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Vinca

(50,321 posts)
1. Apparently when the transition team was given the government account, they were
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 08:31 AM
Dec 2017

informed they should have no expectation of privacy and that the emails would not be withheld in a law enforcement action among other things. Their problem is that they were too dumb to understand what was going on. If they wanted privacy, maybe they should have had their own private account on another server. Any of us could file a FOIA request for the emails. They're government property.

2naSalit

(86,880 posts)
3. This is true
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 08:45 AM
Dec 2017

When working at every government computer at all the positions I have held I have always had to pass security training courses and hand in a certificate of completion within a week and renewed once every six months. The training instructs the computer user of responsibilities and limitations of use. I can imagine that many have waived these sessions since they see themselves as somewhere above the law. Nothing entered into any of these devices is private property.

Takket

(21,655 posts)
5. On top of that
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 08:55 AM
Dec 2017

Any claim of executive privilege is absurd because drumpf was not the president during that time. Obama was.

onenote

(42,797 posts)
8. Wrong. "Any of us" could not get access to those emails.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 09:01 AM
Dec 2017

It is settled law that the Presidential Transition Team is not an executive branch agency and that Presidential Transition Team documents are not subject to FOIA requests.

https://www.justice.gov/oip/foia-update-foia-counselor-transition-team-foia-issues

That doesn't necessarily mean Mueller wasn't entitled to get access to them, but there is a world of difference between "any of us" and Mueller.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
2. In the Jonathan Turley universe
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 08:41 AM
Dec 2017

Obamacare was unconstitutional, Paul Manafort's house was searched by an illegal warrant, Trump is the victim of illegal scrutiny, and basically no Republican has ever done anything wrong in the history of the planet.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
13. It's not anything new. During Ken Starr's Clinton witch-hunt...
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 09:29 AM
Dec 2017

Turley was a huge proponent of impeaching/convicting/removing Clinton from office over Lewinsky.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
11. Why did they take it to Congress instead of taking it to the Courts??
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 09:05 AM
Dec 2017

Because they are more interested in continuing the attacks on Mueller than trying to convince a judge that they right.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. That's the tell, right there
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:22 AM
Dec 2017

If the administration had a cogent legal argument to advance, they'd be talking to a judge. Instead, they're talking to Congress and the media, whining about how that Mean Mr. Mueller read all their e-mails and their diaries and the note they passed to Jenny in study hall and it's NOT FAIR!

Mike Nelson

(9,977 posts)
12. Please...
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 09:08 AM
Dec 2017

...someone tell Turley to retire. He needs to enjoy his dinners at Mar-A-Ligo and tax cuts - we should not have to see him on TV anymore!

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