Obama gets Iran deal win as Senate Dems amass enough votes (UPDATED)
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Source: AP-Excite
By ERICA WERNER
WASHINGTON (AP) President Barack Obama secured a landmark foreign policy victory Wednesday as Senate Democrats amassed enough votes to ensure the Iran nuclear deal survives in Congress despite ferocious opposition from Republicans and the government of Israel.
Democratic Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland became the crucial 34th vote in favor of the agreement.
"No deal is perfect, especially one negotiated with the Iranian regime," Mikulski said in a statement. She called the accord "the best option available to block Iran from having a nuclear bomb. For these reasons, I will vote in favor of this deal."
The backing from Mikulski, who is retiring next year, gives supporters the margin they need to uphold an Obama veto of a congressional resolution of disapproval if Republicans pass such a measure later this month.
FULL story at link.
Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150902/us--congress-iran-nuclear-546f1c3061.html
I will update this when it becomes available.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Tom Cotton (R-Traitor)
Chuck Schumer ("D"-Netanyahu)
Joe Liebermann (?-Douche)
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)It's fabulous and brilliant!
2banon
(7,321 posts)brooklynite
(94,497 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)And thank you to Senator Gillibrand for doing the right thing!!!
Fuck Schumer.
orange you glad
(50 posts)And Bibi, too!
rpannier
(24,329 posts)100% x 100
4lbs
(6,855 posts)1.) It will show them how much of a pig's ass they are on this issue.
2.) It is guaranteed to be one thing that AIPAC *WON'T* want from them.
Botany
(70,489 posts)Thanx to John Kerry and Erinie Moniz.
Duval
(4,280 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)the "untethered" President Badass....
I secretly believe he is living the part of Michael Rennie in the Day the Earth Stood Still. With this man, absolutely nothing would surprise me...
George II
(67,782 posts)lamp_shade
(14,827 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)That stunned silence you hear is a mass media scrambling to the propaganda war rooms to put a war-loving and Bibi-consoling spin.
No way the propaganda masters and propaganda warriors in ther posh boardrooms high above the rubble and rabble far below in Rockefeller Square had a Plan B (for Bomb) when Team Obama clinches the victory before the fourth quarter even started!
Please ignore the weapons of mass distraction when deployed, they are all unarmed.
Landmark and Legacy Victory.
Many more to come in in the next 17 months of Obama's awesome reign over the American Christian caliphate.
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I will stay on this thread - not the many others to be posted - until you update.
Make this a No Spin Zone!
lamp_shade
(14,827 posts)Botany
(70,489 posts)Clutches pearls stumbles to fainting couch .....
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Botany
(70,489 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Kerry now on CNN Live with REAL Breaking News...total opposite of 'breaking' news on a Trump utterance....now being the consummate diplomat, child'splaining in a weary way to the Usual Idiots lying about the deal,.......while surely having a Great Happy Happy Joy Joy inside..."I will dispel some of the misinformation that has been circulating in Congress".
Go get me, sir.
And congratulations, sincerely.
Time to celebrate, America, and, to repeat, fuck the usual gloom and doomers and the mass media that refuses to let Americans celebrate anything.
Cha
(297,129 posts)✔ ?@DavidCornDC
Now that Obama reversed the economic collapse, passed Obamacare, killed bin Laden & got the #IranDeal I wonder what the next failure will be
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http://theobamadiary.com/2015/09/02/irandeal-veto-proof/#comments
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)I've never heard of that happening before. Usually such protests take place on the floor of the Senate. Standing in front of Senator Gillibrand's New York City office throwing a tantrum is -- to use a Southern term -- just plain tacky.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)In the box put one little sausage, on the note put: "if you ever do that again I'll make sure you regret it"
zentrum
(9,865 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Cruz, Graham, Hukster, Trump, Bushies and their cronies and the rest of the chorus of doom and gloom will be out in full force with all the coverage the media will give them.
"Give peace a chance" - Pres O.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Celebration of the achievements of President Obama must be like kryptonite to the silly doom and gloomers and the sky is falling screamers that inhabit the media and the GOP.
I say....bring in the kryptonite! If not now, when?
What a bunch of downers they all are, am I right?
Cha
(297,129 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)for the Bad Ass POTUS
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)AllyCat
(16,177 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Good stuff!
joshdawg
(2,647 posts)Wow! All of the whining and crying and threatening going on over there makes me proud of our President more than ever.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Talk about trolls and haters.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)I can find that information from sources that attract less crazy people
still_one
(92,126 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)still_one
(92,126 posts)for some time, with the hopes to mess things up:
"Opponents of the Iran deal arent expecting the Congressional vote next month to go their way, but they are already planning for the day after their loss. Republicans in Congress are preparing several bills to sanction Iran. Even if those never reach a vote, the proposals could be problematic for Democrats well into 2016."
...
In the Senate, Kirk is now working with Marco Rubio to explore new legislation, several Senate aides said. Menendez is working separately with Lindsey Graham. Kirk and Menendez also have a bill to reauthorize the Iran Sanctions Act, set to expire at the end of 2016, for 10 more years.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-25/republicans-plan-iran-sanctions-after-vote-on-nuclear-deal
So while what is happening is good, it is far from over
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)still_one
(92,126 posts)few more votes, the veto will NOT even be necessary, which is an even more important statement
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)even when they agreed to no such vote just 3 months ago!
Whatever garbage oozes out of the pieholes of any GOP politician the mass media will declare it apple pie!
still_one
(92,126 posts)a veto, it will effectively prevent a republican Plan B
Duval
(4,280 posts)talking briefly about this. He mentioned the prospect of a Republican filibuster. Guess we'll have to "wait and see" how this pans out. Sigh! Just read on Kos that 7 more Dems needed to block filibuster.
still_one
(92,126 posts)sanction based on different criteria
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-25/republicans-plan-iran-sanctions-after-vote-on-nuclear-deal
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)This is all they got...theatre.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)Unless, so many Republicans were so impressed by Lugar's words that they now support it and an APPROVAL resolution has more than 50 votes -- and they are trying to stop that by filibustering it.
That is actually what SHOULD happen, but that is not our current dysfunctional state.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)haven't signed up to support the treaty. The support seems to be trickling in here & there.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I think that's why the red state Senators--Donnelly, McCaskill, Tester--are voting for it--they'd rather lose an election than have dead and maimed kids from their states on their consciences.
Hopefully we/they have learned the lesson of Vietnam. And more recently, Afghanistan and Iraq.
Diplomacy is the way to avoid these senseless wars.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Love her! This is great news showing that good things can still get done in this congress.
Cheers to President Obama and the rest of his team pushing this through!
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Thanks...
Renew Deal
(81,855 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)repeal it anyway...it is all now just pure theatre to pander to the ever willing to be pandered to base...any blubbering is good enough if it involves hating the Muslim foreign-borne usurper President the base sincerely believes to be true.....according to all polls.
maxsolomon
(33,297 posts)34 Democratic Senators should have been lined up THE DAY THE DEAL WAS ANNOUNCED.
International Diplomacy is too important for these kind of games. We look like spoiled squabbling children to the EU. But they're probably used to it at this point.
BumRushDaShow
(128,824 posts)And my Senator (Casey) came out in support earlier this morning.
We just need to make sure we have a good turnout come the general election in 2016 so that we can retain the White House and hopefully pick up more seats (and maybe, just maybe take back a legislative chamber).
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)This has got be O's greatest foreign policy achievement!
ananda
(28,856 posts)I hate cliffhangers.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)on this deal, it is very important that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. Mikulski was right to do so. We'll see if Mark Warner and Cory Booker will support the deal.
harun
(11,348 posts)SnakeEyes
(1,407 posts)Or will be controlled by rational people in the future and not those that think they can hasten the end times and want to.
harun
(11,348 posts)other unnamed country can't quite say that.
SnakeEyes
(1,407 posts)if that is your criteria.
Currently, I'd say their rhetoric is pretty out there and I'd rather take those that threaten violence at their word.
harun
(11,348 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Ain't it great!
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)I wrote to Senator Mikulski THREE times to urge her support of this bill.
I received a response to my second letter in which she mentioned that several constituents had been concerned about the deal's adverse impact on Israel.
In my third letter, I posted links to J Street, to the 340 rabbis' endorsement, and to the ex-Mossad chief's endorsement, among others. I also mentioned that, as a MD voter, I believed that she as a member of the US Congress owed more to the US and to this President than she did to Israel and to the Israeli President.
I also mentioned that, according to most experts, Israel's two major problems today are not military: they are the in-area demographics and the growing trend toward de-legitimization of Israel in the global community due to Israeli policies of demolishing Palestinian houses in the West Bank, settling hard-liners on those lands, and continuing to treat Gaza as a 21st-century version of the Warsaw Ghetto.
Voting against this Iran Deal would only serve to isolate both the US and Israel even more - which is the far more dangerous course.
Whether those arguments were among those that persuaded her - or whether she had the good sense to come to that conclusion on her own - I am very happy that she did so. Now, I hope that Senator Cardin will have the good sense to do the same.
chuckie29
(9 posts)I thought it was my email that convinced her. But I only sent one email, so you have me beat. I sent one to Senator Cardin also, but have heard crickets. Maybe it's good that she doesn't need to solicit any more campaign funds.
For those talking about filibusters and veto over-rides, I think that was the point of 34 Senators. Foreign policy is under the purview of the Executive branch unless the terms are made illegal by legislation. If the executive branch vetoes that legislation, the veto could be overridden by 2/3 of the Senate and 2/3 of the House. There are probably enough votes in the House but they need both houses to veto. In the Senate, 2/3 * 100 = 66.6666 (67 votes). If 34 are in favor, there are not 67 votes available to override (34+67=101) and it makes no difference what the house does. I may be wrong, I've never seen it spelled out except noting that 34 Senate votes is what the President needed, so I'm just filling in what I think I know about the Constitution. I assume somebody will tell me if I'm wrong.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Martin Eden
(12,863 posts)Wish it would happen more often.
sorechasm
(631 posts)Such a rarity these days. Thank you PBO and SOS Kerry (who never gets enough credit.)
TBF
(32,045 posts)we've got to try a peaceful approach. I know some folks would rather just engage militarily, but I have to believe the vast majority of people in Iran (like the US) really don't want war.
Hekate
(90,641 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Love her. We'll miss her at the end of her term. I wrote to her today to thank her for her support for this deal and also for all she has done in her years in the Senate.
Cha
(297,129 posts)Mahalo Steve~
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)I wonder which repug the RNC will send to "console" him tonight in bed
historylovr
(1,557 posts)Karma13612
(4,552 posts)sueh
(1,826 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They NEED Iran to be a boogeyman just like they needed UBL.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I learned that right here on DU.