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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:12 PM Jun 2015

Boston shooting: Suspect plotted to behead Pamela Geller, sources say

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by TexasTowelie (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: CNN

(CNN)[Breaking news, posted at 7:01 p.m. ET]

Usaamah Rahim, the man fatally shot after waving a military knife at officers, had been plotting to behead Pamela Geller, an activist and conservative blogger, law enforcement sources told CNN. Geller drew national attention last month after police thwarted an attack on an event her organization was sponsoring in Garland, Texas.

Usaamah Rahim, who was fatally shot after waving a military knife at law enforcement officers, was originally plotting to behead a prominent New York resident targeted in other terror plots, three law enforcement sources told CNN on Wednesday.

But Rahim, a 26-year-old security guard who officials believe was radicalized by ISIS and other extremists, decided instead to target the "boys in blue," a reference to police, according to court documents. "I can't wait that long," he said of the original beheading plan, according to an FBI affidavit filed in federal court in Boston on Wednesday.

About two hours before Rahim's confrontation with officers on a Boston Street, he allegedly told an associate he was "going to ... go after them, those boys in blue. 'Cause ... it's the easiest target," the documents say.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/03/us/boston-police-shooting/index.html

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Boston shooting: Suspect plotted to behead Pamela Geller, sources say (Original Post) Cooley Hurd Jun 2015 OP
Oh brother. I FB with a guy who worships Geller. KamaAina Jun 2015 #1
You mean the world almost lost Pamela Geller? valerief Jun 2015 #2
Hold on now.... V0ltairesGh0st Jun 2015 #7
You've earned an Ignore. nt valerief Jun 2015 #8
Balance yourself, seriously..... V0ltairesGh0st Jun 2015 #13
+1,000,000 n/t cosmicone Jun 2015 #26
Being on that ignore list will be a blessing. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #36
Well said. Psephos Jun 2015 #25
Ugly comment. 840high Jun 2015 #14
agreed V0ltairesGh0st Jun 2015 #17
You have no reason to read all that into what was a flippant remark. Demit Jun 2015 #22
Well, he/she did put him on ignore for pushing back. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #37
What is wrong with you? Oktober Jun 2015 #21
Terror!!!!! OMFG! WE NEED THE USA PATRIOT ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #3
+1000 blackspade Jun 2015 #23
He's going nowhere, and TheCowsCameHome Jun 2015 #4
That is NOT what "head" means!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #5
One brain-dead asshole idiot wants to kill another brain-dead asshole idiot randys1 Jun 2015 #6
These guys are as effective as the suicide squad from "Life of Brian". nt Xipe Totec Jun 2015 #9
Are you the Judean People's Front? awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #20
Fuck the Judean People's Front! We're the People's Front of Judea! Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #28
"officials believe was radicalized by ISIS and other extremists"?? Wilms Jun 2015 #10
Both ISIS and Geller love this. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #11
I'm sure she'll express public satisfaction at having tweaked some Muslim's beard . . . Journeyman Jun 2015 #12
I don't feel sorry for someone who premeditates the murder of anyone. V0ltairesGh0st Jun 2015 #18
It's all about the cops.... blackspade Jun 2015 #24
Geller has a first amendment right to free speech cosmicone Jun 2015 #27
I think you responded to the wrong post. blackspade Jun 2015 #33
A rush to judgement perhaps? Rafale Jun 2015 #15
Knew Greenwald would throw the dead perp a pity party. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #19
#alllivesmatter Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #29
Crazy-ass terrorist got himself killed geek tragedy Jun 2015 #30
Something to consider. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #31
Considered, rejected, and mocked. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #32
The problem is that evil never cancels evil out Warpy Jun 2015 #16
If Geller were beheaded, would she be any different? kwassa Jun 2015 #34
adding link with some updates wingzeroday Jun 2015 #35
Whenever you think it couldn't possibly get any worse... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #38
She isn't worth the effort. 6000eliot Jun 2015 #39
Locking thread. TexasTowelie Jun 2015 #40
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. Oh brother. I FB with a guy who worships Geller.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jun 2015

I'll never hear the end of this!

valerief

(53,235 posts)
2. You mean the world almost lost Pamela Geller?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jun 2015
 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
7. Hold on now....
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jun 2015

I think trading hate for hate...gets us nowhere. Pam Geller may be an atagonist... but implying that it would be somehow ok if a radical islamic jihadist actually succeeded on thier intent to behead her or anyone.... is unconscionable.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
8. You've earned an Ignore. nt
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jun 2015
 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
13. Balance yourself, seriously.....
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jun 2015

Glad to hear it if that's the way you feel you aren't worth replying to anyway. So i'll leave it to everyone else to see how hateful you are. No matter how much PAM GELLER is guilty of being an hate filled antogonist... this asshole Conspired to kill her/a police officer brutally. Thank Goodness that did not happen. I don't care how much you ignore me it's wrong for anyone to think she deserved to be murdered for her bad behavior. Jihadists are real HATEFUL people who WILL kill the objects of their hatred with no second thoughts of remorse. One would think you wouldn't have to be reminded of that.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
26. +1,000,000 n/t
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:57 PM
Jun 2015
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
36. Being on that ignore list will be a blessing.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:28 PM
Jun 2015

Still. Damn

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
25. Well said.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:57 PM
Jun 2015

Needs to be said more often. It's so easy to give in to the hate...tough to remember we stand for something better.

Your approach and wording were simple, honest, and gentle. Only a complicated, dishonest, or ungentle person would take offense.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
14. Ugly comment.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jun 2015
 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
17. agreed
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jun 2015

Isn't it though... when on DU someone go's so far as to think PAM GELLER/or a cop deserves whats coming to them.... The implication that their murder would be in any way at all beneficial is insane.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
22. You have no reason to read all that into what was a flippant remark.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jun 2015

The poster said nothing about Geller deserving to be murdered. The poster said nothing about cops at all. Absolutely nothing about anyone's murder being beneficial. If you think the joke was in poor taste you can say so without getting melodramatic & flat-out making things up.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
37. Well, he/she did put him on ignore for pushing back.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:30 PM
Jun 2015
 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
21. What is wrong with you?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jun 2015

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. Terror!!!!! OMFG! WE NEED THE USA PATRIOT ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jun 2015

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
23. +1000
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jun 2015

I still think this is ginned up bullshit.

Ironic that, according to this M$M 'story', extremists on the same side of the religious nut fence are going after each other

TheCowsCameHome

(40,161 posts)
4. He's going nowhere, and
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jun 2015

he never even got to become a martyr.

No virgins for this loser.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
5. That is NOT what "head" means!!!
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jun 2015

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. One brain-dead asshole idiot wants to kill another brain-dead asshole idiot
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:19 PM
Jun 2015

Twofer

One dies, the other goes to prison for life.

Maybe we are overly civilized, maybe if you spend your life hating others you should come to a violent demise like these two would.

Maybe not, not up to me to decide. I am nonviolent so I would never harm or advocate for harm, but society does need rules.

And if you belong to a political party which wants Women to die in back alleys, then you are part of a violent organization, so I see no difference between teaparty, ISIS and Geller.

Xipe Totec

(43,872 posts)
9. These guys are as effective as the suicide squad from "Life of Brian". nt
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jun 2015
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
20. Are you the Judean People's Front?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jun 2015

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
28. Fuck the Judean People's Front! We're the People's Front of Judea!
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:05 PM
Jun 2015
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
10. "officials believe was radicalized by ISIS and other extremists"??
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jun 2015

Do they mean extremist like Geller?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
11. Both ISIS and Geller love this.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015

Journeyman

(15,001 posts)
12. I'm sure she'll express public satisfaction at having tweaked some Muslim's beard . . .
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015

and quake through the night in fearful realization that she's tweaked some Muslim's beard.

As it seems to be with so many sunshine patriots, the implications of her actions probably escape her, at least until brought home with such finality as this dead man in Boston presents.

 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
18. I don't feel sorry for someone who premeditates the murder of anyone.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jun 2015

He made his choices, as well as she did, they both espouse hateful ideology, but he was the one who made murderous threats to armed police officers... They did what they had to do. I will defend the use of deadly force of police when it justified, and i will condemn them when it is obviously not. Sadly, Geller will probably be thrilled by this ...which is why she is just fucking awful.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
24. It's all about the cops....
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jun 2015
...he was the one who made murderous threats to armed police officers...


Never mind Gellar of the person in NY, but holy shit the cops were threatened...with a knife...ninja style.
Dead man! yay cops!

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
27. Geller has a first amendment right to free speech
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:01 PM
Jun 2015

No one has a right to murder anyone.

Your support of Islamic terrorist assholes is appalling. They can certainly engage Pamela Geller in a debate over the merits (or lack thereof) of her xenophobia but no -- they have to resort to violence based on a caricatured version of their religion.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
33. I think you responded to the wrong post.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:18 PM
Jun 2015

Your response is completely unrelated to my post.

Rafale

(291 posts)
15. A rush to judgement perhaps?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jun 2015
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/03/media-trash-character-police-shooting-victim-reporting-anonymous-smears/

Wait a minute. We can trust law enforcement when it comes to shooting suspects. My bad.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. Knew Greenwald would throw the dead perp a pity party.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jun 2015

He has a long track record of defending radical rightwing terrorists so long as they belong to the right religion.

This nut charged cops with a military knife, and got what was coming to him.

Greenwald has never heard of a dead terrorist who wasn't the real victim.

#terroristlivesmatter

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
30. Crazy-ass terrorist got himself killed
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:11 PM
Jun 2015

Good riddance

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
32. Considered, rejected, and mocked.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:15 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026775436

He was not a victim and he was not 'smeared'

Greenwald is very sympathetic to radical Islamists and terrorists, as well as to Ron Paul.

Warpy

(110,900 posts)
16. The problem is that evil never cancels evil out
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jun 2015

One or both will step over the bodies of innocent bystanders and go on.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
34. If Geller were beheaded, would she be any different?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:29 PM
Jun 2015

I mean, she is nothing but a thoughtless ass, anyways.

wingzeroday

(189 posts)
35. adding link with some updates
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:59 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/usaama-rahim-boston-terrorism-suspect-planned-beheading-authorities-say.html?_r=0


"At first the two followed the strict teachings of the Muslim Brotherhood, Mr. Rivero said, but then they “started doing their own thing,” after deciding other conservative sects were “too lenient.”


"As Mr. Rahim’s views grew too extreme, Mr. Rivero said he cut off contact with Mr. Rahim."

Rhiannon12866

(202,963 posts)
38. Whenever you think it couldn't possibly get any worse...
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 01:59 AM
Jun 2015

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
39. She isn't worth the effort.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:01 AM
Jun 2015

TexasTowelie

(111,279 posts)
40. Locking thread.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jun 2015

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