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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 05:09 AM Mar 2015

Don’t stigmatise depression after Germanwings crash, says top doctor

Source: The Guardian

Britain’s most senior psychiatrist has warned airline authorities to avoid a kneejerk reaction to the crash of the Germanwings flight, insisting that depression should not lead to a lifetime ban for commercial airline pilots.
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Claims that Lubitz, 27, suffered a prolonged period of severe depression in 2008 and may have concealed continuing problems have prompted calls for those with a history of the disorder to be prevented from flying for commercial airlines.

In a sign of continued nervousness in the light of the tragedy, there were reports on Saturday of pilots offering personal assurances to passengers. One woman tweeted: “Pilot on my @Delta flight announces he and co-pilot are ex-military and ‘we both have wives and kids and are very happy’.”
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Since the crash, questions have been raised about European Union regulations that permit pilots to fly for commercial airlines a minimum of four weeks after symptoms of depression have been resolved. Pilots are also allowed to fly if they are free of symptoms but on approved antidepressants.



Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/28/germanwings-plane-crash-alps-depression-doctor



Very interesting and balanced approach to the issue, from a European perspective.

More insights into Lubitz's family, etc.

Worth reading the whole article.

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Don’t stigmatise depression after Germanwings crash, says top doctor (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 OP
The stigmatization will not be limited to airlines, unfortunately... hlthe2b Mar 2015 #1
That's why, in IMHO, it is essential that health Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #2
The pilot's depression did not cause the crash rocktivity Mar 2015 #3
Let's say lack of awareness of his mental instability did. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #4
airlines could start by giving more attention to sleep for pilots. mopinko Mar 2015 #5
So very true, and the same goes for ER docs... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #6
especially residents. mopinko Mar 2015 #7
Sorry to hear that. My bro is an ER doc and has developed Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #8
it was a long time ago mopinko Mar 2015 #10
Dual-pronged approach, IMHO. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #11
I find it dificult to wrap My head around this. imthevicar Mar 2015 #9
As the top Brit shrink says at the link below: Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #12

hlthe2b

(102,470 posts)
1. The stigmatization will not be limited to airlines, unfortunately...
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 08:18 AM
Mar 2015

If this reaction continues to balloon, I fear for the countless numbers struggling with depression--who would never pose a threat of violence or harm to others--but who surely might succumb themselves to the added sense of hopelessness.

As one who flies not infrequently myself, I do understand both sides, but I hope that an evidence-based approach-- not based on a kneejerk reaction-- will prevail.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
2. That's why, in IMHO, it is essential that health
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 08:29 AM
Mar 2015

monitoring and reporting requirements be reviewed and possibly revised in 'safety-sensitive' industries--first, to calm legitimate public fears, and secondly, to put a stop to the 'hair-on-fire' over-reaction.

rocktivity

(44,583 posts)
3. The pilot's depression did not cause the crash
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:43 AM
Mar 2015

The fact that no one noticed that he was too depressed to be a pilot did.


rocktivity

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Let's say lack of awareness of his mental instability did.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:46 AM
Mar 2015

Other mental issues (and perhaps physical) would seem to be more relevant here than his depression. His narcissism and deluded ego-centricity among others.

Monitoring, monitoring, monitoring...

mopinko

(70,283 posts)
5. airlines could start by giving more attention to sleep for pilots.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:10 AM
Mar 2015

their own policies lead to disrupted sleep cycles and lack of adequate sleep for many pilots and flight attendants, both.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. Sorry to hear that. My bro is an ER doc and has developed
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:29 AM
Mar 2015

life-threatening health issues due to the wonky on/off sleep cycle he's been on for years.

mopinko

(70,283 posts)
10. it was a long time ago
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:59 AM
Mar 2015

and i dragged her ass out of bed, anyway.

better public health policy would go a lot farther than invading people's privacy.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
11. Dual-pronged approach, IMHO.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 11:06 AM
Mar 2015

Yes, first and foremost, a more comprehensive, compassionate and supportive public health policy.

Secondly, where the extremely safety-sensitive nature of a given industry requires it, more thorough monitoring and reporting.

Can we agree to disagree?

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
9. I find it dificult to wrap My head around this.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:58 AM
Mar 2015

Depression has beat me down several times in my life. But to let someone die because I was depressed enough to off myself? I just can't get passed this point. That's not just suicidal, it just plane (no pun intended.) selfishness. IOW My life sucks so much I'm going to take 100 or so other people with me. Does this bother anyone else?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. As the top Brit shrink says at the link below:
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 11:28 AM
Mar 2015
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/28/germanwings-plane-crash-alps-depression-doctor

"Dr. Wessely sagely informs the uninitiated public that:
'there is no link between depression and aggressive suicide'."


This guy was carrying around much heavier psych baggage than just depression. Starting with deluded narcissim: "I AM THE CENTER OF THE WORLD".
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