Ex-Wife: Donald Trump Made Me Feel ‘Violated’ During Sex
Source: Daily Beast
Ivana Trump once accused the real estate tycoon of rape, although she later clarified: not in the criminal sense.
Donald Trump introduced his presidential campaign to the world with a slur against Mexican immigrants, accusing them of being rapists and bringing crime into the country.
I mean somebodys doing it!
Whos doing the raping? Donald Trump said, when asked to defend his characterization. It was an unfortunate turn of phrase for Trumpin more ways than one. Not only does the current front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination have a history of controversial remarks about sexual assault, but as it turns out, his ex-wife Ivana Trump once used rape to describe an incident between them in 1989. She later said she felt violated by the experience.
Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, Youre talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you cant rape your spouse.
It is true, Cohen added. You cannot rape your spouse. And theres very clear case law.
Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Perhaps he can pick "The Cos" to be his VP?
Of course, if they think being a rapist will sully him in the eyes of the Teabagger crowd, they sadly misread the situation.
bigworld
(1,807 posts)real charmer lawyer Mr Trump has there.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)This is a trajedy, for her and for everyone else who has to deal with Trump.
chillfactor
(7,576 posts)forced sex w/o consent is a crime....even if it is a spouse...what planet does Cohen live on to makes such an absurd statement...
TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)3catwoman3
(24,003 posts)...I know that.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)3catwoman3
(24,003 posts)...is enough to make one feel violated. Yeeeeeesh!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)she felt violated....seriously - who would know better than Ivana..a husband cannot rape a wife...seriously???? - By the very definition!!!!!! - Are they for real>>>> - Theres very clear case law - really????
But legally can one be raped by a husband? ... laws. Currently, rape of a spouse is a crime in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. - That was so easy to find out!!!
Disgusting people,!!!!
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)He exhibits the perfect level of thuggery to act as Attorney General in a Trump administration. Alberto Gonzales can give him a few pointers.
What kind of lawyer doesn't even know the law? Everything with Trump is crazy.
My takeway from this is GOP is really getting out the knives. I wonder who leaked this to the reporter. They must be really running scared.
He's a corporate lawyer so criminal law is far from his life. My sister is a lawyer but not a criminal lawyer and often has to look up laws to see what's what. Just like you wouldn't go to a neurologist for heart disease.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)thinking about him having sex with someone makes ME feel violated,and nauseous.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)If Bush and Cheney can get by with torture then trump feels safe with these charges.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Wish I had skipped this one.
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)and suppliers to his properties felt raped by his bankruptcies?
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thecrow
(5,519 posts)Don't do that ever again....!
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)This snap is eight years ago--it's not lighted or posed, but she looks ... happier.
ImaPolitico
(150 posts). 1992. This is a very old photo.
MADem
(135,425 posts)2008 than she did in 1992 (or earlier) --it's because she lost that hundred and eighty pounds of unsightly ASSHOLE to her left~~~!!!!
tabasco
(22,974 posts)When did he go blond???
Did not know he was originally a brunette.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Even if it's your spouse, forced sex is a crime.
Leave the spouse alone, if you're not wanted go find a prostitute, there's millions of them. Forcing yourself on someone is assault and battery along with rape.
candelista
(1,986 posts)Who is the sleaziest? Jeb? Cruz? Carly?
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)is the most sleaziest as they all look pretty much alike.
No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)I haven't looked it up yet, but it mentioned that Trump had unsuccessful scalp reduction surgery.
What the heck is scalp reduction surgery?
Is that why he wears the awful coiffeur?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)"After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife"
George II
(67,782 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)He is, has been, and always will be an asshole. I'm sure he treats all his wives (past and present) like crap given his personality.
The lawyer is a piece of work as well.
So the Trump campaign slogans are: "Who's doing the raping?" and "You cannot rape your spouse"
Just lovely people.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Warpy
(111,267 posts)Your take on it went out with Fedoras.
I'm not surprised she felt that way. After all, the whole world exists for his gratification. Any notion it should be a two way street just wouldn't compute.
I'm just glad for her she got away from him.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And she was right--don't get mad, get everything.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Trump could be a broken man by the time they finish with what could be the most intense smear campaign they've ever attempted. This is certainly just the beginning.
Or maybe not.
He could probably make a very nice deal with the GOP to pay him to leave the race and so he would just walk away richer than ever.
trillion
(1,859 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I, for one, am going to enjoy Defcon 1 in the Clown Car.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)Republicans are big on "traditional marriage."
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patricia92243
(12,596 posts)Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Trump is not a nice person
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Now, it's fair for Mr. Trump to return the favor and start to trot out all the Republican fun private resort parties dirt and republican ties to the Porn industry.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)There's an image I don't want to imagine, ever again.
4lbs
(6,858 posts)in all 50 states.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)but I deleted it for fear of being sued lol
Charles de Gaudless
(102 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)They had a pre-nup that would be considered null if they remained married for a certain number of years. She bailed a year or two earlier than that just to be rid of him.
I'm writing this memory so I may be off on details but that is the gist of the story.
ImaPolitico
(150 posts)tblue37
(65,391 posts)because like far too many men, they simply don't understand that all nonconsensual sex is rape. If she didn't want sex or consent to it, if he forced himself on her, feeling violated and calling that violation rape was not an error.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)It is true, Cohen added. You cannot rape your spouse. And theres very clear case law.
What a sick fuck. And wrong.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)That's why people shouldn't vote for the GOP.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)and told him that unless he wants to get too much information about Donald Trump's "private parts" he should avoid it. Otherwise I said he'd be looking for the brain bleach...
marble falls
(57,097 posts)smartest man in his room), but:
Man Found Guilty of Raping His Wife
By GEORGE JAMES
Published: December 6, 1995
Every year, the Manhattan District Attorney's office brings a few dozen cases against men accused of raping their wives. In all but a few cases, the men are not convicted, often because the woman decides not to pursue the case.
But on Monday, one of the cases prevailed, in part because the woman was upset that her husband never expressed any remorse over the attack.
The man, Jose Santos, a 37-year-old resident of Washington Heights, was convicted of first-degree rape, first-degree sodomy, first-degree sexual abuse and second-degree assault in the May 9 attack, which prosecutors said was so violent that his wife's ankle was broken.
Linda Fairstein, chief of the Manhattan District Attorney's sex crimes unit, said many of the marital rape cases her office handles never go to trial.
"We lose the victims before the trial," Ms. Fairstein said. "The victims withdraw, choose not to prosecute, some because of fear of reprisal, some because of the psychological feelings involved."
Ms. Fairstein, the author of the book "Sexual Violence: Our War Against Rape" (William Morrow & Company, 1993), said that a wife who has been sexually abused or battered approaches the criminal justice system "with a lot of ambivalence," partly because of "societal attitudes."
"I think the perception has been nationally as a result of the Simpson case that these cases don't do well in the system," Ms. Fairstein said, referring to domestic violence cases in general.
She said the victim of a marital rape may have a love-hate relationship with her spouse and still hopes to resume the relationship. Also, she may not want to see the father of her children go to jail, or is fearful of financial hardship if the wage-earner receives a prison sentence.
In this week's case, the victim, a 35-year-old home-care attendant, saw the prosecution through to the end because her husband denied he had done anything wrong and never showed remorse, said Martha Bashford, the prosecutor handling the case.
"I think she got very indignant at that," Ms. Bashford said.
Since the woman was a rape victim, her name was omitted from the court record. The victim has a different last name than her husband.
Mr. Santos, an unemployed guitar teacher, testified that his wife slipped and broke her ankle as she attacked him with a kitchen knife. He said that he delayed calling an ambulance for three hours, even though she claimed to be intense pain, because she was getting dressed and putting on her makeup.
"You know how women are," he said on the stand.
The victim testified that she and Mr. Santos had been married about a year when they became estranged and he moved out. Several days later, after her two young children by another man had left for school, her husband showed up at her door and began choking and pushing her. She fell, her leg folded awkwardly under her, and her ankle broke.
According to her testimony, Mr. Santos grabbed a kitchen knife and began yelling that it was too late for both of them and they both were going to die. He began to rip her clothes off, she said, but when she screamed in pain he ordered her to take them off. Then he sexually abused her. Throughout the ordeal, he was drinking alcohol and talking incoherently about their relationship.
At one point, Mr. Santos tried to stab her but she moved aside and the knife pierced the mattress. Then he broke down and asked her forgiveness. She finally convinced him to call an ambulance about 11:30 A.M., about three hours after she broke her ankle.
At Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center, the victim called a friend who worked for the Department of Correction. When the friend arrived, she got Mr. Santos to leave his wife's side and got a hospital social worker to interview the victim, prosecutors said.
"If he had been willing to admit what he had done and expressed remorse, she would have had a different view" about prosecuting, Ms. Bashford said. "But he kept saying it was her fault."
Mr. Santos faces a minimum of 4 1/2 to 9 years and a maximum of 12 1/2 to 25 years in prison when he is sentenced by Justice Franklyn R. Weissberg of State Supreme Court on Dec. 20.