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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Trump Presidency is only possible because of media complicity.
Yes, in accounting for the Electoral College victory, GOP gerrymandering and suppression were critical factors. And as the evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia increases, that was also a factor.
But prior to the election, the US conservative, corporate media played an enormous role because it was that right wing media that created and normalized Trump. And this media creation, Donald Trump, was allowed to present himself as a legitimate candidate.
Prior to that, the US media created another President, Ronald Reagan. This second rate actor was coddled and protected by a media that was well aware of his intellectual deficiencies. The media ignored that and presented Reagan as a cowboy figure, while ignoring his blatant racism and open appeal to racists.
And then we had the media enabled creation of George W. Bush, a product of a connected political family from the northeast who cast himself as a cowboy type much in the mold of Reagan.
Now we have Trump, who in any sane universe would be seen as the failed businessman that he is, but thanks to reality television, he can call himself a successful businessman.
Thank you, conservative, corporate, media enablers. Thank you for totally ignoring any semblance of journalistic integrity as you normalize Trump's behavior, or present it in a both sides do it framework to minimize how bad Trump really is.
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)Who knows how many of the media have been bought and paid for by the GOP or Russia?
I am sure Putin did not just cultivate American politicians. He has US media assets as well.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The CIA undoubtedly has media assets in many countries, it would be naïve to expect any less of Russia.
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)possibly being paid under the table by sabotages to spout propaganda. You look at people like Hannity, Dobbs, Jones and the herd, and one has to start wondering WTF is going on. And what about Rupert Murdoch, what is his agenda. We know it's to make money, but anything more?
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)(stealing the US presidency). We know he bought off Trump and much of the GOP.
I am certain he did not take the US press for granted and has assets there too.
Yes indeed, look at the crazy crew at Fox and the names you mention.
Wonder if any one has looked at their bank accounts and emails?
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)them or others turning down the serving plate if it came their way.
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)They identify potential assets, then start with soft recruitment, friendship,
innocuous deals, etc...... So they are in deep before they realize what happened.
Then of course there are the Manafort and Kelly type assets who run to the money, and enjoy all of it. Think they are smart and important.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)jrthin
(4,840 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)but if Trump had received media exposure comparable to what Mafia figures receive, his many financial and sexual crimes would have made showed him to be the sexual predator and con man that he is.
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)I don't think it was any one factor that got Trump elected.
It was a combination of a rigged election, serious and intense propaganda,
FBI/Comey interference, and any other Putin tricks.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)I thought gerrymandering was only for congressional districts inside a state. The presidential electoral vote is based on entire state's votes, and therefore gerrymandering should have no effect? Please correct if this is wrong. I don't think any state boundaries were changed or gerrymandered.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Gerrymandering is a state specific issue, but in states where gerrymandering is prominent, voter suppression is also generally present also.
Both tend to suppress and/or distort the vote because gerrymandering distorts results for the House of Representatives, and suppression distorts the Presidential voting results. So the result was a GOP House and a GOP President.
Wolf Frankula
(3,602 posts)Telling us all what a business genius he was, ignoring his bankruptcies and failures. tRump is a media creation, without them, he would be just another bankrupt shyster.
Wolf
Irish_Dem
(47,552 posts)He has a long history of using the media to further his interests.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)triron
(22,028 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Trump has leveraged, monetized and mortgaged every particle of his life into the moderately telegenic beast that he is and the media have been happy to hold his cape and sweep up his messes. As usual. I still don't think he's as horrific as the other two, three if you count pappy, at least not yet.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)thanks to the estimable Judi Lynn for this particular link
Donald got his personal helicopter and the one for his casinos from a convicted felon who turned out to be a major drug trafficker, and instead of cutting ties with this guy, he kept him on, he rented him an apartment under very unusual circumstances as I described in the book, Johnston told CNN host Michael Smerconish. He wrote a letter pleading for mercy for him, saying he was a standup guy. The guy got 18 months while the people who actually delivered the drugs for him got 20 years. And, by the way, the case came before at one point Judge Maryanne Trump Barry Donalds older sister.
Johnston was referring to Joseph Weichselbaum, who was indicted for drug trafficking in 1985.
Johnston said the media should investigate Hillary Clintons private email server, but he complained that virtually no one had called attention to Trumps lifelong business dealings with Russian mobsters, con artists, violent felons, swindlers, and this big time cocaine trafficker.
how many people have the slightest idea who the F Joseph Weichselbaum is
and WHY NOT?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Bengahzi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is why.
The San Jose Mercury News published a series of articles regarding the CIA and cocaine trafficking and the result was that the reporter was attacked for revealing an inconvenient truth.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)They gave him approx. a billion dollars worth of FREE air time.
That does more than "normalize," that promotes.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And yes, all for free. But as Leslie Moonves pointed out, it was great for his network even as it was terrible for the US.
hibbing
(10,110 posts)Instead they would claim "working class angst".
Peace
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)spanone
(135,907 posts)i'd say that's a significant contribution
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)It helped them to sell advertising.
Ask Leslie Moonves.
doc03
(35,396 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)did give him plenty of exposure.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Anyone who watches conflict driven infotainment on cable or the vile hate laden reality TV is to blame as well.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)that is not a surprise.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I think we are all responsible to a degree. We got lazy about how we get our news and lowered our standards to a point that we watch arguments about news as if they are sporting events.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)BadGimp
(4,021 posts)... the difference being that they set out to support and elevate a negative perception and caricature of her where they did the opposite for the GOP candidates.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The networks focused obsessively on emails and Benghazi and ignored Trump's entire life and behavior to focus on the image that he created and that the media eagerly accepted.
DFW
(54,451 posts)My wife, who is German, noticed that the TV, especially CNN, ran whole segments of Trump, as in half an hour or more, and only tiny clips of Hillary, and wondered what was the rationale behind it.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)and normalizing, and a subtle endorsement.
DFW
(54,451 posts)They get a couple billion dollars in in free advertising before they have bought their first bumper sticker.
jalan48
(13,905 posts)It's not MSNBC, it's the parent company Comcast, a huge media giant, calling the shots and setting the parameters for what is and isn't acceptable information for public debate.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)the media has strict parameters of which topics are acceptable and which topics are not allowed.
One such forbidden topic and example is the fact that the US is an empire, and that the US generally uses force to get its way. But in the corporate media, the US is always the victim.