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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:25 PM Jul 2015

Colorado Woman Arrested On Suspicion Of Arson After Burning Confederate Flag

Source: TPM

A Colorado woman was arrested on suspicion of arson for organizing a Confederate flag burning, according to the The Colorado Springs Gazette newspaper.

Patricia Cameron, who runs a news blog, was arrested and released Wednesday night, the newspaper reported. She reportedly organized the Confederate flag burning on July 4, from which photographs and videos surfaced on social media.

"An accelerant was poured onto the flag, which was held over a small grill, lit with a lighter, at which point flames erupted," police wrote in a news release, according to the newspaper. "The situation posed a risk of danger to the property and citizens of Manitou Springs, as there were multiple people in the area."

Watch the full video of the flag burning from YouTube user Steve Carlin:



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Colorado Woman Arrested On Suspicion Of Arson After Burning Confederate Flag (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
oo oo--take it to the Supreme Court! librechik Jul 2015 #1
*ahem* NOPE! Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #2
Hmmmm... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2015 #3
I was there in 1988 PatrynXX Jul 2015 #5
"so there are Stars and Bars fans in Colorado Springs" < All over the U.S. n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #10
Colorado Springs - Ugh! Nice place to avoid. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #12
If it's "free speech" to burn the American flag, it can't be arson to burn the Confederate flag. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #15
The charges will dismissed and the arresting jurisdiction sued, successfully. Free speech, guys. Shrike47 Jul 2015 #4
This seems like a ridiculous charge. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #6
Welcome to your 1st amendment lawsuit,Manitou Springs,Co.! sufrommich Jul 2015 #7
Did she own the flag she burned? Or did she take it? christx30 Jul 2015 #8
Maybe O.K. to make burgers packman Jul 2015 #18
I was just talking about the safety of christx30 Jul 2015 #20
I knew what your post was about packman Jul 2015 #22
Bull. SoapBox Jul 2015 #9
A charge is search of a crime. blackspade Jul 2015 #11
And here I thought burning things in a charcoal grill was an American tradition 1monster Jul 2015 #13
maybe the confederate flag burned itself. samsingh Jul 2015 #14
Texas v. Johnson (1989) bluestateguy Jul 2015 #16
Sorry - this is the funniest thing I've read today packman Jul 2015 #17
As soon as I read the title, I knew the town. sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #19
Manitou Springs is NOT Colorado Springs. uncle ray Jul 2015 #24
Arson!? Arrest!? JPK Jul 2015 #21
It has nothing to do with the confederate flag AwareOne Jul 2015 #23
That's the only rational reason I've heard for an arrest Telcontar Jul 2015 #25
how could someone burn anything under a wood structure juxtaposed Jul 2015 #26
 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
2. *ahem* NOPE!
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

"Arson" for burning something in a grill... So, it's a barbecue if you grill a steak, but an arson charge if you offend a DA by burning a flag on the same grill?

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,078 posts)
3. Hmmmm...
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

... so there are Stars and Bars fans in Colorado Springs? I doubt this would happen if a bunch of drunk tailgaters were burning a Nebraska Cornhuskers or Iowa Hawkeyes flag at this location.

Glad I totally avoided Colorado Springs while I was in Colorado for 3 weeks last month.
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
15. If it's "free speech" to burn the American flag, it can't be arson to burn the Confederate flag.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jul 2015

I call extreme bullshit on this one.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
8. Did she own the flag she burned? Or did she take it?
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jul 2015

If she owned it, and did it in a safe way, like in the grill the police report discribes, I'd say it's ok. If it's safe to make burgers in that thing, it's safe to burn a Confederate flag, and there should be no case against her.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
18. Maybe O.K. to make burgers
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 02:40 PM
Jul 2015

but what about the taste, you know - that yucky, phlegmy , slimy taste that just sort of lingers.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. I was just talking about the safety of
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jul 2015

building a fire in a grill. If she's burning her own property in that grill, she shouldn't be charged. If she's burning someone else's property in that grill, or is doing so in a way that is unsafe, she should be.
But from what I understand in this case, it's just the cop not liking the burning of that flag.

I witnessed the burning of a UN flag just outside the fence at the Texas state capitol building back in the late 1990's. The protestor didn't use any kind of accelerant, just lit it with a Zippo and dropped it in a plastic bucket, which was on a sidewalk. A State Trooper stepped a few feet closer, but did not speak to the burner, and no one was arrested.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
22. I knew what your post was about
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:37 PM
Jul 2015

guess the point I was trying to make was the distasteful effects of burning that flag would have.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
9. Bull.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:42 PM
Jul 2015

What a load of crap! And Banksters walk free!

"An accelerant was poured onto the flag, which was held over a small grill, lit with a lighter, at which point flames erupted," police wrote in a news release, according to the newspaper. "The situation posed a risk of danger to the property and citizens of Manitou Springs, as there were multiple people in the area."

An accelerant? Like bar-b-que lighting fluid? And a danger to the "citizens" of Manitou Springs...an A Bomb would be a danger to the populace, not burning a piece of cloth.

More police idiots.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
11. A charge is search of a crime.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:43 PM
Jul 2015

What a bunch of bullshit.
The contortions that the cops will go through to find a crime are repulsive.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
13. And here I thought burning things in a charcoal grill was an American tradition
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:46 PM
Jul 2015

in the summer time!

Shucks, darn.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
17. Sorry - this is the funniest thing I've read today
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jul 2015

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Oh, the horror - the horror.



I do believe I know what I will start my grill with today - I will print one out , of course. even though I could go around the corner and rip one off my neighbor's front porch

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
19. As soon as I read the title, I knew the town.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jul 2015

Colorado Springs is the hardcore conservative
area in the Eastern part of the state. I hope
that they will fight this idiocy.

uncle ray

(3,157 posts)
24. Manitou Springs is NOT Colorado Springs.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 07:57 PM
Jul 2015

Manitou is quite liberal. the area is still feeling the wrath of previous years wildfires, nobody in the area is accepting of actions that even appear to pose a fire risk or break laws regarding fire safety. the Waldo Canyon fire burned hundreds of homes and left Manitou to deal with major flash flooding from any rain that would hit the burn scar. it was quite terrifying to colorado's 2nd largest metro area.

JPK

(655 posts)
21. Arson!? Arrest!?
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jul 2015

I will bet there were phone calls from lawyers chomping at the bit to take her case and press a law suit. Then I would start the negotiating. Which firm would give me the best deal. Me thinks she hit the Lotto!

 

AwareOne

(404 posts)
23. It has nothing to do with the confederate flag
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jul 2015

if she had burned a phone book in the same manner the charge would be the same. You are not allowed to have an open flame under the pavilion, gas grills only.

 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
25. That's the only rational reason I've heard for an arrest
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 02:01 AM
Jul 2015

That makes sense, especially in light of the wildfire risk

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
26. how could someone burn anything under a wood structure
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 02:37 AM
Jul 2015

and not expect to be called out on it.. If the truss wood structure had caught on fire where would we be.

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