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TheBlackAdder

(28,237 posts)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:07 PM Dec 2017

Is it me? Franken and Conyers should not resign until we find out what happens with Roy Moore.

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If they have to step down, there should be a equal treatment.

Of course, Trump won't resign while he taps into the country's largess for himself and allies.

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Ilsa

(61,709 posts)
1. I agree. I don't think any D should leave Congress
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:11 PM
Dec 2017

until the Rs show everyone what they are.

The Rs will say Franken must have done something worse than chase high school girls since he resigned.

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
2. Franken should not resign because he has done nothing worthy of resigning
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:12 PM
Dec 2017

It has nothing to do really with anybody else.

There is just no there there.....

If Moore loses, if Trump resigns......then Franken should still not resign unless we have more credible evidence than we have now,.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
4. Why did Conyers have to resign and not Fraken ? The former still denies all the allegations.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:17 PM
Dec 2017

Why wasn't there a hue and cry about Conyers' resignation? I'm not saying what the ultimate disposition of either case should be or should have been but you would have to be blind to not notice the disparity in reactions.



 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
5. What we now have is lame
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:17 PM
Dec 2017

When we see actual skeletons we can talk.

Until then, what we have is a lynch mob

mopinko

(70,280 posts)
12. because there was a settled case, and because it was about
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:42 PM
Dec 2017

employees.

these franken things do not have any element of abuse of power, imho. abuse of celebrity, maybe, but so far there are no allegations that he had any real power over any of the accusers.
puts it in a different ballpark when you are fucking w someone's livelyhood.

that the only one who has identified herself is a know rw'er doesnt help. at this moment in time, i am suspicious of anyone who wont put their name on it. 1 or 2, maybe, but 7 out of 8? yeah, i smell a rat.

but you are right. only al knows what is in his closet. i think his decisions going forward will tell the tale.

diva77

(7,671 posts)
7. There should be an investigation, then based on results, calls for
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:20 PM
Dec 2017

either remaining or resigning...and not a moment before.

If swiftboating has occurred, there should be swift punishment for that.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
13. Roy Moore is not relevant to how our party deals with sexual harassment
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:44 PM
Dec 2017

Both parties are being challenged. Do we protect maintain a system that protects sexual all forms of sexual predation or do we draw a line and say no more? On their end, do they really support family values? On our side are we a party that supports gender equity and justice?
What they do with their scumbag is their problem. How we react is ours.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
14. I disagree with putting Al Franken and John Conyers
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:51 AM
Dec 2017

....Together as being similar circumstances. Very different situations and scenarios. In addition to the fact that Conyers even paid settlements- Franken has never been accused of something at that level that could be a crime nor charged with a crime.

Also Conyers is in his 80’s and this is also a health related resignation decision.

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