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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it me? Franken and Conyers should not resign until we find out what happens with Roy Moore.
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If they have to step down, there should be a equal treatment.
Of course, Trump won't resign while he taps into the country's largess for himself and allies.
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Ilsa
(61,709 posts)until the Rs show everyone what they are.
The Rs will say Franken must have done something worse than chase high school girls since he resigned.
dalton99a
(81,656 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,567 posts)ollie10
(2,091 posts)It has nothing to do really with anybody else.
There is just no there there.....
If Moore loses, if Trump resigns......then Franken should still not resign unless we have more credible evidence than we have now,.
TheBlackAdder
(28,237 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Why wasn't there a hue and cry about Conyers' resignation? I'm not saying what the ultimate disposition of either case should be or should have been but you would have to be blind to not notice the disparity in reactions.
ollie10
(2,091 posts)When we see actual skeletons we can talk.
Until then, what we have is a lynch mob
TheBlackAdder
(28,237 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,567 posts)mopinko
(70,280 posts)employees.
these franken things do not have any element of abuse of power, imho. abuse of celebrity, maybe, but so far there are no allegations that he had any real power over any of the accusers.
puts it in a different ballpark when you are fucking w someone's livelyhood.
that the only one who has identified herself is a know rw'er doesnt help. at this moment in time, i am suspicious of anyone who wont put their name on it. 1 or 2, maybe, but 7 out of 8? yeah, i smell a rat.
but you are right. only al knows what is in his closet. i think his decisions going forward will tell the tale.
diva77
(7,671 posts)either remaining or resigning...and not a moment before.
If swiftboating has occurred, there should be swift punishment for that.
librechik
(30,678 posts)all part of the plan
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Both parties are being challenged. Do we protect maintain a system that protects sexual all forms of sexual predation or do we draw a line and say no more? On their end, do they really support family values? On our side are we a party that supports gender equity and justice?
What they do with their scumbag is their problem. How we react is ours.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)....Together as being similar circumstances. Very different situations and scenarios. In addition to the fact that Conyers even paid settlements- Franken has never been accused of something at that level that could be a crime nor charged with a crime.
Also Conyers is in his 80s and this is also a health related resignation decision.