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Woke up to this
John Dowd, President Trump's personal lawyer, tells me that a Trump tweet that caused an eruption yesterday was "my mistake," made in a tweet he had drafted and passed to White House social media director Dan Scavino.
It is a stupid excuse of course but the question who drafted it is of no consequence. The point is that Trump tweeted it out and found nothing untruthful with it.
However this is just more lies on other lies. No attorney is drafting tweets for Trump to send out. All attorneys are telling Trump to stop talking about the case, stop tweeting about the case and refer all questions to a single attorney that represents the entire defense team. If that attorney says anything more than "We have no comment" he will be sacked.
Have Dowd and Savino explain minute by minute before FBI agents what happened and maybe we can get these asses understand that they have to stop lying but more likely we are going to get more guilty verdicts.
Evidence of a cover up (lawyer ate the tweet) about a cover up (the actual tweet) of a felony obstruction claim(Flynn lying to the FBI) about the conspiracy (conspiring with the Russians to modify the sanctions) of sedition (not treason).
Sedition:
Congress has passed laws creating related offenses that punish conduct that undermines the government or the national security, such as sedition in the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts, or espionage and sedition in the Espionage Act of 1917, which do not require the testimony of two witnesses and have a much broader definition than Article Three treason. Some of these laws are still in effect. Some well-known spies have been convicted of espionage rather than treason.
We are literally watching people commit felonies before our eyes in slow motion. If the lawyer states before FBI agents that he drafted the tweet and did not, its another level of obstruction. Whether he drafted it or not it has been tweeted out and Trump hasn't disowned it. Who "drafted" the tweet is of zero relevance.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)locking them all up.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)We have to wait until they stop breaking the law until we know who to go after, lol.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Theyve been quiet about *everything* hes done and said to date, enabling him as they go.
Even though 45 is a very sick man, Republicans (whove proven time and again how extremely partisan they are, by putting party before country) are not going to do the right thing at this late date.
Where theres hope: 1) Democrats gain the Senate in 2018, to at least hold the line; 2) Trumps illness explodes, and hes turned out to pasture for health reasons (hopefully before a Dr. Strangelove-type scenario unfolds).
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)his incompetence?
Motley13
(3,867 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)"The Love Toilet"
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The best way to assure all Trump's tweeting will be by his attorney:
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)be some "gold" on there somewhere?
LOVE IT!
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)He can have his gold toilet moved from Fifth Ave. to his cell
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)conjugal visits from Vlad
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)jalan48
(13,883 posts)He can claim some statements made on his Twitter account may not necessarily be by him. How can this be verified? How will the Court's rule in the case of obstruction?
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)And it's not the only or even the main fact the jury will have to look at. The main thing they are going to look is all the things Trump did to protect Flynn and derail Comey, and all the things he said about it . When you look at it that way, a clear pattern emerges.
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)Either my client flamed out and publicly confessed to obstruction of justice or I'm the stupidest lawyer on the planet and admitted it for him. But, I really didn't admit it for him, I'm just so sloppy in my work that I mistakenly tweeted something in his name that admitted it for him. I didn't mean it. It was all a terrible mistake. It's almost too stupid to be true.
Sneederbunk
(14,300 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Its not incoherent, nor does it call for building a wall or impeaching Clinton.
It also writes the narrative theyre pushing. Totally exonerates Trump! He found out Flynn lied to the FBI, so he fired him. Then he told Comey that his firing and shame were punishment enough for such minor crimes, and could Comey please show some mercy for a war hero?
Not a bad smokescreen for a defense. It all makes total sense, since that line of bullshit is taken totally out of the context of other events.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Doesn't matter who "drafted it" Trump typed it and sent it out at 6 in the morning.
No competent attorney is going to be telling their client to tweet out anything about an on going investigation with the FBI, they are going to say "use your right to say nothing".
All this does is give the FBI more people to talk to. They can now bring the attorney in and Scavino and if they lie they will be in trouble and if they truthfully confirm that Trump sent the tweet then they will have established that not only was Trump involved in the obstruction but that he continued it even further.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I suspect that theyre doing their absolute best with whats probably the worlds most difficult client. We also dont know when it was written, just sent, and we dont know who actually wrote it. Plus, the reports said the first dozen attorneys Trump approached turned him down.
They cant stop him from tweeting. Perhaps theyre trying to mitigate the potential damage. Thats not the worst strategy, either. The guy managed to win the electoral college based largely on his role as The Shitlord King of Twitter. Like it or not, a large part of highly visible cases is trying things in the court of public opinion and in the media.
These cases in particular more than most. Impeachment is an inherently political act, as the inevitable pardons will be. If the Mango Mussolinis team can muddy the water enough, that might help provide the political coverage he needs.
Even from a purely courtroom perspective, the most successful defenses are those that can create a smokescreen, just completely confuse the facts so much that anyone so inclined will think not guilty.
From what Ive seen, on Twitter, his explanation of this mornings tweet is catching on. Roughly I fired Flynn because I knew he lied to the FBI, and I asked Comey not to prosecute because a career patriot being professionally ruined was punishment enough.
If you step back and forget that we know more details than most average citizens, thats actually a fairly reasonable, believable explanation. And thats how the GOP works, isnt it? By playing the ignorant.
WE know that there are a dozen questions that blow up Trumps rationalization. Why didnt you fire him when you found out hed committed multiple felonies? If you were just trying to protect the FBI, why did you fire the head of the FBI? How come you kept trying to protect Flynn until just a week before he pled guilty? Why would you hire a disgraced former general when you were specifically warned about him by Obama, Congress, the CIA, the NSA, and even Chris fucking Christie?
Of course its ridiculous bullshit. But thats what its supposed to be.
Theyre all guilty as sin and they know damn well theyve got no legal legs to stand on. So getting the people and the media either on their side or just confused is their best shot.
janx
(24,128 posts)edit: forgot link
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-lawyer-claims-responsibility-trump-s-problematic-tweet-n826036
HipChick
(25,485 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)and Trump typed what he thought the lawyer wanted him to say.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)Who believes maggot DID write that tweet????
grantcart
(53,061 posts)and volunteered to join her boss in jail
Motley13
(3,867 posts)moron to stay the hell off.
Now the moron has 280 characters to incriminate himself.
keep tweeting , imbecile