One of the oddest parts is that they really think there's been no economic growth

I know they hate Obama and are set on erasing everything he did. To scrub him from history. There was growth and a lot of stemmed from tax cuts to the middle class (yes Virginia that happened during the recovery). Totally delusional.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

5. No, they do not. They never will.

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:02 PM

Nov 2017

And, these proposed cuts are for future recipients, putting grandparents against their children and grandchildren. All part of GOP family values.

Recommended.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

10. Then the SS, Medicare, Medi-Cal (Medicaid)

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:14 PM

Nov 2017

deductions can not be included in worker's paychecks. In order to keep SS, Medicare and Medicaid viable for people over 55 years old now, the deductions must continue. Therefore, the GOPers are cheating the working class.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

14. Of course they are.

Reply to Iliyah (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:22 PM

Nov 2017

And we understand that. But so many voters are uninformed, and the GOP depends on that.

atreides1

(16,072 posts)

6. It's not about understanding!

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:02 PM

Nov 2017

It's about whether Trump voters care...and so far, they don't!!!

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)

11. Dont

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:15 PM

Nov 2017

Think they care or believe it. Their savior 🍊💩 will “ save” them from it. 😳👀

Orrex

(63,203 posts)

15. Here's how those idiot racist fuckheads will respond:

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:23 PM

Nov 2017

" It'll be tough, but I know that Trump is doing the right thing, and I trust him to decide what's best for the country. He has to cut social security because Barry HUSSEN Obummer screwed up the economy so badly. "

This is not speculation. I have had this discussion with local idiots, and they cultishly prostrate themselves before their orange idiot idol even as he works to destroy them.

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Wwcd

(6,288 posts)

17. She told the Nation..Her policy plan and Trump's plan

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:31 PM

Nov 2017

For all who believed the RW & Kremlin lies & never bothered to know her at the time they should have, here it is.
Its a pity, the foolishnes of the gullible sold us all out. Now they have an omg monent?!

She told us all.
Oct 2016

https://hillaryspeeches.com/2016/10/19/hillarys-plan-debt-and-entitlements/

Hillary’s Plan: Debt and Entitlements

Clinton has stood up for Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid her entire career, and she will not stop now.
She will ensure the wealthy, Wall Street, and big corporations pay their fair share, invest in middle-class families, and defend and expand Medicare and Social Security.
Furthermore, her new plans are paid for, so they will not add to the national debt.

Conversely, Trump’s plans will add $21 trillion to the national debt over 20 years and give reckless tax cuts to the wealthy instead of investing in Medicare and Social Security for generations to come.

Hillary has put forward credible plans to pay for her proposals without adding to the national debt.
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Hillary believes seniors have paid into Social Security for a lifetime, and they’ve earned these benefits when they retire. Social Security isn’t just a program—it’s a promise :
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Hillary believes Medicare and Medicaid are the bedrock of health care coverage for more than 50 million Americans, from seniors to people with disabilities.
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Donald Trump may have abused the tax system to avoid paying taxes into Social Security and Medicare – Hillary Clinton would help end this practice.
Based on what we do know about Donald Trump’s tax returns, independent experts at the Tax Policy Center believe that Trump may have avoided paying his fair share in taxes into Social Security and Medicare by abusively taking advantage of the so-called “Gingrich-Edwards” loophole.

This loophole allows some high-income business people to funnel their wages through a business. While the law still requires these business owners to pay payroll taxes on a reasonable portion of compensation, Trump may have flouted this legal requirement and avoided paying his fair share in payroll taxes that support programs like Social Security and Medicare.
Earlier this year, Hillary Clinton embraced a proposal from President Obama’s budget that would end such abuses and crack down on tax gaming by high-income individuals through shifting business income,
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Donald Trump’s tax plan would increase the debt by $21 trillion over 20 years to give tax cuts to the rich, and he has recklessly considered defaulting on the national debt.
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SHE TOLD THIS COUNTRY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN UNDER TRUMP!!

***Paying for Donald Trump’s tax cuts for the rich could require cutting Medicare and Social Security by trillions:***
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SOMEONE TELL ME WHY SHE WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH?

Tell me why some believed the republicans & the Kremlin would be better than HER.

Everytime I hear pissin & moaning from those who chose someone other than the best we had, I want to shove this policy platform in their face.

So fking read it now.
Assholes. Sellouts.

You happy with the Republicans & the Kremlin now???

And fk you Stein, Sarandon, Nina, & the bull shitter mouthpieces that helped destroy this great nation.

SHE TOLD US!

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