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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:40 PM Mar 2015

Arrest Made in Ferguson Shooting That Injured 2 Police Officers

Last edited Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: ABC News

An arrest was made in connection with a shooting outside the headquarters of the Ferguson police department that injured two officers, St. Louis County police and prosecutors said today.

St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch and Police Chief Jon Belmar were expected to give further details during a news conference this afternoon.

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Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/arrest-made-ferguson-shooting-injured-police-officers/story?id=29652783

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Arrest Made in Ferguson Shooting That Injured 2 Police Officers (Original Post) Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 OP
Arrest Made in Ferguson Shooting That Injured 2 Police Officers Ptah Mar 2015 #1
Thanks Ptah - updated OP... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #3
Very little detail in the story Stryst Mar 2015 #2
Local man, gun recovered B2G Mar 2015 #4
Fucking McCulloch is the one announcing things??????????????????????????????? Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #5
He's the District Attorney. Who do you want to make the announcement? George II Mar 2015 #6
He should've been disbarred by now for the fiasco he created... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #7
Just asking donnasgirl Mar 2015 #22
Yes. 7962 Mar 2015 #26
They ONLY determined they could NOT prove Wilson was NOT afraid for his life, of course he NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #56
You are my hero, Trent...You are so brave LOL NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #57
Nah...you don't want that shit all over your hands cyberswede Mar 2015 #58
Apparently it was a "protester." NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #8
Bob McCulloch announced the arrest... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #9
Actually I'm cool with McCulloch. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #11
Oy vey... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #12
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2015 #13
Uh, off to the Ignore List with you! nt valerief Mar 2015 #14
Because you don't agree with what was said, GGJohn Mar 2015 #29
It boggles my mind when people put others on "ignore" when they don't agree with what he/she said. George II Mar 2015 #15
I only have a few on my Ignore, but they were mean spirited. CanonRay Mar 2015 #16
I suppose in some cases it's warranted, but certainly not here, in my opinion. To each his/her own. George II Mar 2015 #17
I just block DU mail from the obvious trolls RandiFan1290 Mar 2015 #20
It boggles my mind when they have a tantrum... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #21
Amazing, isnt it? Being rude or insulting s one thing, but wow. 7962 Mar 2015 #27
We have an Ignore button??/ HAHAHAHAHA!! Never knew that. Never needed it. adigal Mar 2015 #52
I was just added to one last week. Didnt like my non-admiration of Putin 7962 Mar 2015 #54
Badge of pride from someone afraid of differing opinions adigal Mar 2015 #60
Good point. I've never lost friends because of political opinion. 7962 Mar 2015 #61
I have five on ignore and they are on ignore because they have n8thing good to say to me ever. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #33
That's his Job..... Capt13 Mar 2015 #35
figures heaven05 Mar 2015 #41
It is being reported donnasgirl Mar 2015 #25
Are you cool with the guy actually SAYING HE FIRED THE SHOTS snooper2 Mar 2015 #43
you missed my point completely. Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #49
AND it could be a poseur! A sort of "double agent" type of thing... CTyankee Mar 2015 #18
Lots of details still need to be determined, but offhand I would lean toward.... George II Mar 2015 #23
I get that. He was a hothead ready to act and the others tried to calm him down... CTyankee Mar 2015 #32
This whole police described scenario heaven05 Mar 2015 #40
20 year old secret double agent! snooper2 Mar 2015 #44
"Secret Agent Man" CTyankee Mar 2015 #50
The "protestors" get so little respect because we have been taught for hundreds of years that one = all. wcast Mar 2015 #19
+1 JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #31
+1000 heaven05 Mar 2015 #39
I hope the supposed "protester" Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #36
Some on DU were very 840high Mar 2015 #37
These two could be heaven05 Mar 2015 #42
I didn't see anyone say they were "sure". I remember speculation, but that is decidedly different. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #45
Well doesn't this look just peachy Android3.14 Mar 2015 #10
May NOT have been a protestor, and claims to not have been firing at police directly mackdaddy Mar 2015 #24
If His Target Wasn't Police Was His Target Protesters In Hopes Of Police Being Blamed? Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #55
How ironic if this just turned out to be a drive-by with cops as collateral damage? Chemisse Mar 2015 #30
but, do the bullets match the ones in the hopemountain Mar 2015 #34
I'll believe he's guilty heaven05 Mar 2015 #38
He admitted to shooting and B2G Mar 2015 #46
so his admission that he fired the shots is not enough evidence for you? Amishman Mar 2015 #47
I think only one person was arrested George II Mar 2015 #48
Well, he confessed, so there's that. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #51
I'll believe he was shooting at the police officers as the key targets JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #53
I can go along with that heaven05 Mar 2015 #59

Stryst

(714 posts)
2. Very little detail in the story
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:10 PM
Mar 2015

But the comments are just priceless. Well, maybe less priceless and more "make you rethink your stance on eugenics".

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
4. Local man, gun recovered
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:33 PM
Mar 2015

"Law enforcement sources told The Washington Post that a local man was arrested in the late morning on Sunday and that the weapon believed to have been used in the shooting has been recovered."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/police-suspect-arrested-in-shooting-of-two-officers-in-ferguson/2015/03/15/eb3140c2-cb38-11e4-8a46-b1dc9be5a8ff_story.html?wprss=rss_national

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
5. Fucking McCulloch is the one announcing things???????????????????????????????
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:45 PM
Mar 2015

WTF???? Has this "community" learned NOTHING????????????????????

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
7. He should've been disbarred by now for the fiasco he created...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:05 PM
Mar 2015

...with the Darren Wilson Grand Jury!

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
28. They ONLY determined they could NOT prove Wilson was NOT afraid for his life, of course he
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

was, after the way he and the other police treated ALL black people in that area for all those years, I am sure he was very much afraid of Brown

Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #28)

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
57. You are my hero, Trent...You are so brave LOL
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:49 PM
Mar 2015

Please let me play with this one for a while guys

Ahh crap

I wanted to play with the little racist punk

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
8. Apparently it was a "protester."
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:28 PM
Mar 2015

But wait...I thought people were sure it was going to be some sort of white supremacist, false flag operation, possibly just some gun nut looking for a chance to shoot somebody.

Is it any wonder that these "protesters" get so little respect? I'll be interested to see if any of the protest leaders denounce these shootings.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
11. Actually I'm cool with McCulloch.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:35 PM
Mar 2015

He conducted the grand jury the way I think it should be conducted - present all the evidence and let the grand jury members decide. Most prosecutors just cherry pick the most damning pieces of evidence and push through an indictment.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. I suppose in some cases it's warranted, but certainly not here, in my opinion. To each his/her own.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:15 PM
Mar 2015

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
20. I just block DU mail from the obvious trolls
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:52 PM
Mar 2015

Makes it easy to keep track and see how long it takes for the bigots to get their well deserved and overdue pizza.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
21. It boggles my mind when they have a tantrum...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:59 PM
Mar 2015

and have to inform the person that they're putting them on ignore. Does the person who moved me to her ignore list think I'm going to lose sleep while soul-searching about my supposed sins tonight?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
27. Amazing, isnt it? Being rude or insulting s one thing, but wow.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:28 PM
Mar 2015

I bet some folks here have 500 people on their ignore list.
I have none. Although I do have ONE on my jury exclusion list

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
52. We have an Ignore button??/ HAHAHAHAHA!! Never knew that. Never needed it.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:22 PM
Mar 2015

I'm a big girl, if you play on the internets, you are going to disagree with some people. Hey, we may agree next time.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
60. Badge of pride from someone afraid of differing opinions
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:05 PM
Mar 2015

If you can't even listen to another's opinion you must not be that confident in your own. Right??

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
61. Good point. I've never lost friends because of political opinion.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:22 PM
Mar 2015

Believe it or not. Sure we've had some heated discussions, but then its on to football or women or whatever

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
33. I have five on ignore and they are on ignore because they have n8thing good to say to me ever.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:11 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:09 PM - Edit history (1)

I use it for those who can't play nice with me.

Capt13

(62 posts)
35. That's his Job.....
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:46 PM
Mar 2015

"Most prosecutors just cherry pick the most damning pieces of evidence and push through an indictment. " TRIALS are for the Defense to present exculpatory evidence.

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
25. It is being reported
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:15 PM
Mar 2015

By the local papers that he admitted to the shooting and that a gun was recovered, he made the statement that he was shooting at someone else and just so happened to hit two policemen. Sorry I do not buy into that excuse.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
43. Are you cool with the guy actually SAYING HE FIRED THE SHOTS
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 10:09 AM
Mar 2015

apparently he may have not even been targeting the cops...


read articles much

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
49. you missed my point completely.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 12:22 PM
Mar 2015

The fact that McCullough announced it is a very bad optic.

Read posts much, Sparky?

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
18. AND it could be a poseur! A sort of "double agent" type of thing...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:28 PM
Mar 2015

That has been known to happen.

OR it could be just a guy who lost it and got a gun and started shooting.

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Lots of details still need to be determined, but offhand I would lean toward....
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015

....his story of having a beef with other demonstrators. If you look at the diagrams of the scene, the top of the other demonstrators were just below the trajectory of the bullets. But that's just speculation.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
32. I get that. He was a hothead ready to act and the others tried to calm him down...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:47 PM
Mar 2015

then he struck out on his own...

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
44. 20 year old secret double agent!
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 10:10 AM
Mar 2015

And he has a funny goatee...that is a key piece of evidence here!

wcast

(595 posts)
19. The "protestors" get so little respect because we have been taught for hundreds of years that one = all.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:43 PM
Mar 2015

If the story is accurate, one man shot those officers. However the prevailing tactic is to decry all protestors, or in this case, all protestors of a certain race, in order to marginalized the message. Ferguson has had problems for many years, and is only one example of how people of color are treated on a daily basis. When evidence is shown of mistreatment, many look for ways to minimize the treatment with the old "they deserve it" standby.

Whatever happened in the Mike Brown case doesn't change the unjust system that was in place in Ferguson and continues to operate unabated in most of America. Seeing people of color as inferior is part of American DNA and has been indoctrinated with our citizenry since 1620. Consequently many white Americans conflate the negative actions of a person of color to the whole group, using it to justify the actions that happened.

Right now most white Americans never experience in their lives the injustices that people of color experience on an almost daily basis, but the old saying is true. What goes around comes around. If we idly sit by blaming the victims of institutional bias and discrimination, it won't be much longer before we suffer the same fate.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
36. I hope the supposed "protester"
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:57 PM
Mar 2015

says in court he saw the cops were armed and "fired out of fear for his life"...

I'd love to see the gunners have to defend *THAT* one...

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
42. These two could be
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 08:38 AM
Mar 2015

wait or it..........pawns arrested for media consumption. In a lot of cases, any black will do when it comes to black and white. But this is america after all, and some responses on here are typical and oh so expected.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
45. I didn't see anyone say they were "sure". I remember speculation, but that is decidedly different.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 10:11 AM
Mar 2015

You understand the difference, I hope.

mackdaddy

(1,523 posts)
24. May NOT have been a protestor, and claims to not have been firing at police directly
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:14 PM
Mar 2015

According to CNN story the alleged shooter is claiming that he was not aiming at the police but someone else.

And although the cops are claiming he was a protestor, an Organizer/minister who talked to the alleged shooter said the shooter admitted to him he had never been to one of the protests.

Also will be interesting where the pistol, a .40caliber handgun came from. This is usually used by police. Also 125 yards is way outside of the normal accuracy range of any pistol. (10-20 yards at most) Edit: On looking up this type of pistol is one of the longest distance capable rounds as it is a relatively fast bullet.

Will be interesting how this really shakes out. Looks like it might just be gang type thugs.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/15/us/ferguson-police-shot-arrest/

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
55. If His Target Wasn't Police Was His Target Protesters In Hopes Of Police Being Blamed?
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:32 PM
Mar 2015

Sounds logical to me I mean if he was aiming to shoot someone else, why open fire in a place where hundreds of Police Officers were already there on the scene...

However the Police may have been his target & he is just denying they were the intended targets in hopes a judge & or jury would show him leniency...

I just have a hard time believing that he was trying to shoot someone else at a public rally in which thousands were in r attendance including hundreds of Police Officers as well as all major & local news reporter's who were constantly video taping the protest. Even more strange is the only two shot just happened to be Police Officers...

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
30. How ironic if this just turned out to be a drive-by with cops as collateral damage?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015

From the article,

Williams, 20, fired the shots from a car moving through the area, McCulloch said. It's unclear if he meant to shoot the police officers, said McCulloch, since Williams told investigators he was involved in some sort of dispute prior to the shooting.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
34. but, do the bullets match the ones in the
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:37 PM
Mar 2015

cop who was shot in the face? remember the st louis police chief said the bullet was lodged behind the cop's ear. and why did the cops dig up someone's roof? why did they initially say the shots were from the crowd of 90 protestors - and that they saw muzzle fire? i seriously doubt anything that comes out of mcculloughs lying mouth. not enough "smoking gun details" for me.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
38. I'll believe he's guilty
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 08:30 AM
Mar 2015

when I see a 'reputable' witness places him at the scene and an independent investigator say's it's most likely they did the shooting. No local investigator can be trusted to have an unprejudiced view. Period. Probably just two arrested for media consumption, of which they are pigging out on, I'm sure.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
46. He admitted to shooting and
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 10:23 AM
Mar 2015

they found the gun at this house.

The lengths some will go to to justify their reconceived notions can be mind boggling sometimes...

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
47. so his admission that he fired the shots is not enough evidence for you?
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 10:29 AM
Mar 2015

He admitted he did it, there is no grand conspiracy here.

The only real question remaining is the validity of his story that he was shooting at someone else. Though in my opinion he should face very serious charges regardless of who he was shooting at, drive by shootings into crowds is completely unforgivable.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
53. I'll believe he was shooting at the police officers as the key targets
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:26 PM
Mar 2015

When I see a 'reputable' witness corroborate that story. In the meantime -

He told investigators that he had a dispute with some people outside the police station that had nothing to do with the demonstration, officials said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/16/us/suspect-arrested-in-shooting-of-2-officers-in-ferguson-police-say.html?_r=0


Unless someone steps forward and lets us know that he asked them to step aside so he could shoot to LEO - I gotta go with what he 'admitted' to. He was never shooting at 'cops' until that's proven in a court of law.

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