Medicare and Social Security are going away, this much is now obvious. The question

[Eliot Rosewater]

really only is which of us die in the streets, which of us dont?

[sarcasmo]

1. Agreed. The rubes who voted for Donnie will never admit fault.

[SamKnause]

2. I won't die in the streets.

I will kill myself before I lose the shack I live in.

I worked like a mule to get everything I have before I became disabled.

I have been scraping by on Social Security Disability.

3 more years and this shack is mine.

I am the first female in my family to own land and a home without the help of a man.

They will have to take me out on a stretcher.

[Iliyah]

3. HUD too.

Many of t-rump supporters are on HUD and SNAP as well. The rate the USA is going under the GOPs, 3rd world country will happen. Before then tho, major depression, and all the silver and gold will not help the greedy.

Ya think people would learn from history.

Will the USA survive, I think we will but have to re-build but the GOPs must go.

[NCTraveler]

4. Not only do I not think they are going away.

I think both programs will be greatly expanded over the next fifty years.

[atreides1]

5. Based on???

How exactly will they expand???

[NCTraveler]

6. I believe over the decades they will both be expanded by age-group.

More people will have access to one or the other during different times of their lives.

It's exactly what we are and have been fighting for. This is a war and it isn't even close to over. For all we know it just started.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. Maybe, and the ONLY way that happens if we all start SCREAMING now

what could and WILL happen if we dont.

Thus why I do what I do.

While I fully expect to be living in a cardboard box soon.

[NCTraveler]

10. The screams seem to go through an ebb and flow.

They have been pretty elevated. I do think your concern is warranted and don't outright dismiss them. I also don't think we are at a starting or ending point. Just a point. This country has been moving in the right direction since it's inception. Almost all of it, when viewed over the long-haul, shows a clear progressive trend. At one point there was no medicare, SS, workers rights, safety regulations, business regulations, etc.. That was under the same government design we have today, it's just now much larger in scope and helping exponentially more people. We have to keep fighting so these things don't get rolled back in the long-run.

[MontanaMama]

7. Fox and the Dotard rubes

will find a way to blame Obama.

[alarimer]

8. I'm seriously considering leaving this country.

Permanently. Someplace warm, stable, with a low cost of living.

[MineralMan]

11. Will that be enough to get the Stein voters to vote for Democrats?

Do you think? Will it be enough to get a record-setting turnout of Democratic voters in 2018?

Those are the questions that need to be asked.

[Eliot Rosewater]

12. Pain wont be obvious by then I dont think. only way that is a win is IF we are harmed enough

think about that one

[davekriss]

13. And, when the day comes, the ReThugs will blame the Democrats

And their rubes will believe it.