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Galraedia

(5,028 posts)
Tue May 8, 2012, 02:35 PM May 2012

Fox News Guest: Allowing Women To Vote ‘One Of The Greatest Mistakes That America Made’

Source: ThinkProgress

The Raw Story uncovered a sermon that Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson gave in March in which he spends 10 minutes lecturing his audience about how women have destroyed America. Lee is a radical pastor who says that allowing women to vote was “one of the greatest mistakes that America made.”


“Look at every place where a women is in control,” said Peterson. “You see nothing but confusion. There’s no good in it at all, none.”

Peterson’s sermon began with comments about Sandra Fluke, doubling down on Rush Limbaugh’s slut remarks. But halfway through his speech, he kicked the hate into another gear:

PETERSON: “I think that one of the greatest mistakes that America made was to allow women the opportunity to vote. We should have never turned that over to women.”

“It was a big mistake…these women are voting in the wrong people. They’re voting in people who are evil, who agree with them…Men in the good old days understood the nature of the women, they were not afraid to deal with them.”

“Wherever women are taking over, evil reigns."


Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/05/08/479998/jesse-lee-peterson-women-vote/
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Fox News Guest: Allowing Women To Vote ‘One Of The Greatest Mistakes That America Made’ (Original Post) Galraedia May 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy May 2012 #1
Sounds like a closeted guy usrname May 2012 #2
I had a roommate in grad school who said the same sorts of things. harmonicon May 2012 #21
WHY IN THE FUCK IS THAT THE FIRST THOUGHT ON WHENEVER SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING STUPID? dbackjon May 2012 #43
Apparently, it is all the gays fault and there is no such thing as a misogynist straight man. Luminous Animal May 2012 #46
Mine was "What an asshole" cstanleytech May 2012 #60
mine was, "I'm gonna stick a pin in my voodoo doll right in his forehead" wordpix May 2012 #78
He sounds like a misogynist straight man that has issues with women. Luminous Animal May 2012 #50
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Marrah_G May 2012 #61
Do you not know any gay men? Creideiki May 2012 #65
Just when I thought nothing will surprise me... iandhr May 2012 #3
tell me about it... secondwind May 2012 #13
Ann Coulter has been saying this for years... DLine May 2012 #4
Even Ann Coulter would admit she doesn't believe that if you got a few drinks in her Blue_Tires May 2012 #8
Tokyo Rose has nothing on Ann Coulter. Selling out your country is a strange objective yet there are The Wielding Truth May 2012 #19
hey... she voted twice, what she talking about? nt seabeyond May 2012 #9
See, that's just evidence that women can't properly vote. harmonicon May 2012 #22
lmfao... i knew that why i was typing. it is all so confusing, ya know. nt seabeyond May 2012 #27
Not so fast. I think she voted as a man in one of the cases. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #28
~lol. CrispyQ May 2012 #72
Fear of the Vagina hamsterjill May 2012 #5
Did the female Faux News talking heads cheer?! polichick May 2012 #6
Oh yeah, that League of Women Voters is a whole cauldron of evil... FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #7
I LOVE the league of women voters. harmonicon May 2012 #24
Oh I am completely with you on the League. FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #39
member of the League for 10 years. CarmanK May 2012 #42
I wish the LWV still ran the presidential debate hifiguy May 2012 #75
That one all the way to the right is clearly the ringleader NickB79 May 2012 #76
Any bets as to how many times Peterson has been married? Archae May 2012 #10
And any bets on how many times he's had surgical repair following "Bobbitting"? n/t HereSince1628 May 2012 #12
Yet, there are women in his congregation and they support his beliefs. bulloney May 2012 #11
Look how many Catholic women there are, when that church... polichick May 2012 #14
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #17
hayrow1 tru May 2012 #47
I seriously doubt more than 2% of the male population would vote for hayrow1 May 2012 #53
hayrow1 tru May 2012 #70
And, how is this is relevant to the fact that 25 - 40% of females always vote to have their bodies hayrow1 May 2012 #73
PHEW Iliyah May 2012 #15
He says racist things about blacks too JonLP24 May 2012 #80
Look at every place where a women is in control, AlbertCat May 2012 #16
Iceland in 2012. Amonester May 2012 #23
New Zealand had a female PM for nine years wickerwoman May 2012 #74
I remember this fool. LA right wing radio would allow him to talk nonsense... Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #18
Last I checked, Iceland is (now) governed by women. Amonester May 2012 #20
The purportrators of Christianity, Peter and Paul Dawson Leery May 2012 #25
Actually, the works that scholars actually attribute to Paul are full of powerful women... antigone382 May 2012 #62
He must not be getting any. JoePhilly May 2012 #26
every once in a while barbtries May 2012 #29
I'd suggest he come up for a visit to WA... countryjake May 2012 #30
Women should be uneducated, married out of HS, and constantly pregnant HockeyMom May 2012 #31
This is how many of the Quiverfull types operate LibertyLover May 2012 #32
I remember during discussions sulphurdunn May 2012 #41
Let me guess. Reverend Peterson doesn't believe in evolution. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2012 #33
The guy is looking for his 15 minutes and looks like he's getting it. IndyJones May 2012 #34
Peterson has been around a long time.. butterfly77 May 2012 #36
what? rtracey May 2012 #35
I want to know how many LittleGirl May 2012 #37
Oh, but there's no war on women. meeksgeek May 2012 #38
One of the greatest mistakes sulphurdunn May 2012 #40
+1,000,000 meeksgeek May 2012 #49
Someone needs to read about their History. Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel May 2012 #44
We were able to "legally" vote long before that.... Blue_Tires May 2012 #77
OK. So at least this guy is honest about the conservative view of women, JDPriestly May 2012 #45
Cenk has been talking about this guy for years Enrique May 2012 #48
Vote for Obama felix_numinous May 2012 #51
Wow, this isn't much different from the Taliban way of thinking, scary. sarcasmo May 2012 #52
What freaking country does this idiot thinks he lives in?? AsahinaKimi May 2012 #54
Wat dafuq is that idiot smoking? Jesus!!! Odin2005 May 2012 #55
Hey Peterson guss May 2012 #56
Does he think Margaret Thatcher was a foul up? What about Sarah Palin? muntrv May 2012 #57
makes sense? olddad56 May 2012 #58
Why does the United States allow Fox to continue broadcasting? Mosaic May 2012 #59
because they are the proaganda arm of the GOP, which is also totally unamerican. olddad56 May 2012 #66
sure, Thatcher's Britain, Merkel's Germany, cesspools of evil 0rganism May 2012 #63
What a peach! LASlibinSC May 2012 #64
Queen Elizabeth since 1953??? Manifestor_of_Light May 2012 #67
I asked Mrs. grantcart and she told me I disagreed. grantcart May 2012 #68
The confusion he sees is his, but because he's so confused about it lunatica May 2012 #69
"wherever women are taking over, evil reigns"? newspeak May 2012 #71
Bombs silky May 2012 #79
This guy just canceled out a million Republican votes. sofa king May 2012 #81
A fine thought on Mothers Day. undeterred May 2012 #82
And we think this brand of mysogyny is limited to Islamic fundamentalists? randr May 2012 #83
Only Islam has extremists? Dawson Leery May 2012 #84
Fox News Analyst Jesse Lee Peterson Thanks Whites on Slavery Ash_F May 2012 #85
Kirsten Powers Confronts Hannity's Misogynistic, Racist Pal Ash_F May 2012 #86
Kicking for exposure - TBF May 2012 #87

Response to Galraedia (Original post)

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
21. I had a roommate in grad school who said the same sorts of things.
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:45 PM
May 2012

His mother abandoned him when he was very young to be raised by his grandparents. It was actually very said, but not so said that I had any sympathy with his misogyny.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
43. WHY IN THE FUCK IS THAT THE FIRST THOUGHT ON WHENEVER SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING STUPID?
Tue May 8, 2012, 05:24 PM
May 2012

He must be in the closet.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
50. He sounds like a misogynist straight man that has issues with women.
Tue May 8, 2012, 06:10 PM
May 2012

Why would you try to smear gays with the hateful rantings of a women-hating straight man?

Creideiki

(2,567 posts)
65. Do you not know any gay men?
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:55 PM
May 2012

Or does "being gay" mean that someone has issues?

Christ that's a moronic idea for someone to hold in the 21st century.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
3. Just when I thought nothing will surprise me...
Tue May 8, 2012, 02:46 PM
May 2012

... a new even more crazy statement comes out from the extreme radical right.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. Even Ann Coulter would admit she doesn't believe that if you got a few drinks in her
Tue May 8, 2012, 02:50 PM
May 2012

But she knows what side her paychecks are buttered on, so she keeps the crazy turned up to 11

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
19. Tokyo Rose has nothing on Ann Coulter. Selling out your country is a strange objective yet there are
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:16 PM
May 2012

those who enjoy the limelight so much that it is a kick to them to misrepresent and mislead.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
5. Fear of the Vagina
Tue May 8, 2012, 02:50 PM
May 2012

Sounds like a jerk with some real problems with females.

Are we really still dealing with idiots like this, with idiot ideas LIKE this, in 2012?

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
24. I LOVE the league of women voters.
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:50 PM
May 2012

I think they do more to bring about an informed electorate than any other group. I absolutely rely on their voter guides for the down ballot races, especially those with several slots.

For those who may not know, their voter guides have nothing to do with advocating any candidate. They simply send out questionnaires to all candidates and publish their responses in the guide.

CarmanK

(662 posts)
42. member of the League for 10 years.
Tue May 8, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

They do really good work. And in my county, they cleaned out some riff-raff and made poll monitors accountable. They also worked for upgrading election technology and demanded absolute clarity and made sure every voter has their right to vote.
FL GOP was so desperate, they made the voter registration process so difficult the FL League has pulled out of voter registration. It is a disgrace and all of FL shld be ashamed. They voted these extreme right wing bigots into office, they need to get them out before they poison the whole state and Super Thief in chief, runs off with the STATE TREASURY.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
75. I wish the LWV still ran the presidential debate
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:57 PM
May 2012

process. I remember when they did and debates were better back then - more informative and less grandstanding.

NickB79

(19,288 posts)
76. That one all the way to the right is clearly the ringleader
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:35 PM
May 2012

I'd hate to run into her in a dark alley in the middle of the night, she looks like she can really fuck you up.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
14. Look how many Catholic women there are, when that church...
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:00 PM
May 2012

...obviously considers women "less than."

All of them, Republican women included, enable those who would keep them down. So sad!

Response to bulloney (Reply #11)

 

tru

(237 posts)
47. hayrow1
Tue May 8, 2012, 05:54 PM
May 2012

In contrast to men, of course, like that guy. I don't think many women were in the KKK either.

Sounds like you and Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson would get along well.

 

hayrow1

(198 posts)
53. I seriously doubt more than 2% of the male population would vote for
Tue May 8, 2012, 06:52 PM
May 2012

any candidate that proposed every sexual act be exclusively for pro-creation. However, polls show that a large minority of females vote for candidates that propose and vote for laws that deem a womans body be used exclusively as an incubator for any voluntary or involuntary sexual occurance.

To me, this is a huge problem for every member of both genders.

 

tru

(237 posts)
70. hayrow1
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:53 AM
May 2012

Let me introduce you to Operation Rescue. What do you think the gender demographic of that is.

 

hayrow1

(198 posts)
73. And, how is this is relevant to the fact that 25 - 40% of females always vote to have their bodies
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:34 PM
May 2012

treated as incubators? Please explain.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
15. PHEW
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:02 PM
May 2012

I wonder if he feels the same way about Blacks voting? I mean wasn't that a mistake also? The goppers are doing their darnest to reflect voting from minorities, why not women, since a great many of the goppers think women are 2nd class citizens (even dumbass gop women).

When will this insane party of no explode? Soon I hope.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
80. He says racist things about blacks too
Sun May 13, 2012, 08:20 AM
May 2012

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

What would you do?
What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, then you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

------------------------------------------------------

It is from John Rocker's hate site that I refuse to link too, I came across it when I looked him up when a Braves pitcher made a homophobic comment.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
16. Look at every place where a women is in control,
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:07 PM
May 2012

Renaissance England?

18th Century Russia?

19th Century England?

India in the 1960's and 1970's?

Great Britain in the 1980's?


I dunno.... they seem to do as well, if not better considering, than men.

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
74. New Zealand had a female PM for nine years
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:56 PM
May 2012

and it's certainly one of the first countries you think of when you hear the word "evil".

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
20. Last I checked, Iceland is (now) governed by women.
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:43 PM
May 2012

They managed to kick the corrupt men's butt out, and are currently doing a pretty good cleanup...

How More Out-Of-Touch™ can that hate pRopagandi$t be??

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
62. Actually, the works that scholars actually attribute to Paul are full of powerful women...
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:44 PM
May 2012

...Paul's letters repeatedly reference important women serving prominent roles in the church and in missionary work. There are of course texts in the New Testament that bear Paul's name and declare that women should remain silent, but most scholars do not believe they were actually written by Paul, because the language used is not his style, and the events referenced are more in keeping with a later time period than when Paul actually lived. It was quite common at that point in history for works to be written in the name of a famous teacher or philosopher (which Paul certainly was to the early Christians) as a way of honoring that person, or claiming that one's work was written in the same spirit as that teacher's works. It was a literary convention and was not considered dishonest, but it is quite confusing today.

In actuality, many early Christian sects were remarkably egalitarian, so much so that they challenged and undermined Roman social structure. Paul himself writes that in Christianity there is no longer male and female, no longer master and slave, as all are equal in Christ. However, Paul also advocated an adaptability to the existing social structure in order to avoid what he perceived as unnecessary offense, and thus further the spread of the gospel, as in his perspective that women should wear veils in Church if it is the social norm where they are, rather than cause scandal. Unfortunately, this adaptability inevitably led to a more mainstream and less revolutionary early church. As the more radically liberal Christian sects were weeded out through persecution, the sects that were better able to conform to mainstream Roman mores, survived and eventually dominated the religion. Many of the descriptions of appropriate family relations found in the later Christian works, particularly those (most likely) falsely attributed to Paul, could have been lifted straight out of Aristotle.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
30. I'd suggest he come up for a visit to WA...
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:05 PM
May 2012

except I wouldn't want him and his Brotherhood getting a foothold in my state.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
31. Women should be uneducated, married out of HS, and constantly pregnant
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:07 PM
May 2012

No better than slaves. That is what they want.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
32. This is how many of the Quiverfull types operate
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:22 PM
May 2012

Their wives are not allowed to vote and their daughters are not allowed to register. Sons, of course, are taken to register the minute they turn 18. And heck, a year or so ago some state representative in one of the mid-west states said the same thing, that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. What made it particularly disturbing in that case was that the state rep was a woman.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
41. I remember during discussions
Tue May 8, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

of the women's movement back in the early 70s, a friend of mine proposed that the world would be a more just place if more women were elevated to positions of power in society. Sadly, they have and it hasn't. Women in power are every bit as virtuous or corrupt as men. They are no better or worse and are still not even equal.

 

butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
36. Peterson has been around a long time..
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:49 PM
May 2012

he is one of Hannity's favorites especially if the issue concerns black people..

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
35. what?
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:33 PM
May 2012

"Men in the good old days understood the nature of the women, they were not afraid to deal with them.” ... Does he not remember what the racist bigoted men in the good old days did to men like him? He is an arrogant, sexist prick himself who needs to remember history, but I guess some "good old boy" repubs are still pissed at that Democrat Wilson, and his supporting Womens Suffrage movement, or Democrat Johnson on his Civil Rights act... Help Us Vote Them Out Ladies.

LittleGirl

(8,292 posts)
37. I want to know how many
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:53 PM
May 2012

women walked out during that sermon. Surely, there was hell fire to deal with afterward.
Sorry, don't have time to read the link.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
77. We were able to "legally" vote long before that....
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:55 PM
May 2012

pretty much dating all the way back to Reconstruction...The VRA just cleared away the bullshit obstacles, jim crow laws, intimidation, etc.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
45. OK. So at least this guy is honest about the conservative view of women,
Tue May 8, 2012, 05:45 PM
May 2012

especially the view of the religious right.

Thanks for posting this.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
54. What freaking country does this idiot thinks he lives in??
Tue May 8, 2012, 07:50 PM
May 2012

Its people like him, who should NEVER gain any kind of power... ever. Perhaps his little church should have its tax exemption taken away..and people who have heard about this, should shun him. He's an bigoted idiot of the highest form.

guss

(239 posts)
56. Hey Peterson
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:03 PM
May 2012

Wtg peterson. you are a definitely telling all women what they fought for... to vote against u and your interests. putting women in the corner is not a way to gain votes for your party. (unless u are strict ultra muslim acid thrower, or a butter churning amish church head.) thanks for clarifying up who they should support.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
58. makes sense?
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:52 PM
May 2012

“Look at every place where a women is in control,” said Peterson. “You see nothing but confusion. There’s no good in it at all, none.”

After having Dubya for a president, it sort makes it hard for this clown to make his case.

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
59. Why does the United States allow Fox to continue broadcasting?
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:55 PM
May 2012

It is totally un-American and should be shut down. We must demand legislation to make it illegal for all the harm it has done, the smears against Americans, our President, the list is endless. This demands activism, it is time to shut this outrageous cancer on our nation down!

0rganism

(23,987 posts)
63. sure, Thatcher's Britain, Merkel's Germany, cesspools of evil
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:18 PM
May 2012

Hitler's Germany? no problem for this guy.

LASlibinSC

(269 posts)
64. What a peach!
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:33 PM
May 2012

There's a special place for people that use religion to hurt and demean others. Looks like they're gonna need a bigger place.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
67. Queen Elizabeth since 1953???
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:19 AM
May 2012

Even though she is not a politician.

Queen Victoria?

Does he know there are women on the Supreme Court?

How about if we take away his real property and then deny him the right to vote? After all, the only people who could vote after the Constitution was ratified were white men who owned real property, not just personal property.

Molly Ivins talks about "propertied white males" but does not explain that it means real estate (land with surface rights and/or mineral rights) and not personal property.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
69. The confusion he sees is his, but because he's so confused about it
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:56 AM
May 2012

he's blaming women for confusing him. I think.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
71. "wherever women are taking over, evil reigns"?
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:13 AM
May 2012

is this ignorant boob for real? When some men take over evil reigns, you arsehole! Maybe he doesn't think hitler, mussolini, jim jones, stalin, and others who committed crimes against humanity are evil. Iceland, I think finland have many women in their government and are doing just fine.

If this man wants to move to SA, Iran (oops women vote there) or one of the other suppressive countries, I'll pack his bags.

Why do they give these nuts a sounding board? What's the media's motive? This man deserves no attention. And any woman who goes along with this shite, is either abused or being taken care of, where she doesn't give a shite about her own rights.

These neanderthals are taking the country backwards. His america, I wouldn't want any of my family members to be a part of, including the males. And, hey most of my ancestors were the first ones over and meeting the ships on the shore. We've fought hard for those voting rights, you cretin!

silky

(1 post)
79. Bombs
Sun May 13, 2012, 03:00 AM
May 2012

And all those women should just stop dropping bombs all over the place killing innocent people and destroying countries !

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
81. This guy just canceled out a million Republican votes.
Sun May 13, 2012, 09:56 AM
May 2012

Because no matter how bad he wishes, women do vote and he just pissed off an awful lot of them.

We should petition to have this shnook made a regular guest on Fox news.

randr

(12,418 posts)
83. And we think this brand of mysogyny is limited to Islamic fundamentalists?
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:29 AM
May 2012

American fundamentalism is very close to falling over the edge.

TBF

(32,130 posts)
87. Kicking for exposure -
Tue May 15, 2012, 09:27 AM
May 2012

any woman in this country who votes for a repug needs to seriously contemplate why she thinks so little of herself. Women need to band together to vote these assholes out. And, frankly, we need an overhaul of the FCC. It's time to fight against FAUX news.

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