts)and I would not have made my comment had the poster been DISCUSSING. But the poster was SUPPORTING.
slay
(7,670 posts)but i don't support the man himself. i don't know enough about the poster to know what he meant in regards to ron paul.