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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:02 PM Mar 2015

French Government Formally Asks FBI To Assist In Investigation of Germanwings Flight 9525 Co-Pilot

Source: CNN/NBC News WPTZ.com

URGENT--The French government has formally asked the FBI to assist in an investigation of the co-pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525 and of the plane's crash in France on Tuesday, a law enforcement official said Thursday.

Read more: http://www.wptz.com/national/urgent-germanwings-fbi/32025584

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French Government Formally Asks FBI To Assist In Investigation of Germanwings Flight 9525 Co-Pilot (Original Post) big_dog Mar 2015 OP
Are there more of these young pilots waiting for the chance mnhtnbb Mar 2015 #1
how does age factor into it? onenote Mar 2015 #12
And with personal revenge as a motive. mnhtnbb Mar 2015 #14
This puzzles me. Don't the French and Germans feel they can handle this? mainer Mar 2015 #2
Good question. 840high Mar 2015 #3
I, also, find this eyebrow-raising. Maedhros Mar 2015 #4
No it isn't. See my post # 5 hlthe2b Mar 2015 #6
Good point. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #9
Did he have ties to the US? HockeyMom Mar 2015 #7
Because he trained in ARIZONA... For gawd's sakes, the FBI does not have the miraculously superior hlthe2b Mar 2015 #5
So his training leave was in Arizona? HockeyMom Mar 2015 #8
His training was in AZ hlthe2b Mar 2015 #10
OK, that explains the FBI involvement. mainer Mar 2015 #13
IDK, several countries ask the US to do such tbings. n/t freshwest Mar 2015 #18
And vice-versa hatrack Mar 2015 #19
Likely because of treaties like the UKUSA. freshwest Mar 2015 #22
Its funny how upset some people are that the US's FBI might treestar Mar 2015 #23
Ooh, can't have that now, can we, treestar? freshwest Mar 2015 #24
They have the best tools to check the persons actions over the past several months. Sunlei Mar 2015 #11
Was he attending any houses of worship cosmicone Mar 2015 #15
Oh great, you found a new thing you can blame on Muslims somehow. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #20
What it the world would make you think that? cosmicone Mar 2015 #21
Lufthansa agrees that Lubitz deliberately crashed plane brentspeak Mar 2015 #16
WTF ? father founding Mar 2015 #17

mnhtnbb

(31,418 posts)
1. Are there more of these young pilots waiting for the chance
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:06 PM
Mar 2015

to fly a plane into a mountain? Ocean? Buildings?

onenote

(42,835 posts)
12. how does age factor into it?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 03:31 PM
Mar 2015

The pilot of Egypt Flight 990 that is thought to have deliberately crashed his plane was 59 years old with over 12,000 hours of flight time.

mnhtnbb

(31,418 posts)
14. And with personal revenge as a motive.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 03:43 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/16/duncancampbell


So far, everyone is at a loss to figure out what in this guy's life would have driven him to do such a thing.

mainer

(12,037 posts)
2. This puzzles me. Don't the French and Germans feel they can handle this?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:06 PM
Mar 2015

Wouldn't they turn to Europol first?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
4. I, also, find this eyebrow-raising.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:29 PM
Mar 2015

French authorities should be more than capable of investigating this incident. Very strange that they should ask the FBI for assistance.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
7. Did he have ties to the US?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:36 PM
Mar 2015

That FB picture showed him sitting near the Golden Gate Bridge. Had his previous flights included Transatlantic? Sounds like they might know something that has not be put out into the media.

Medical privacy rights. Does Germany have the equivalent of HIPPA? If so, would that end with death and a criminal investigation? My question on this applies to why he interrupted his Lufthansa training for months? Medical reasons?

hlthe2b

(102,552 posts)
5. Because he trained in ARIZONA... For gawd's sakes, the FBI does not have the miraculously superior
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:31 PM
Mar 2015

reputation worldwide that some here would suggest and NO, the French and Germans are not in desperate need of competent investigative assistance. It is only natural that they would ask for assistance in investigating the co-pilot's time in the US.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
8. So his training leave was in Arizona?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:41 PM
Mar 2015

Maybe that is why the FBI is getting involved? Seeing doctors in Arizona? Tracking his time spent in the US?

hlthe2b

(102,552 posts)
10. His training was in AZ
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:46 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/03/26/germanwings-killer-copilot-what-we-know.html
Here is what’s known so far about the Germanwings Flight 9525 co-pilot accused of murdering 149 people.

His name is Andreas Lubitz, age 28, from Montabaur, near Frankfurt. Lubitz got his pilot’s license as a teenager, according to members of his local flying club. In 2008, he was accepted into Lufthansa’s pilot-training program. Lubitz interrupted his training for 11 months for unknown reasons but then was readmitted after passing several tests, including a psychological assessment, said Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr. During that time, Lubitz trained at a Lufthansa center in Goodyear, Arizona. Since graduating in 2013, Lubitz logged 630 hours of flight time.

“He was happy he had the job with Germanwings and he was doing well,” club member Peter Ruecker told the AP. “He was very happy. He gave off a good feeling.”

A mother of Lubitz’s classmate told a different story to Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung:

“Apparently, he had a burnout, depression,” the woman said, adding that Lubitz confided in her daughter before Christmas.

Dutch journalist Victor Schildkamp with Algemeen Dagbland tweeted that a friend of Lubitz said the co-pilot planned to get married next year.

Lubitz was heard breathing normally through the entire descent on flight voice recordings, according to French prosecutor Brice Robin. Lubitz did not respond to any radio messages from air-traffic control, nor did he respond to the pilot’s demands to open the locked cockpit door, Robin said.

Lubitz’s motive is unknown. The French said they see no connection to terrorism.
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mainer

(12,037 posts)
13. OK, that explains the FBI involvement.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 03:32 PM
Mar 2015

Now it makes sense. The headline made it sound like the French felt inadequate.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. Likely because of treaties like the UKUSA.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:03 AM
Mar 2015

There is a lot of intelligence to be shared there, and as members of the UN and NATO, this is of strategic importance to more than one country.

Was wondering in my comment if there was some expertise by the FBI employed. Information will be shared and evaluated to determine why this happened, and how to prevent it again.

RIP to all those on the plane, is the correct term. But at times I find it hard to believe those who have been murdered (if some of the speculation is correct) could RIP anyway. JMHO.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. Its funny how upset some people are that the US's FBI might
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:20 AM
Mar 2015

be considered to have value that other countries would want their help.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. They have the best tools to check the persons actions over the past several months.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 03:07 PM
Mar 2015

What I haven't read yet is if this co-pilot was on any medications like antidepressants.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
20. Oh great, you found a new thing you can blame on Muslims somehow.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 11:15 PM
Mar 2015

We all know that's what you're implying, based on your previous body of work.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
16. Lufthansa agrees that Lubitz deliberately crashed plane
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:24 PM
Mar 2015

So there's really no question about it, and it took about an hour for them to acknowledge it.

Wish EgyptAir and the Egyptian govt would finally admit that it was co-pilot Gameel Al-Batouti who purposefully crashed EgyptAir 990.

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