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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswhy are they ruining the night by having donna brazile on msnbc ?
She is bragging at how she was down there in virginia to fundraise and motivate the troops. You would think they could have invited somebody else to ask them about the future direction of the party
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)change the channel!
skylucy
(3,743 posts)Coopers gain!
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,043 posts)still_one
(92,395 posts)trump claiming success for something he didn't have anything to do with
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Her Third way ideals rubbed many a Dem raw.
Now we move to the next level of getting it done. As you most likely are aware,the Media took it in the shorts tonight. Best thing that ever happened for our Country.
ABC nightly news did not even mention the Elections. To busy kissing Trumps ass.
elleng
(131,107 posts)issues, problems, mistakes? MAYBE?
PLEASE.
still_one
(92,395 posts)elleng
(131,107 posts)ignore facts and people's experience, THAT's the way to grow the Democratic electorate.
still_one
(92,395 posts)Democratic party is a cancer, and pushes her distortions and lies to cover up her incompetence, as far as I am concerned she is persona non-grata, and the only thing her presence will do is flame bait, not bring the Democrat together.
Sorry Donna Brazille, but you don't get to claim ANY credit for the Democratic victories tonight, and no doubt in my mind that if the Democrats would have lost tonight, Brazille would have been right out there claiming it was because of the "cancer" in the Democratic party
An opportunistic incompetent
elleng
(131,107 posts)and only paid some attention to some interviews since the book thing. Now I find I'm learning some things about the way things work.
still_one
(92,395 posts)Politico excerpts, and based on what Howard Dean and others have said, she jumped to some pretty wrong conclusions.
For me it wasn't as much that as it was her inflammatory descriptions she used, which contained a lot of flawed assessments, and releasing this right before an extremely important election, where if anything Democrats need a moral booster, make me seriously question her judgement.
emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)Putin's false "Rigged primary" meme is dead thanks to the holes and half-truths in Donna's book.
That may not have been her intention but that's what happened.
Today she's backpedalling everywhere. I understand she did a fair amount of that tonight.
I have a lot of empathy for her, this was her chance to reinvent herself for future consulting work.
Hard for a consultant who backed a losing candidate. Last thing I wanna see Donna have to do is take the Tad Devine route: forced to work outside the US propping up Putin puppets with sleazebuckets like Manafort
Making herself more Sanders 2020 friendly or similar was a good idea. Unfortunately she blew it by overreaching and producing a book that cannot survive a fact check.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)She has some serious screws loose and no amount of candles and gospel music will change her fiction to fact.
emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)Her story on "how things work" seems to change hourly
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)She said she campaigned based on the strategy designed by Tom Perez, "win at the delegate level." I was going to put the TV on mute when she came on, I'm glad I didn't
elleng
(131,107 posts)I've learned a few things listening to her.
still_one
(92,395 posts)be blowing.
After he book, she has absolutely no credibility with me, and frankly the only thing she offers the Democratic party is a catalyst of division, and I suspect she will not be welcome by most Democrats
She released excerpts of her book before an extremely critical election, which showed reckless disregard, as a good number of the talking heads were pushing the theme that her "explosive" book would hurt Democrats in today's election
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)still_one
(92,395 posts)after her release of those inflammatory excerpts, and based on what Howard Dean and others have pointed out regarding the rules, those excerpts were flawed to put it generously. This was done right before an extremely important election, where Democrats if anything needed to be united, at the very least demonstrates very poor judgement on her part
As far as I am concerned, the way she manufactured this whole circus surrounding her book, she has no credibility from my perspective
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Looking forward to Rachel and Lawrence, UNLESS they have Brazile on.
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)that didn't materialize are the fault of old school Democrats.
drray23
(7,637 posts)She was supposed to be the "i told you so" undertaker but this did not pan out.
R B Garr
(16,976 posts)So much for the empty non-endorsements. Stronger together!
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Eko
(7,351 posts)She is saying some good things, replied back about what Democrats are going to do to bring up wages then responds that we are for raising the minimum wage and keep proposing it. I think she said some things that are wrong but has a long history of helping the party. Not forgiving her for what she said but realizing that Dems have different opinions even ones that I don't agree with and maybe I shouldn't be the enemy of perfect with Trump and the GOP trying to destroy everything.
still_one
(92,395 posts)Ive seen worse here, I mean you have people calling us Neo-libs pretty much every day, should I shun them?
still_one
(92,395 posts)which we don't always see eye to eye on. That is a good thing, because we have an opportunity to learn from each other. Disagreements are all part of it. Personal attacks, as I know you agree have no business in those conversations.
This is a forum, or a group of people having a conversation among each other.
Donna Brazille is a public figure who has written a book, using excerpts from that book, which make accusations against the Democratic party, that are false. Most people have made mis-statements at sometime or another, but usually acknowledge that. When Ms. Brazille indicates that she never said the DNC rigged the election, but instead said there is a cancer within the DNC, it is difficult for me to give much credibility to her account of things.
emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)drray23
(7,637 posts)she loves the party, proud of it, etc.. I have never seen such an hypocrit in my life before.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)As soon as Chris Hayes announced it
standingtall
(2,787 posts)Tried to check back and 12 minutes later she is still blabbing too long. They couldn't have picked worse time to have her on.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)In any case, I tuned to CNN to see the results of my state's elections (NJ).
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Chris did not try to get her to sling mud, thankfully.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)me.
still_one
(92,395 posts)have a cancer within them.
Ain't that peachy?
Reminds me of the story one person comes up to another person and says, "I defended you" "They said you weren't fit to sleep with the pigs, and I said you were"
Thanks but no thanks Donna. She is not giving constructive criticism, but making accusations which are not only misleading, but flat out wrong
R B Garr
(16,976 posts)Her story sounds very suspect now, even after her backtracking. It's too scattered. You have to strain to reconcile what she is saying and it just doesn't work.
I also didn't agree with what she said about some voters not hearing Democrats' message. I would say they heard too much maligning of our candidate -- our candidate had a great message. NEVER AGAIN.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)The last thing we need is continual trashing of our party during a time of such critical elections.
Well, I think Democrats need to do a better job of outreach in rural and suburban communities. OFA went into those areas. Without the OFA infrastructure, we're lost. We need to get back out there, starting with the down ballot races and ending in the governorships. That's one way we can start ensuring election integrity at the state-level.
R B Garr
(16,976 posts)a kennedy
(29,706 posts)FYI. She's dead to me.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Its a damn shame we have no idea what shell say or do tomorrow, isnt it?
Throw the Bernie activist wing under the bus like shes been doing for years? Sell out the more mainstream Clinton wing? Call everyone a cancer?
Maybe just take a shit on the grave of Harry S Truman and hawk tickets as performance art?