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Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 12:13 AM Nov 2017

Democrats eating their own again

Democracy for America has pulled its direct support for the VA Democratic candidate because he said something about not supporting sanctuary cities, (I read something that they misunderstood him).

But these sanctimonious asses decide they are so moral they would rather give the election to a horrible Rethug than give support to someone who will actually care about the welfare of the people of VA

I am fed up with Democrats hating on each other!! Sometimes you don't have a perfect candidate. Consider the alternative for fuck's sake


http://democracyforamerica.com/site/page/dfa-announces-end-of-direct-aid-for-northam-in-va-gubernatorial-race-after

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
3. Democrats are making it real easy for redumbliCONs to win elections.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 12:21 AM
Nov 2017

DFA better understand that you can't ALWAYS get what you want. Sometimes you must compromise.

brush

(53,759 posts)
4. Sounds like a "Rolling Stones" lyric.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 12:27 AM
Nov 2017

"...You can't always get what you want

But if you try sometime you find

You get what you need."

What we need is someone with a brain in Democrats for America. How stupid can you be to pull this crappola within a week of the election.

Some heads definitely need to roll in that group.

Initech

(100,055 posts)
5. Yup, and that's the point.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 12:29 AM
Nov 2017

The republicans are playing us for chumps. And we can't keep falling into their trap. We just can't.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
6. Democrats are making it real easy for redumbliCONs to win elections.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:31 AM
Nov 2017

To be honest, thuglicans don't need much help.

Not when you can voter-suppress, gerrymander and have ruskie meddling (However they helped tRumputin/the GOP out) to help you win elections by not only stealing then altering emails from the DNC, but have ruskie bots via FB and Twitter help to sully and lie on the Dem nominee (Hillary), not when you had and still have ruskie bots continue to sew the seeds of discord/mistrust within the Democratic party with constant rehashing of the Bernie vs Hillary primary, and where you have bots pushing the notion that Hillary "cheated" Bernie out of his rightful place as the party's nominee. Not when you have the help of a complicit media who loved the ratings tRumputin bought to their networks so much, that they give him billions in free air time, while at the same time they didn't do much fact-checking on the LIES he spewed, and not when you had folks like MSNBC's Mrs. Greenspan saying constantly that "Hillary's emails, BAD," "tRumputin's lies, interesting." And since they're not being stopped, who knows what the ruskies will come up with in 2018/2020 to keep Dems from voting or how they'll get "rid" of or see to it that Dem votes "go missing."

Even if we as Dems somehow came together in a united front and voted in overwhelming numbers for fellow Dem candidates, how do we know that our votes will count or even be counted? thuglicans control everything from collecting to tallying of the votes. Do you trust them to collect/count our votes fairlr? It's bad enough that our votes may not count or be counted in the upcoming elections, but the voting machines/apparatus in many states here in this country are a MESS. I have almost NO faith in our upcoming elections because little to nothing has changed for the better (Like it would under tRumputin) since 11/8/2816. Dems could have had a fresh faced, intelligent Barack Obama/Joe Biden running like they did in 2008, and they still wouldn't have won the 2016 GE. Not when you had all of what happened in the 2016 GE happen.

Crosscheck Removed 450K Voters in MI, 270 K in AZ and 590 K in NC.

This is the start of of Greg Palast’s story.

The original is at www.gregpalast.com/… This is very, very likely why, in state after state, Hillary was up 150K votes before election day and lost: Her voters could not show up. They were already eliminated from the voter rolls. If proven true, this sounds like a classic Justice Department issue and needs to be resolved in real time. We must not repeat the mistakes of Florida 2000. (BTW, first post, three lines, was posted by Gbriel777 at this DKos link.)

“Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.

“Starting in 2013 – just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act – a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOP–controlled states.

The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,


“The GOP’s Stealth War on Voters,” 8/24/2016.

Crosscheck in action:

Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107 Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922

Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257 Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824

Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008 North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393


“On Tuesday, we saw Crosscheck elect a Republican Senate and as President, Donald Trump. The electoral putsch was aided by nine other methods of attacking the right to vote of Black, Latino and Asian-American voters, methods detailed in my book and film, including “Caging,” “purging,” blocking legitimate registrations, and wrongly shunting millions to “provisional” ballots that will never be counted.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/14/1599330/-Crosscheck-Removed-450K-Voters-in-MI-270-K-in-AZ-and-590-K-in-NC

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. This isn't a Democratic Party group, though, Maraya,
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:38 AM
Nov 2017

and although some must be registered as Democrats I bet a bunch of members would be offended at being characterized that way. Dean is a reasonable man, but he can't control all the people who flocked to his banner. The DFA firmly backed Sanders in 2016, and just look at all the Sanders diehards who despise the party. You can bet there are a bunch in the DFA.

And that's why they're not "eating their own." They're trying to eat Democrats. As usual.

Those farther left in any nation always attack the mainstream left group, and they always will because this is driven by personality thing, not issues. Zealots believe so fervently in themselves that they are unwilling to cooperate with liberals and other more moderate types to achieve compromise on common goals. And they justify this defeatist behavior by villifying Democrats. Every election we have to fight left and right to win.

Btw, it's no accident that the right and most corporate-directed media insist on labeling hostiles from farther left as Democrats and liberals, against the wishes of both. False labeling is the most powerful attack weapon they have.

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