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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:27 PM Nov 2017

Primary Error: Donna Brazile Mixed Up Two Different Clinton-DNC Agreements

Donna Brazile got it wrong period end of story...It is a pernicious conspiracy theory that the 16 primary was stolen. It was not.


"Donna Brazile reopened 2016 Democratic primary wounds yesterday by publishing a portion of her new book, Hacks: The Inside Story Of The Break Ins And Breakdowns at POLITICO. Although the usual suspects leaped on her claims that Hillary Clinton “control[ed] the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in a 2015 document, by the evening it became clear that Brazile had misrepresented the reality.

There is absolutely nothing in the Clinton campaign’s 2015 Joint Fundraising Agreement that gave her any such “control” — not even in the draft version of that document hacked by Russian intelligence and published by WikiLeaks.

Whereas Brazile claimed that Clinton wanted to “wield control of [DNC] operations” in 2015, she never assumed any such powers until June of 2016, when the primary race was over and she was the official nominee. As Brazile acknowledges, it is absolutely normal for the nominee to take control of the party apparatus at that point."

https://deepstatenation.com/primary-error-donna-brazile-mixed-up-two-different-clinton-dnc-agreements/

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Primary Error: Donna Brazile Mixed Up Two Different Clinton-DNC Agreements (Original Post) Demsrule86 Nov 2017 OP
Worse than that. She just plain old lied. boston bean Nov 2017 #1
It sure looks that way...hard to believe she could make a mistake like that given her past Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #6
She just needed a salacious 'hook' to get everybody instantly talking Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #22
Absolutely. We must fight this sue her and the publisher...look how the constant demonization of Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #26
Right. This was not an off-the-cuff statement. yardwork Nov 2017 #30
I think more people were involved than just Brazile delisen Nov 2017 #2
Publisher wanted to cash in quick, I guess. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #5
In their defense, Brazile has an extensive career. I doubt they understood the nature of the Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #10
Such a reasonable approach would be a positive delisen Nov 2017 #28
The Party and Sec. Clinton need to sue Brazile and the publisher. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #7
That is a good point...hit job by Brazile and the Repugs? Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #11
I do too and it stinks to heaven. She is far far too experienced for this to have been a mistake. GeneMcM Nov 2017 #15
She describes a phone call where she told Sanders of her findings but he sounded lowkey. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #21
she went for the gold to get revenge. not working out so well, apparently nt msongs Nov 2017 #3
Revenge against Hillary...what did Hillary do to her? Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #8
Quite the Contrary. Like so many others, her career and millions can be thanked to the Clintons enga GeneMcM Nov 2017 #27
Revenge for what? yardwork Nov 2017 #32
Publisher needs to pull the book and sue Donna for defrauding them emulatorloo Nov 2017 #4
Absolutely...she is a liar...soon to be a proven liar. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #9
But will people accept something as insignificant as proof? These days it seems like once a lie StevieM Nov 2017 #13
It isn't true and she should not profit off of pedaling untruths. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #14
I saw your posts...you bent over backwards to be fair...as always. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #19
Some will never believe that 16 was fair because they don't want to... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #16
They live in a bubble, truth doesn't penetrate it. You can see it at Reddit emulatorloo Nov 2017 #18
I go on Reddit too...but usually just lurk...they are vicious...and I take it personally when my Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #24
Whooops Ok great....all is forgiven and we can all now move on. GREAT. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #12
I hope so... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #17
Doesn't she describe a phone call where she told Sanders of her findings but he sounded lowkey? Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #20
Bernie probably understood she was mixing up two different agreements emulatorloo Nov 2017 #23
Sen. Sanders is smart...he knew the truth...probably used to ass kissers...who want something from Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #25
It is interesting that she did not get the reaction from him she thought was certain w/her findings Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #29
Brazile sounds mentally unstable. yardwork Nov 2017 #31
Am not so sure of that. Seems passionate to me. I like her but disappointed w/her & this mess she Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #33
She sounds overwrought, overly emotional. yardwork Nov 2017 #34
We disagree on this point. She reached a mistaken conclusion that made her feel that way. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #35
K&R. More people need to see this. (eom) StevieM Nov 2017 #36

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
22. She just needed a salacious 'hook' to get everybody instantly talking
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:26 PM
Nov 2017

but we see now that she crossed the line...

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
26. Absolutely. We must fight this sue her and the publisher...look how the constant demonization of
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:00 PM
Nov 2017

Hillary Clinton has worked...the same could happen to the Democratic party.

yardwork

(61,408 posts)
30. Right. This was not an off-the-cuff statement.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:23 AM
Nov 2017

She published in her book that it "broke her heart" when she discovered.... something that she never could have discovered because it wasn't there.

Brazile and her publisher made up an entire narrative that is completely false. Then Brazile hit the talk circuit to promote the falsehood.

This was deliberate.

delisen

(6,039 posts)
2. I think more people were involved than just Brazile
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:40 PM
Nov 2017

she , and the publisher, never fact checked before publishing?

Nobody checked with Sanders, Amy, Robbie, or Hillary?

Something is not right with this picture.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
10. In their defense, Brazile has an extensive career. I doubt they understood the nature of the
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:06 PM
Nov 2017

agreements. That being said they need to step up and fix this.

delisen

(6,039 posts)
28. Such a reasonable approach would be a positive
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:34 AM
Nov 2017

Brazile has had an extensive career and Would like to see her move quickly to make things right.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
21. She describes a phone call where she told Sanders of her findings but he sounded lowkey.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:25 PM
Nov 2017

Which she took as him being magnanimous.


She called Bernie Sanders to tell him about all this, but first “I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music. I wanted to center myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.” (In fact, it turned out not to be an emotional call. Apparently Bernie didn’t care much.)



http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/donna-brazile-and-the-latest-great-hillary-scandal/

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
8. Revenge against Hillary...what did Hillary do to her?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:04 PM
Nov 2017

Brazile made her own mistakes. It makes me angry that even Democrats use Hillary Clinton as a whipping 'girl'.

 

GeneMcM

(69 posts)
27. Quite the Contrary. Like so many others, her career and millions can be thanked to the Clintons enga
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:26 PM
Nov 2017

engaging her in the first place.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
13. But will people accept something as insignificant as proof? These days it seems like once a lie
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:08 PM
Nov 2017

is believed nobody cares about the subsequent correction to the record.

That, of course, is how the GOP sold the fake email scandal.

emulatorloo

(43,979 posts)
14. It isn't true and she should not profit off of pedaling untruths.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:10 PM
Nov 2017

As to her consultancy career she's proven herself untrustworthy.

I was quite empathetic yesterday and giving her the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
16. Some will never believe that 16 was fair because they don't want to...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:14 PM
Nov 2017

There will never be enough proof for this sort.

emulatorloo

(43,979 posts)
18. They live in a bubble, truth doesn't penetrate it. You can see it at Reddit
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:15 PM
Nov 2017

They still believe in Pizzagate and so on.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
24. I go on Reddit too...but usually just lurk...they are vicious...and I take it personally when my
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:34 PM
Nov 2017

posts are voted down!

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
17. I hope so...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:15 PM
Nov 2017

But this shows how desperate some are to blame Democrats and the Party...very unsettling.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
20. Doesn't she describe a phone call where she told Sanders of her findings but he sounded lowkey?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:19 PM
Nov 2017

Which she took as him being magnanimous.


She called Bernie Sanders to tell him about all this, but first “I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music. I wanted to center myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.” (In fact, it turned out not to be an emotional call. Apparently Bernie didn’t care much.)



http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/donna-brazile-and-the-latest-great-hillary-scandal/

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
33. Am not so sure of that. Seems passionate to me. I like her but disappointed w/her & this mess she
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:30 AM
Nov 2017

caused.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
35. We disagree on this point. She reached a mistaken conclusion that made her feel that way.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:36 AM
Nov 2017

The whole of last year was dramatic. I am not trying to defend her here all the way, I just see her somewhat differently than you.

But still she caused damage to us with this self-enforced error.

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