Some evangelicals ready to disavow the label.

[Different Drummer]

Link to tweet

[lindysalsagal]

1. "I can stop any time I want."

It's a drug, and it's their entire identity and social life, so, no, I don't buy this for one minute.

They'll just back another horse, a losing one, which is fine with me.

[LAS14]

16. Who is "they?" Check out Sojourners, based in D.C.

Isn't this kind of lumping-together thinking exactly what we want to avoid?

https://sojo.net/

Black Voters in Alabama Defined the Soul of the Nation
Thanks Be to God
Thanks be to God.

Christian Leaders Speak Out Against Trump’s Devastating Budget Cuts
In June, a diverse group of Christian leaders gathered at the National Press Club on behalf of the Circle of Protection to protest potential budget cuts targeting the poor. Representing the full range of Christian traditions, the speakers spoke with prophetic urgency about Jesus' call to care for the poor, the sick, the elderly — the very people the administration's budget would hurt the most.

[hlthe2b]

2. I think they have a lot more to disavow than that.

Maybe actually read the New Testament, for instance.

[Achilleaze]

3. It's about time

Act like real Christians for a change and show some moral integrity.

[sarcasmo]

4. It took Roy Moore for Republican Jesus to jump the shark.

[Irish_Dem]

5. I didn't realize that evangelicals actually had souls to search. nt

[Different Drummer]

6. Nor did I. n/t

[LAS14]

17. Here's hoping you now get educated.

Isn't this kind of lumping-together thinking exactly what we want to avoid? Check out Sojourners, based in D.C.

https://sojo.net/


Black Voters in Alabama Defined the Soul of the Nation
Thanks Be to God
Thanks be to God.



Christian Leaders Speak Out Against Trump’s Devastating Budget Cuts
In June, a diverse group of Christian leaders gathered at the National Press Club on behalf of the Circle of Protection to protest potential budget cuts targeting the poor. Representing the full range of Christian traditions, the speakers spoke with prophetic urgency about Jesus' call to care for the poor, the sick, the elderly — the very people the administration's budget would hurt the most.

[Irish_Dem]

20. I did not know that Black voters identified as evangelicals.

Fascinating, I am always willing to learn.

So when people talk about the Christian Evangelical Voters,
they mean Black voters?

[LAS14]

22. I heard an interview on the radio this a.m. of...

... an academic associated with an institution associated with Billy Graham. Wish I could remember more of the creds. Anyway, he said if you define "evangelical" the way they do at their institution, and the way a lot of theologians do, there are four basic principles. At that point we missed our turn off and I missed the principals. But, he said, lots of blacks fit the definition "evangelical Christian" when identified by purely theological ideas. But they ("evangelical" blacks) are beginning to associate the term with white conservatives and certainly don't want that label.

I, myself, am a white Lutheran and the name of our nationwide body is "The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America." But we are not theologically similar to "evangelical Christians." Which is to point out that the word has many applications.

It really was only after joining DU that I began to realize how really badly hurt Christianity has been by the co-opting of the word by mean spirited, un-Christian political groups.

[irisblue]

30. Ed Stetzer on Weekend Edition Sunday. Up on NPRs website now.

Short transcript & less then 4 minutes to listen to.

[LAS14]

31. Thank you!!! nt

[LakeArenal]

7. Can't make a silk purse from a pig's ear...

A rose by any other name still has thorns?

If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and is always ready to judge the ducks?

As ye sow, so shall ye reap?

Repent sinners, repent....

[jberryhill]

8. Changing their brand wont change their essential hatred of others

[Mr. Ected]

9. First they need to live the life that Christ implored them to lead

At which point they would become Democrats.

[matt819]

10. Its more than a label

It’s a belief system. And they will not disavow that. So, call it what you will. But an evangelical by any other name will carry the trump/Moore stench just the same.

[LAS14]

18. There is so much ignorance being displayed in this thread. It's depressing.

Isn't this kind of lumping-together thinking exactly what we want to avoid? Check out Sojourners, based in D.C.

https://sojo.net/


Black Voters in Alabama Defined the Soul of the Nation
Thanks Be to God
Thanks be to God.



Christian Leaders Speak Out Against Trump’s Devastating Budget Cuts
In June, a diverse group of Christian leaders gathered at the National Press Club on behalf of the Circle of Protection to protest potential budget cuts targeting the poor. Representing the full range of Christian traditions, the speakers spoke with prophetic urgency about Jesus' call to care for the poor, the sick, the elderly — the very people the administration's budget would hurt the most.

[matt819]

23. Okay. Many evangelicals.

Happy now?

[LAS14]

24. Happier, certainly. Thanks. nt

[shanny]

11. They're just embarrassed to be exposed in public

Changing their "label" won't change their beliefs or policies.

[thegoose]

12. Ooh, Evangelical! Super religious!

Brother.

[Runningdawg]

13. It sounds more like they are

disavowing Trump not evangelicalism. If that were the case they would be kicking the entire GOP to the curb.

[alarimer]

14. It's not the label that is the problem.

It's that THEY WANT TO SHOVE THEIR RELIGION DOWN EVERYONE"S THROAT.

This election just proved that they are horrible, immoral people.

[LeftInTX]

15. It's a knee-jerk reaction, they won't change

Hopefully evangelicals will be more careful about endorsements. There are numerous spectrums of evangelicals. There are some Methodists and I believe Missouri Synod Lutherans that are considered evangelicals. I assume these more mainstresm types do not support Moore. On the other end are the crazy Pentacostals.

[LAS14]

19. We're not going to get anywhere if we can't hear the possibilities of change.

Isn't this kind of lumping-together thinking exactly what we want to avoid? Check out Sojourners, based in D.C.

https://sojo.net/


Black Voters in Alabama Defined the Soul of the Nation
Thanks Be to God
Thanks be to God.

Christian Leaders Speak Out Against Trump’s Devastating Budget Cuts
In June, a diverse group of Christian leaders gathered at the National Press Club on behalf of the Circle of Protection to protest potential budget cuts targeting the poor. Representing the full range of Christian traditions, the speakers spoke with prophetic urgency about Jesus' call to care for the poor, the sick, the elderly — the very people the administration's budget would hurt the most.

[demosincebirth]

37. Evangies will never change. They stick with the Old Testament

[LAS14]

38. Did you check out the website I put in my post? How are we...

... going to triumph if we drown ourselves in bad information? How can you say this, in the face of evidence to the contrary?

[PragmaticDem]

21. Evangelical Christianity has taken on a nationalistic characteristic.

They are not the prophets they think they are.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

25. They could appropriately rename themselves

Evil, hypocritical, clueless, heartless bastards. That's what they've been all along anyway. They can change names all they want, but they can't change who and what they are.

[get the red out]

26. Reap what you sow

The abhorrent behavior of evangelical Christians toward the rights of anyone who doesn't follow their path has been going on for long before this latest crop of wretched politicians they hope will give them a theocracy.

[Skittles]

27. they will still suck

[bluecollar2]

28. American Taliban

Leopards can't change their spots.

[LAS14]

32. See reply #19

[bluecollar2]

35. I stand by my terminology

[demosincebirth]

29. Biggest hypocrites of any religion on earth

[LAS14]

33. See reply #19

[marylandblue]

34. There is a big gap between right wing evangelicals and the rest

Right wing evangelicals are largely white and tend to vote based on social issues. These are the people who voted for Roy Moore because of abortion and gays.

Left wing evangelicals are more swayed by economics and racial justice and are much more likely to be black. These people are the heirs to Martin Luther King, and they voted for Jones.

You don't have to agree with their religion. Just accept that they are our political allies, especially in the black community.

[EarthFirst]

36. ...and Im sure whatever iteration they come up with; the media will eat it up!

Just like they did when the white nationalists rebranded themselves as “alt right”

Bullshit.

You earned that stigma.

Fucking wear it!