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If Al Franken ran for President in 2020 would you vote for him? (Original Post) Cattledog Dec 2017 OP
Yes I would - but honestly, I would like a Yates/Franken ticket even more Pachamama Dec 2017 #1
If he is completely cleared , yes. Yates for sure. apcalc Dec 2017 #4
Agreed, he has to be cleared first. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #34
How do you expect him to be cleared? LisaL Dec 2017 #46
Someone mishandled this situation and I need to know more about Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #47
I thought DownriverDem Dec 2017 #63
No. He asked for an investigation but other democrats pushed him to resign. LisaL Dec 2017 #64
I thought he hasn't resign yet disndat Dec 2017 #91
brilliant idea onetexan Dec 2017 #54
Why not? 😀 bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #2
Because I will vote for Joe Biden RainCaster Dec 2017 #61
Joe Biden has also been "compromised" because of his japple Dec 2017 #68
I agree. I was shocked at the time. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #71
Also apparently there are lots of photos of Biden LisaL Dec 2017 #72
I know. It breaks my heart. Think I read a post recently that said Joe won't run. japple Dec 2017 #75
I'll vote for the Democratic candidate DavidDvorkin Dec 2017 #2
Yep. This. TDale313 Dec 2017 #57
He got "'branded", he hasn't a chance. oasis Dec 2017 #5
He is not interested in being President tenderfoot Dec 2017 #6
Come on, every politician says that. Cattledog Dec 2017 #11
Especially the ones that truly don't tenderfoot Dec 2017 #15
Each morning, every US Senator looks in the mirror over the bathroom sink NCjack Dec 2017 #106
Yes Hayduke Bomgarte Dec 2017 #7
As long as it's as a Democrat. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #8
Honestly, can we get through midterms first? Heartstrings Dec 2017 #9
What party? pintobean Dec 2017 #10
Obviously he won't flip to the Republican party. LisaL Dec 2017 #13
Flip to the Repubics? Who's encouraging Franken to do such a ridiculous thing?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #30
Nobody, but... caraher Dec 2017 #76
Most likely. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #12
Maybe Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #14
Yes MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #16
I would rather see him as head of the FCC. Obama/Yates. Lets have two women leading the ticket nt Snotcicles Dec 2017 #17
Oh, the FCC would be possible and appropriate. Hortensis Dec 2017 #20
In a heartbeat n/t eissa Dec 2017 #18
yes stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #19
Yes davekriss Dec 2017 #21
Oh please. tazkcmo Dec 2017 #32
I beg to differ, it did stop HRC davekriss Dec 2017 #43
I would vote for him. He's highly intelligent, clear, and reflective. I regret what happened... NNadir Dec 2017 #22
Absolutely Egnever Dec 2017 #23
Harris / Franken C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #24
Hell yeah Lotusflower70 Dec 2017 #25
Twice. n/t tazkcmo Dec 2017 #26
It's not going to happen. But I'll vote for the Democrat, whoever it is. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #27
Yes. dchill Dec 2017 #28
you betcha KewlKat Dec 2017 #29
If it was a primary between Franken and Gillibrand rateyes Dec 2017 #31
Yes, Yates indeed. K&R n/t. rzemanfl Dec 2017 #33
Yes, but I want Yates to be AG. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #35
Yes and with Adam Schiff for VP. nt kiranon Dec 2017 #84
For sure Break time Dec 2017 #36
Franken-Gillibrand Dalton Mac Dec 2017 #37
Then I would have a dilemma Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #39
Yes. onecaliberal Dec 2017 #38
Absolutely! Thats rainy Dec 2017 #40
Yes. A Franken/Frank ticket please. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #41
He'll never be cleared, and that is what bothers me most ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #42
I wont think about the Presidential race until after 2018. brooklynite Dec 2017 #44
Yes. krispos42 Dec 2017 #45
Absolutely Butterflylady Dec 2017 #48
Yes. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #49
Surely. byronius Dec 2017 #50
I think Franken should run for Governor of Minnesota. roamer65 Dec 2017 #51
That would be super!!! LakeArenal Dec 2017 #73
I like that idea. DAMANgoldberg Dec 2017 #111
Yes mountain grammy Dec 2017 #52
Yes! Rustynaerduwell Dec 2017 #53
And a question that no one here would dare answer LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #55
I'll answer Egnever Dec 2017 #65
For Senate, you mean? caraher Dec 2017 #77
For Senate yes. At least at first. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #93
The Democratic leadership has no power to Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #94
For all intents and purposes LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #104
No it is not. He only answers to the people of Minnesota. Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #105
He only answers to the people of Minnesota LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #107
I still think there's some kind of end game to the games they are playing. Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #116
Emphatic YES and love that ticket!!! BamaRefugee Dec 2017 #56
Yes. nt Susan Calvin Dec 2017 #58
If he was the Dem nominee ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #59
Totally agree DownriverDem Dec 2017 #62
As a Dem DownriverDem Dec 2017 #60
I'd vote for my pet schnauzer over a republican... Sancho Dec 2017 #66
Yes. XRubicon Dec 2017 #67
Yes. Polly Hennessey Dec 2017 #69
YES JI7 Dec 2017 #70
Yes infullview Dec 2017 #74
Heck yes!! Duppers Dec 2017 #78
In a New York Minute. democratisphere Dec 2017 #79
yes but I'd like YATES/Franken more. trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #80
I think the world of Al Franken; but it depends on who else is running. sandensea Dec 2017 #81
If Al Franken Runs For President In 2020, I'd Vote For Him Vogon_Glory Dec 2017 #82
Absolutely usaf-vet Dec 2017 #83
Sure would doc03 Dec 2017 #85
YES, would vote for Franken! Franken/Schiff R B Garr Dec 2017 #86
Just saw you had Yates there -- yes, she is awesome. R B Garr Dec 2017 #87
Given all that i know today, yes. barbtries Dec 2017 #88
Yes treestar Dec 2017 #89
No. We need some new blood Louis1895 Dec 2017 #90
If he became the Democratic nominee... Louis1895 Dec 2017 #92
Yes! With Tammy Duckworth ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #95
Would be proud to. CommonHumanity Dec 2017 #96
He he were the Democratic nominee, of course. BigDemVoter Dec 2017 #97
Yes. Franken/Schiff. smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #98
Yes Rocky888 Dec 2017 #99
Bet your ass, I would (n/t) PJMcK Dec 2017 #100
I like him janterry Dec 2017 #101
Honestly no! Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #102
I don't expect Franken to run for President Progressive dog Dec 2017 #103
Neither do I. I don't think there is any chance of that, actually. LisaL Dec 2017 #109
Primary? No. General. Of course. I am a DU member. GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #108
Yes superpatriotman Dec 2017 #110
I'm a #metoo participant and I would vote for him in a heartbeat tavalon Dec 2017 #112
HELL YES. And with Yates? HELL YESSSSSS VOX Dec 2017 #113
Sure! Why not? RealityChik Dec 2017 #114
Of course. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #115
Absolutely Generic Brad Dec 2017 #117
No donco Dec 2017 #118
Yes blue cat Dec 2017 #119
I vote for Al Franken Gothmog Dec 2017 #120

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
46. How do you expect him to be cleared?
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:33 PM
Dec 2017

He asked for investigation, but his fellow democrats demanded he resign without one. There won't be an investigation.

Irish_Dem

(47,518 posts)
47. Someone mishandled this situation and I need to know more about
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:35 PM
Dec 2017

what happened and why. Either on Al's side or Dem leadership.
I am not making any assumptions at this point.
I just don't have enough information either way.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
64. No. He asked for an investigation but other democrats pushed him to resign.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:00 PM
Dec 2017

Once he resigns there is no investigation.

disndat

(1,887 posts)
91. I thought he hasn't resign yet
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:53 PM
Dec 2017

Franken said, I think, he would resign in a few weeks. Maybe he is waiting to hear possible support for him stay. or wait for
an Ethical committee hearing.

japple

(9,844 posts)
68. Joe Biden has also been "compromised" because of his
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:15 PM
Dec 2017

actions during the Clarence Thomas hearings. Blessed Virgen de Guadalupe can't even make the cut these days.

LakeArenal

(28,858 posts)
71. I agree. I was shocked at the time.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:18 PM
Dec 2017

With all the Biden praise I never Brought it up. I like Joe. As another DUer has said. Better a tarnished friend than a shiny enemy.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
72. Also apparently there are lots of photos of Biden
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:20 PM
Dec 2017

with various constituents. I am sure they all asked for these photos but that doesn't seem to matter.

japple

(9,844 posts)
75. I know. It breaks my heart. Think I read a post recently that said Joe won't run.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:23 PM
Dec 2017

I def. think we need new youngbloods in this party, but I know many youngbloods who aren't ready to stick with the current message. They want someone who will speak truth to power, like Bernie. They don't want a compromiser-in-chief.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
106. Each morning, every US Senator looks in the mirror over the bathroom sink
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:32 PM
Dec 2017

and sees the next President of the USA.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
10. What party?
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:02 PM
Dec 2017

I've seen posts on DU encouraging him to flip to the Republicans, or become an independent.

So, what party does your scenario put him in, and are we talking primary or general?

caraher

(6,279 posts)
76. Nobody, but...
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:25 PM
Dec 2017

if he were a Republican, we'd all be hearing the allegations are just a nothingburger and nobody in his party would call for his head.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Oh, the FCC would be possible and appropriate.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:48 PM
Dec 2017

He has a very serious interest in that, of course.

I'd like to see a lot more of Sally Yates, but something befitting her experience and talents.

(Michelle for president? So fortunately for her, our wishes aren't a draft.)

davekriss

(4,628 posts)
21. Yes
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:52 PM
Dec 2017

But, if he did, we’d lose. The right wing Wurlitzer would love it (main stream media). We’d hear nothing except “sexual harassment” this and that and nothing else. No word about sane policies and positions would be heard. The low-information voters (who dominate) will vote Republican.

tazkcmo

(7,303 posts)
32. Oh please.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:02 PM
Dec 2017

No matter who the Dems run you'll hear crap from the GOPee. It didn't stop HRC nor should it stop any other qualified nominee. He'd be running against the Groper-in-Chief so they'd be on even footing.

The Democratic Party must stop worrying about what the GOPee would do.

davekriss

(4,628 posts)
43. I beg to differ, it did stop HRC
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:29 PM
Dec 2017

Do you think Trump would be anywhere near the Oval Office except for the non-stop spin of the Wurlitzer? My point is, because Al chose to resign rather than fight, he’s left enormous ammunition on the table which would be used to shoot him down.

NNadir

(33,574 posts)
22. I would vote for him. He's highly intelligent, clear, and reflective. I regret what happened...
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:53 PM
Dec 2017

...but he has honestly addressed it.

I hope he's back soon.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
25. Hell yeah
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:58 PM
Dec 2017

I campaigned for him as a Senator. I would be all in on getting him to the White House. Franken/Yates would be a fantastic ticket.

Break time

(195 posts)
36. For sure
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:12 PM
Dec 2017

In a heartbeat... Yates, Warren, Brown and I am sure there are many more that would make good VPs and/or Pres.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
39. Then I would have a dilemma
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:16 PM
Dec 2017

But I voted twice for Obama, even with the clarence thomas enabler on the ticket.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
42. He'll never be cleared, and that is what bothers me most
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:19 PM
Dec 2017

After he resigns, that will be the end of that. No more questioning Tweeden, Hannity, and Stone.

That's why I would vote for Franken for pres in a heartbeat.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
45. Yes.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:32 PM
Dec 2017

An instance or two of pushing boundaries while performing (for the troops, no less) and allegations of ass-groping during photo ops at the Minnesota State Fair that can't be proven or refuted don't make him ineligible.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
111. I like that idea.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:46 PM
Dec 2017

This has a great chance to keep MN DFL and keep Jason Lewis or Norm Coleman away from it.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
55. And a question that no one here would dare answer
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:44 PM
Dec 2017

For fear of answering the question "wrong"

What if..the Democrats carry on this sham and kick him out, and so, leaving him no choice, he runs as an Independent candidate?
Same person, same positions on the issues, still fighting Trump, and would most likely caucus and vote with Dems, just with a different letter in front of his name.



 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
65. I'll answer
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:02 PM
Dec 2017

I would vote for him no matter what letter was behind his name.

I know his track record and I approve regardless of party.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
77. For Senate, you mean?
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:27 PM
Dec 2017

I don't think he has any interest in the presidency. And moreover, regardless of office, I think he's too smart (like Sanders was) to divide the vote and give Republicans a shot at a Senate seat, governorship or the presidency with a third party run.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
93. For Senate yes. At least at first.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:54 PM
Dec 2017

He maybe could have been ready to run for President in 2020 as a D if this whole debacle never happened. But now, just keeping his Senate seat would be a bonus, under any banner. I would hope that the Democrats would not run a candidate against him. As they basically do with Bernie Sanders. They'd be cutting off their nose to spite Al Franken if they did. And they'd also probably get very embarrassed as I think he'd do much better than a DNC sanctioned one. If they were stupid enough to do that then yes you may be right and those D votes might be just enough to split the vote.

But I also think that America is ready for an independent candidate for President. Trump basically ran as one with his spurious attacks on past Republican Presidents, and even established Republicans still serving in Washington. The same reason Sanders had a higher approval rating than Clinton was his perceived independence from 'the swamp'.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
104. For all intents and purposes
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:38 PM
Dec 2017

A large part of the Democratic leadership demanding his resignation (without due process) is "kicking him out".

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
107. He only answers to the people of Minnesota
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:36 PM
Dec 2017

I agree with you there.

But do you think that the DNC will be actively supporting him if he stays a Democrat and tries to run under their banner? After they humiliated him like that, I don't know why he would even. But if he did, the DNC and Democrats that have been pushing for his resignation, saying he is unfit for office, would never want to be labeled as hypocrites, especially when it comes to the delicate issue of sexual misconduct. He'd be basically on his own anyways. Might as well go full on I.

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
116. I still think there's some kind of end game to the games they are playing.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:45 AM
Dec 2017

We'll see what happens if Roy Moore wins and what the reaction is to that.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
59. If he was the Dem nominee
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:55 PM
Dec 2017

Of course. That's why I support DU. If he's not, I'll support the Dem nominee. I think a Booker/Gillibrand ticket would have a great chance.

DownriverDem

(6,232 posts)
60. As a Dem
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:55 PM
Dec 2017

If Franken runs as a Dem he would get my vote. I would hope his running mate would have wide appeal.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
66. I'd vote for my pet schnauzer over a republican...
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:13 PM
Dec 2017

and Franken would be as good as any.

At this point, it's a war.

sandensea

(21,688 posts)
81. I think the world of Al Franken; but it depends on who else is running.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:35 PM
Dec 2017

Besides: as we all know, trial by media can be just as damaging as any judicial trial - and usually more so. Today's fascists - here or abroad - have become very good at that game.

I'm just not sure Sen. Franken's reputation can survive that kind of harm enough to see him through a presidential run (think Chappaquiddick).

Vogon_Glory

(9,133 posts)
82. If Al Franken Runs For President In 2020, I'd Vote For Him
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:35 PM
Dec 2017

And if Al gets that far, it'll probably be because the rat-f***ers who tried to stop him were exposed and the people who mobbed him will be too humiliated to survive the primary process.

usaf-vet

(6,217 posts)
83. Absolutely
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:36 PM
Dec 2017

In a heart beat. Yates works too. Anybody on the lynch mob....never ever. They could have had the investigation first.

R B Garr

(16,995 posts)
86. YES, would vote for Franken! Franken/Schiff
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:38 PM
Dec 2017

Schiff/Franken. I'm sure I'm missing a couple obvious good choices, but those two came to mind immediately.

edit: oh, and Hillary Clinton for NY Senate -- again!

barbtries

(28,815 posts)
88. Given all that i know today, yes.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:42 PM
Dec 2017

it's a damn shame the democrats piled on him to resign so the investigation could not play out. he's one of the best. yes, i would if the election was held today. it's hard for me to imagine that he's guilty of anything worse than occasionally being an ass. and as a co-smoker said the other day, "He was a comedian."

yes. Yates seems a good choice as well. i had been thinking Kamala Harris but not pleased with her today.

Louis1895

(768 posts)
90. No. We need some new blood
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:52 PM
Dec 2017

I really like Al. I think he is a better Senator than comedian. In fact, I believe he is brilliant but I think he carries too much baggage to run for President. I think he would be fantastic as a Cabinet member.

Louis1895

(768 posts)
92. If he became the Democratic nominee...
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:54 PM
Dec 2017

...I definitely would but I would prefer someone else in the primary, assuming someone I liked more was running.

CommonHumanity

(246 posts)
96. Would be proud to.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 07:00 PM
Dec 2017

Would be proud to. He speaks truth to power. I am a feminist through and through but do not plan to vote based on gender. My vote goes to the candidate who is able to present a clear and compelling progressive agenda in a manner that most people can relate to. Oh yeah, and did I mention sane? The candidate needs to be demonstrably SANE and level-headed.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
102. Honestly no!
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 07:57 PM
Dec 2017

Shocking because I love what Al has done and stood for. However, the right will just repeat the lies and smears.

I want Jay Inslee and Joe Kennedy III

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
109. Neither do I. I don't think there is any chance of that, actually.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:41 PM
Dec 2017

Might have been if not for what happened.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
108. Primary? No. General. Of course. I am a DU member.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:38 PM
Dec 2017

Independent? Get back with me. Not too thrilled with Independents now.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
112. I'm a #metoo participant and I would vote for him in a heartbeat
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:56 AM
Dec 2017

They railroaded him. I suspect he won't be the last.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
113. HELL YES. And with Yates? HELL YESSSSSS
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:07 AM
Dec 2017

Al is brilliant. Yates is sharp and has charisma. These two would be a “Common Sense” paring— as in, a return to common sense.

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