Theological scholar explains horrifying reason Trumps supporters celebrated Armageddon in Pensacola

[highplainsdem]

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/theological-scholar-explains-horrifying-reason-trumps-supporters-celebrated-armageddon-in-pensacola/

In a Pensacola, Florida rally Friday evening, Republican state Senator Doug Broxson suggested to supporters of Donald Trump that the president’s controversial decision to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem may usher in the biblical end times.

“Now, I don’t know about you, but when I heard about Jerusalem — where the King of Kings [applause] where our soon coming King is coming back to Jerusalem, it is because President Trump declared Jerusalem to be capital of Israel,” Broxson predicted. The crowd cheered.

This week, theological scholar Dr. Diana Butler Bass wrote a Twitter thread explaining the link between recognition of Jerusalem, evangelical Christians, and the apocalypse. That is important because rebuilding the Temple is the event that will spark the events of the Book of Revelation and the End Times.”

According to Bass, the counsel of evangelical adviser that Trump surrounds himself with take such “End Times” prophecies literally

“Of all the possible theological dog-whistles to his evangelical base, this is the biggest,” she continued. “Trump is reminding them that he is carrying out God’s will to these Last Days. They’ve been waiting for this, praying for this. They want war in the Middle East. The Battle of Armageddon, at which time Jesus Christ will return to the Earth and vanquish all God’s enemies.”

She warned that for some evangelicals this is considered a “climax of history.”

“And Trump is taking them there. To the promised judgment, to their sure victory. The righteous will be ushered to heaven; the reprobate will be banished to hellfire,” Bass went on. “People believe this. Really believe this. Have given their lives to these ideas, sing about them in their churches, evangelize others, teach them in Sunday schools. And, this morning, with the news of Jerusalem, these people are ecstatic. This is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. And Donald Trump is not only acting on a campaign promise, but enacting a theological one.”

She went on to explain that the reason many white evangelicals supported Trump to the tune of 80 percent is more than an abortion issue. Many actually believe that Trump is unfolding God’s purpose.

“They believe that Donald Trump is God’s instrument to move us closer to the Rapture, the Judgment, and the End,” she wrote. “Because to them, that’s actually the beginning — the beginning of their reward and heavenly bliss.”

[RKP5637]

1. Hmmmm, can they work this so they just take themselves out and leave the rest of us the F alone! n/t

[notdarkyet]

16. They all need to move to Israel and help build the new temple. They will

Be right where they need to be to be nuked..raptured

[maddiemom]

44. They need to be "raptured" DOWN, not up.

And just leave the rest of us alone.

[Hortensis]

56. :) Over 30 million Americans are expecting the Rapture

with varying degrees of enthusiasm, but many eager for it, last time I read Pew's report on it. If they'd kindly fly away, up and/or down, I'd be looking forward to it with enthusiasm also.

As it is, they're a force. Worse, the dominionist movements have busily infiltrated most mainstream Christian sects so a majority of conservative Christians feel that government would do much better with religious guidance, while that same 30 millions plus more would support a full-blown theocratic dictatorship, masquerading as a democracy or not. Of course, guidance-lite is what Iranian voters were promised and the latter is what they got.

Serious business because the billionaire right is not only working with but overlaps the religious extremists in joint efforts to take over the U.S.

[elehhhhna]

76. Per bible 144k go to heaven

The antichrist shows up first, and nobody will know it's coming. This Christian suicide cult needs to read up and fUck off

[northoftheborder]

2. yes, I've heard with my own two ears a Southern Baptist

express this belief. Recommended - not because I believe it, but because thousands in US do. It doesn't matter how many terrible things Trump does, to them. No matter, the already unfolding violence and protest.

[anneboleyn]

36. Theyve been buying the Rapture garbage for 150 years. Every few years the dates/persons change

but they still convince themselves, as it’s a very narcissistic belief, that THEY will be the super special ones (you know unlike every other human and their own relatives and so on who believed in the rapture themselves but died without being raptured).

[sprinkleeninow]

67. And thousands, tens of, DON'T believe this rapture business as

being 'preached'.

'They' believe and brainwash the 'flock' that falls for this literal teaching wherein Christ will pull the true believers (hahah) out of this world and then wreck the rest of it before first giving those left a last chance to convert. Then He will return with the 'saved' and they will rule the restored earth for 1,000 yrs. Orrr a variation this.

They want to prepare the physical Jerusalem for this event.

Honestly this frosts me and I am a practicing Christian.

Mb the foolish will bring on Armageddon, the Apocalypse and the end of the age as we know it.

[treestar]

111. I wonder what God would do

if they bring it on before He intends?

They wrecked my big moment! says God.

[sprinkleeninow]

113. If they are so deceived to think 'they' can bring it on. God will not be mocked.

As bad as it 'could' start looking like bad, it also can be stopped in the 'twinkling of an eye'.

So much prophetic preaching and teaching in error and confusion.

What if Christ just appears suddenly and that's the end of the age? They have this hard and fast idea that He's gonna do it 'their' way.

[librechik]

3. Right. The King of Kings will restore slavery to heal the American state.Millions will die

A few will be elevated to godlike status. They absolutely believe this and absolutely believe they themselves will be among the elected few to sit on God's right hand, because they are so superior to their neighbors.

These people are despicable un-Christian morons.

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. You are 100% correct.

I run across professional people who seem nice right up to the point they try to save my soul and rant on about the dire prophecy of the Coming. What Trump did is gonna make them even more fanatical.

[sprinkleeninow]

69. I'll 'save' your soul.

Don't fall for this tripe. There. Fixed your eternal destiny.

[whathehell]

28. Slavery? Where does it say anything about slavery?

[librechik]

58. the original "remnant" myth was a vision a girl had in the 1800s. RW zealots have turned

the story to advantage their own silly ass covering delusions. It's not anywhere in the Biblical text. These Bozos use God to justify anything they want to do.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/554986.The_Family

[whathehell]

93. It's not in the biblical text & they don't preach it now, so it's

probably best if we don't make things worse by adding things that aren't there.

Trust me, I can't stand these flaming morons, but I think characterizing their 'prophecy" in even more incendiary terms than it actually is, only makes things worse.

[Break time]

4. Bunch of idiots

More shit from so called "christians" ...fuck em. It is beyond time for any real true "christians" to come out strongly against this bullshit...Until they do I will just continue to think they are all in for this stuff

[Mariana]

12. I hope you aren't holding your breath.

Christians who don't approve of all these gleeful fantasies of widespread death and destruction generally just wash their hands, so to speak, by declaring that these loons aren't real Christians like they are. Done! Wasn't that easy?

[Break time]

31. Well

Being an atheist, I pretty much don't really give a rats ass about them and they pretty much prove I am right by their lack of real actions in behalf of their "beliefs" ...By hiding behind the claim that they "others" aren't real "christians" and not speaking out loudly and constantly in public against the "fakes" they are actually condoning them by their silence.

[sprinkleeninow]

70. That's not true. Here's one who is truly rankled by this eschatological

so-called teaching by mb wolves in sheep's clothing.

[Mariana]

74. I used the word "generally" in that post.

That's because I didn't mean to say, and in fact did not say or imply that every Christian does what I said.

Lots of Christians do, though. Happens all the time here on DU. Either they say outright that people who believe or do XYZ aren't real Christians, or they put the word Christian in quotes, or some such thing. The implication is very clear that rotten people can't possibly be Christians. Only non-Christians can be rotten people.

[sprinkleeninow]

78. Okay. Generally.

Generally sounds like usually to me.

I am not agin you.

Rotten people can call themselves/feel like/assume they are 'christians'.

I do call them so-called for the sake of.
As a practicing one, I try to refrain from judging as I am concerned about my own rear-end.

I know non-churched/non-believers perhaps that display and conduct their lives in a more worthy manner as Christ taught.

[Mariana]

95. You know what? There are plenty of rotten people

whose faith in Christ is absolutely sincere. They are worshiping the same god. They believe Christ was the only begotten son of that god, that his mother was a virgin, that he performed various miracles, that he was crucified and died and then was resurrected. So, their religious beliefs and yours are probably pretty similar in many respects. Where you part company is in what you do as a result of that faith. Your faith inspires you to do certain things that you might not do otherwise, I imagine. Their faith inspires them to do different things.

[sprinkleeninow]

100. Words and acts. Words meaningless. Acts speak volumes.

1 John 4 & 20.

[GulfCoast66]

23. These folks are true Christians

They just take the Bible as written not gussied up to fit modern sensibilities.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. No they don't. THEY gussy it up to fit homophobic modern sensibilities.

Jesus said nothing in the bible against homosexuals.

He did day help the poor, the strangers, the whores.

I'm surprised I have to explain this on DU to you.

?

[bobbieinok]

45. Thanks for this. Needs to be repeatedly emphasized at DU

[GulfCoast66]

62. Plenty in the Bible to justify their beliefs

Sure, you and some others choose to emphasize different parts. But there is as much hate as love in that book. And even the love is couched in the ‘love me or go to hell’ threat. That threat is scattered all throughout the New Testament.

And do not bother explaining old vs new testament blather. They are all part of the same book and many Christians value the old as much as the new.

I was raised Southern Baptist. They preach all the love stuff in your post. But they do not ignore all the hate stuff either. I guarantee you that many of Moore’s greatest supporters give generously to their church and to the needy in their community. But they are also great haters.

Have a nice day.

[jmowreader]

63. The Biblical marriage thing always got me

You know the drill: Adam was married to Eve (although “shacking up with” is closer to the truth) and Joseph to Mary, so God only approves of one man-one woman marriages. I do believe those were the only two of those marriages in the Bible. Plural marriage was God’s Way.

[GulfCoast66]

65. Plus where did generation number 2,3 and 4 come from?

Guess there was a lot of incest going on.

Might explain some things about southern evangelical types and their daughters...I grew up southern evangelical. There were some really freaky families in our church.

[Mariana]

73. God hadn't yet forbidden incest, according to the story.

So they weren't breaking any rules by engaging in it at that time.

[GulfCoast66]

97. How nice.

These people are cult members

[Mariana]

102. Just saying what they'll tell you, if you bring that up.

It's an important point to illustrate their thinking. Actions can only be bad if God explicitly forbids them. Anything he doesn't forbid is just fine to do. And if God wants something done, it's always good to do it. Which is really fucking scary, because I think a lot of them seriously think of Trump as God's representative or prophet or whatever word you want to use. If he tells them something is God's will, they will believe it, and they will do anything he tells them to do. Anything.

[Break time]

32. NOT true

They all cherry pick what they want in order to fit what they want to do...

[jl_theprofessor]

39. Done spewing your bullshit?

Plenty of Christians speak out against this stuff. Probably a lot of people you associate with on this website.

[safeinOhio]

52. As a peaceful Atheist, I do like

Red Letter Bible Christians.

https://www.redletterchristians.org

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

90. If all Christians were Red Letter Christians,

the world would be a better place.

[FailureToCommunicate]

64. +1

[sprinkleeninow]

71. I just came out here on another reply post.

I am incensed that this has actually now shown itself in the open, involving/connecting our nation's 'leaders', and not just being spoken in 'their' circles.

[TreasonousBastard]

5. This isn't anything new-- from the end of the Palestine Mandate and creation of modern Israel...

they have been peeing their pants over thought of the Second Coming coming in their lifetimes. (Cumming over the Second Coming coming?)

I remember even back in the '60s there was talk in even mainstream Protestant churches about how lucky we'll be to see it. We've had a number of end-times revivals over the years, but the creation of Israel really set off the Revelation readers.

[treestar]

57. In it must have been around 1972

a friend took me to her church which was having an outing to go bowling. Before that, we had to hear a sermon. The preacher told us that as teenagers, we would not live to age 30 because it was all coming sooner than that.

Age 58 now.

I think the Jehovah's Witnesses declared the end was in something like 1914. 1914 came and went. They did it a few more times before they realized they'd better quit doing that.

[keithbvadu2]

6. Maybe the rapture has already happened... and they're still here... with us.

[relayerbob]

85. Well, Bowie and Prince are gone, so perhaps so

[keithbvadu2]

7. Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

[Phoenix61]

8. Spot on

This is why we don't need to waste our resources trying to get their vote. It's a form of magical thinking that is immune to rational thought. Socially, it allows them to feel superior. They are on the winning team and can't wait for the game to end so they can collect their reward. That we, the unbelievers, will collect our punishment is just the icing on the cake.

[hatrack]

11. Those who don't just believe, but actually long for the blood-soaked bullshit of Revelations . . .

Are people we are not going to be able to reach.

Their brains were eaten long ago.

[Phoenix61]

14. For those folks if you don't

believe in Revelations and long for it you're not a true believer. I've had lots of discussions with several and it can be fascinating how they compartmentalize information. Science is cool until it challenges anything in the bible.

[sprinkleeninow]

77. Teaching of and preaching on The Book of Revelation

gets many into trouble.

[NastyRiffraff]

20. The weird thing is they believe THEY are among the "elect"

Some of them believe in a LITERAL 144,000 who will be raptured (a word, BTW, that doesn't appear in the Bible). That's 144,000 of all people living and who have ever lived. But they will be one of them! Never mind that there's more than 144,000 of them living now; facts don't matter.

I completely agree that trying to reason with these people is a massive waste of time.

[rainin]

37. Yes! My mom believes she is one of the chosen.

She believes her son is in heaven, even though he never did anything remotely Christian. He didn't even try to appear to others like a Christian. She called the Chaplain in after he went into a coma. That gave her peace.

The flip side is she knows who isn't going to heaven. Sometimes, just be looking at them.

[keithbvadu2]

89. Who gets into heaven?

Judge not!

I was shocked, confused, bewildered
As I entered Heaven's door,
Not by the beauty of it all,
Nor the lights or its decor.

But it was the folks in Heaven
Who made me sputter and gasp--
The thieves, the liars, the sinners,
The alcoholics and the trash.

There stood the kid from seventh grade
Who swiped my lunch money twice.
Next to him was my old neighbor
Who never said anything nice.

Bob, who I always thought
Was rotting away in hell,
Was sitting pretty on cloud nine,
Looking incredibly well.

I nudged St Peter, 'What's the deal?
I would love to hear Your take.
How'd all these sinners get up here?
God must've made a mistake.

'And why is everyone so quiet,
So somber - give me a clue.'
'Hush, child,' He said, 'They're all in shock.
No one thought they'd be seeing you.'

[luvtheGWN]

17. Yes, it's impossible to have a rational conversation with a cult member,

and that is exactly what they are.....sadly.

[smirkymonkey]

38. What will they do when Trump is out of office? And worse, a Democrat replaces him?

There is a very real chance that Trump could bring about the end times, between all his shit-stirring w/ NK and the ME. It hasn't even been a year yet and I never imagined that he could cause so much destruction in such a short period of time. If he lasts for four years, there is no telling what kind of hell he will bring upon us all.

What scares me is what these true believers will do if they think their mission is being thwarted. There is no telling how far they will go.

[LongTomH]

50. 80% of evangelicals supported Trump. We may be able to reach some of the remaining 20%.

May I remind my colleagues of some electoral realities:

1. Modern elections swing on small margins.
2. A winning coalition can include voters from many communities; a few here, a few there.
3. Some evangelicals are waking up to reality; some are even talking about environmental issues.

[Iliyah]

53. What I'm reading, t-rump is losing them as well

well down to 61% now and falling. Not all evangelists believe in the Armageddon hype. Actually they are a small minority that has a whole lot of money that have brainwashed their base.

[keithbvadu2]

86. "collect their reward" - maybe collect it early?

Those folks selling the end-times books and movies?

Are they genuine in their beliefs? There is a way to tell.

Are they accumulating long term wealth?
.

[CrispyQ]

9. The world will be a better place after their stupid rapture takes place.

Wish it would really happen–soon!

Delusional, destructive assholes.

[CanonRay]

10. Maybe, in their own parlance,

Trump is the false prophet: the Devil, leading these fools over the cliff.

[highplainsdem]

13. Well, when you consider that the Kushners own a building with the address 666...

[mjvpi]

26. Exactly

They understand the plot, they just don’t understand what part they been cast in.

[sprinkleeninow]

72. You have spoken true words. eom

[bluestarone]

94. my thoughts too

i'm thinking if there right MOST people here on this site will head UP! And the rest will stay with tRump LMAO

[AwakeAtLast]

87. I have thought this for a long time

There is no other person I know of right now who is more Anti-Christ.

[Lucky Luciano]

18. People this stupid actually have the right to vote.

I don’t know why they hate terrorists so much...seems like they want the ultimate terrorist incidents to occur.

[lark]

19. Delusional christo-fascists.

He did this for none of those reasons, he's never thought that deeply in his entire life. Watching MSNBC and they said the presidents advisors say he's doing this to prove his pro-Israeli credentials and to please his base. That's the most thought that's gone into this. He's too stupid to understand that he just personally PREVENTED any peace from happening.

This menace to the entire world needs to go away, permanently, one way or the other.

[highplainsdem]

21. Joy Reid's talking about this now.

[Vinca]

24. Did you see the clip when the orange idiot was speaking to the crowd and said

"Happy Hannukkah?" The sheeple didn't exactly go wild with applause. Expecting "Merry Christmas" I imagine. What a bunch of fools.

[relayerbob]

22. This would make him the Anti-Christ

[gratuitous]

27. That would be highly justified, biblically speaking

The end times stuff is based on a very selective reading of scripture, cross-referencing disparate verses written centuries apart. It's as if someone was interpreting a William Shakespeare play in light of a Sam Shepard play.

But remember that James Comey tweet from last week, the one about justice rolling down like waters? That's from the book of Amos, and was a verse favored by Dr. King during the Civil Rights Era. The verses preceding that payoff get overlooked, but I think they're highly appropriate to quote for our friends who are so eager for the Day of the Lord:

18 Woe to you who long
for the day of the Lord!
Why do you long for the day of the Lord?
That day will be darkness, not light.
19 It will be as though a man fled from a lion
only to meet a bear,
as though he entered his house
and rested his hand on the wall
only to have a snake bite him.
20 Will not the day of the Lord be darkness, not light—
pitch-dark, without a ray of brightness?
21 “I hate, I despise your religious festivals;
your assemblies are a stench to me.
22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings,
I will not accept them.
Though you bring choice fellowship offerings,
I will have no regard for them.
23 Away with the noise of your songs!
I will not listen to the music of your harps.
24 But let justice roll on like a river,
righteousness like a never-failing stream!"

For some reason, they never seem to think that some of that stern judgment and tribulation is going to be visited on their pointy little noggins.

[bobbieinok]

46. An extremely important passage missing from T's supporters' Bibles!!

[relayerbob]

84. They aren't reading the Bible

That presumes they can read

[Pathwalker]

96. Could you please give me the book & chapter of this passage?

I would love that. Thank you.

[gratuitous]

110. Amos chapter 5 verses 18-24

Hebrew Testament, third minor prophet after the four majors.

[sprinkleeninow]

115. Comey likes Amos. Where was he last year with unequivocal Biblical admonishing?? (Comey)

[sprinkleeninow]

116. Yes, you rocked it! eom

[Collimator]

25. The Anti-Christ or a second King Cyrus of Persia

A friend of mine who is religious said a lot of people in her community think Trump is the Anti-Christ.

This article in Right Wing Watch quotes prominent Christian leaders comparing him to the Persian King Cyrus who sent his captive Jewish population back to Israel.

My friend's community of religious thinkers is mostly African-American. The Christian leaders quoted in the Right Wing Watch article are mostly White Evangelicals. A few of those, in the past, have floated the idea that it was Obama who was the Anti-Christ.

There are so many ways at looking at all these developments that one would need the eyes of a fly to take it all in.

My take is that it doesn't matter whether any given prophecy about anything is true. People can make a prediction play out with their own actions. Anything that diverges from the prophecy slightly can be artistically re-framed to fit the narrative.

It is true that Kushner owns a building with the prophetic "666" in its address. Few Christian leaders seem to be mentioning this, because it doesn't paint their interpretation of events comfortably.

Here's a little tip: When speaking of the final book of the Christian scriptures, note that its name is "Revelation", singular, not "Revelations", plural. It supports your credibility when discussing the subject, and it really irks a Bible-fiend when they get it wrong and you correct them.

[sprinkleeninow]

79. Anti-Christ, Anti-Christs. Any and all things that are against.

Not just necessarily a human being alone.

[keithbvadu2]

88. For over 100 years, each Prez has been called the Anti-Christ.

[treestar]

112. The only one that fit was Ronald Wilson Reagan

who did have 6 letters to each of his names.

[AJT]

29. Well, won't they be suprised when war breaks out, and

there is no rapture or second coming just violence, death and destruction. These are people who are willing to see other people suffer so they can be spared and brought right into heaven. What a narcissistic, hateful group of people.

[DinahMoeHum]

33. Let's remember that Armageddon/Rapture is a PERVERSION of Revelation. . .

. . .pushed on in America by a preacher named John Nelson Darby in the mid-19th century.

I highly recommend reading Rev Dr Barbara Rossing's book The Rapture Exposed for further guidance.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/poptheology/2009/12/the-rapture-exposed/

You can also google Barbara Rossing for further comments on her excellent book.

[LongTomH]

48. Thanks for posting!!! I was raised around people like the Rapture-ready types!!!

I escaped!!!

[rainin]

34. My mom believes this but she won't live long enough to see

the consequences of her zealotry. Her children and grandchildren have to live in this world, and we are at a loss. She will be long gone, rotting in the dirt, too dead to know her whole life she believed a lie. She will not see her mother again. She will not see her deceased children and husband again. She will not sit at the right hand of Jesus. She's dead. We will be left trying to clean up this mess. Thanks Christians!

(I'm venting, so I apologize to Christians who aren't cheering on this madness.)

[Moostache]

54. Unless X-tians are ACTIVELY refuting this nonsense, they OWN it too... (n/t)

[sprinkleeninow]

82. What do you want us to do? What will satisfy?

I ask in love and not wise guy like.

I do not own this. My Tradition of Faith refutes how "Revelation" is preached on by others. My Tradition of Faith has the Wisdom to not preach/ teach The Book of Revelation.

I am disclaiming that anything I write is meant as proselytism.

[Moostache]

98. Your approach multiplied by billions would be a good start...

In all seriousness, the hijacking of any religion persists because the majority of said religions are afraid to publicly refute the wackadoodles and nut cases in the public square.

Christians of legitimate faith can't just shrug and pretend the idiot brigade of "evangelicals" are simply delusional...they must be called to account and in no uncertain terms made clear - YOU (the fools) do not represent ME or CHRIST.

Like I said, anything less is tacit approval and ownership worthy...

[sprinkleeninow]

104. Oy veh. Kabillions. Bazillions.

Today I am riled up in the spirit from reading this OP.

I can only bring it to some of hierarchy's attention via local shepherd. My head hurts.

Perhaps strong vocal sentiment would have a snow balling effect.

Our priest is ex-evangelical and you would not see or hear a trace or hint.

There are instances when some of a certain Tradition of Faith will not join in ecumenism with others because it's hypocritical.

You want to see some Christians warring against 'others'?

It's a fine line 'we' walk.

There is clarity in the Faith I participate in. Not because Ima proud peacock.

Christianity got splintered bad.

[Moostache]

105. Against those who proclaim Christ falsely it is not "war"...

I would settle for louder voices condemning the hypocrites and usurpers and less volume on the condemnation of the outcast and downtrodden of the world.

Gandhi was right all those years ago..."I like your Christ very much, but I am not sure about the Christians"...

[sprinkleeninow]

106. It will transport into a sticky wicket realm. Condemning hypocrites; then you become one.

I have a retro peach basket from the 40's-50's that I 've drug around in my relocations. Do ya want me to grab it, head down to a busy corner and speak my mind?
Lord, have mercy!!

Why not send a missive to hierarchy and run what you feel by them.

[sprinkleeninow]

107. Wait up. I just saw you said "less volume on condemnation of the outcast and downtrodden".

Louder voices calling out eschatological error and yet condemning down-and-outs and disenfranchised all rolled into a 'believer'? Who dat?

[ThoughtCriminal]

35. Most dangerous doomsday cult in the world

They want this, and the GOP panders to the madness.

[HughBeaumont]

40. . . . . . see, this is why I'm down with a plan . .

. . . to not even ATTEMPT to win these voters over, because that's a dead trail.

Instead, let's try to add 2016's non-voters on and explain why voting Democratic is better for the future.

Here's a PAINFULLY obvious place to begin: We tend to have real world solutions adherent to THIS reality; we don't so much deal in myth-based, next-life fantasy land stories, like Revelation, Armageddon or Supply Side Economics.

[rainin]

41. Imagine if Jesus returned today.

How would he dress? How would he talk? Who would he walk with, talk to?

Would Christians believe him?

I once saw a video where a man dressed in tattered clothing entered a church with a hidden camera. He was not treated well. He was asked to leave.

I hope Jesus remembers to wear his Calvin Klein.

[bobbieinok]

42. They believe this and THEY VOTE!!! And for Trump as 'god's annointed leader'!!!

We can ridicule these belefs all we want, but THEY ARE AFFECTING US NOW!

[samnsara]

43. trump will be gone before its built

[47of74]

47. Someone should have been driving along with blow up dolls and set them loose

[milestogo]

49. And this is why the climate change crisis doesn't matter to them.

Fuck the planet. Jesus is coming to get us!

[LongTomH]

51. Bill Hicks on crosses and the second coming:

Would JC want to return to the place where he was crucified?

[treestar]

55. At least Jim Jones' cult only took out themselves

This one wants to take us all out.

[lunasun]

59. Violent murder happy cult

[Martin Eden]

60. If Trump is actually part of Armageddon, he has 666 on his scalp ...

... which explains the need for that orange hairpiece.

[Kirk Lover]

61. This belongs on the fringe...not guiding and shaping our foreign policy. It's garbage day

and this trashbag gots to go.

[Oneironaut]

66. Warlord Jesus demands more blood!

He demands you send poor people to slaughter other poor people while you munch Cheetos on the couch. Amen!

[jmowreader]

68. A few thoughts here

Pensacola has always, for some reason, been a nexus of End Times activity. One of the most extreme Bible colleges is there. Also, when I was stationed in Berlin six fundamentalist soldiers stationed at Field Station Augsburg, Germany, went AWOL and traveled to Pensacola to fight the Antichrist. (Jesus was not pleased. The FSA Special Security Officer was even madder.)

Now if we assume there really is a Jesus we have to also assume he isn’t high on the theory he can be dragged back to earth against his will, which is what they’re trying to do. He might just unload 2000 years of pent-up wrath on his followers and spare the rest of us...and people like Joel Osteen, Jim Bakker, Alex Jones and Creflo Dollar are at the top of his holy shitlist.

The only “heaven” we get is the memories of those we leave behind...and “he was a total fuckhead but he sure did a lot of praying when he wasn’t preying” isn’t the heaven you want.

[Dirty Socialist]

75. THE MOST DANGEROUS IDEA EVER

I am capping all of this because I can't find anything more emphatic. Merely calling this stupid is underestimating the danger of this idea.

[Initech]

80. God these people are fucking insane.

I don't want to die because of them or their recklessness. Shit, I left a church because they preached this shit.

[ellie]

81. These morons

better hope that God forgives them for destroying this planet, harming the poor, and worshipping false gods or they are going to be in for a rude awakening.

[sprinkleeninow]

83. Here are some spiritual leaders speaking out against

the making of Jerusalem the capital of Israel.

Not a refutation of 'Revelation' being preached in an unfortunate and in unnecessary error, but it's a start.

Jerusalem's Christian leaders to Trump: Recognition will cause 'Irreparable....

[link:https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/premium-1.827207|

Egypt :Coptic Pope cancels Pence meeting over Jerusalem
[IGIVE UP! This link IS good, just scroll down a bit for the article. Good grief.]

[link:http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/-egypt-coptic-pope-cancels-pence-meeting-jerusalem-171209174617042.html|

[FSogol]

91. Need proof they are insane? They want Trumpy to give them a big climax!

[July]

92. Like Trump gives jack shit about "God's will." Nt

[OliverQ]

99. So Trump is actually the Anti-Christ afterall?

[Bradical79]

101. Been telling some people this for years

Used to be one! This is how they've always been. They want war, though there wasn't universal agreement on how that war would start.

[Snackshack]

103. Yep...

People should brush up on what exactly is supposed to happen before the "end times" gets here. It gets even nuttier...and much more viscous....

[Turbineguy]

108. When God is created in man's image.

This is what you get.

[BREMPRO]

109. Horrifying..

He's just mad enough to believe he's ushering in these nut jobs "end days" and just dumb enough to do it.

[Garrett78]

114. It's time for religious belief to be listed in the DSM.

If this 2nd coming nonsense isn't a mental illness, then I don't know what is.