Think about what it says that the Papadopoulos info was kept SECRET for this long!

[Eliot Rosewater]

Think about what went down, him pleading guilty AND agreeing to work for Mueller.

And NOBODY knew until now?

What ELSE does nobody know?

OH god, If I was a trump team member, I would be buying a big boat to leave the country in right about now.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. The point has been made by newshawks who were taken by surprise...

No one saw that coming and they are afraid to guess what's next.

[fleur-de-lisa]

2. Yep. He was arrested at an airport!

You would think someone would have taken notice.

[brush]

4. Who would know who he was? And the Feds weren't telling. Mueller is to be commended for...

keeping this all under wraps with no leaks.

This is how it's done, unlike the sieve that is the White House.

[metalbot]

43. That's actually a really discrete place to get arrested

You walk through immigration.

Sir, please come with me.

Small room.

You're under arrest.

Easy to take you anywhere without the public watching.

[fleur-de-lisa]

50. I work in aviation.

The general public wouldn't know he was arrested, but airport empoloyees certainly would. And they are the biggest gossips. Anytime anything happens in an airport, it gets spread around pretty quickly.

[Pachamama]

51. While I agree that its likely airport employees would know all, perhaps the arrest was done in....

...such a subtle way and without incident (even in a car parked at Dulles Airport) under the guise of transportation taking him home or to work and getting the bad news for George Papadopoulos that way. No eyes, nothing unusual to anyone standing around, even if they were an employee standing by the curb at the entrance of Dulles Airport.

Nothing unusual about Government and White House Administration employees getting into Black SUV's at Dulles Airport.

Its who is sitting and waiting inside that dark shaded windows in that car that matters. And all it would have taken is someone from FBI walking up (not necessarily wearing a big jacket with FBI, but just a dark coat) and saying "Mr. Papadopoulos, Joe Smith of the FBI - please come with me to the vehicle here".

Poor George - he knew already in July for about 6 plus months that he had been lying to the FBI and he was living on borrowed time....and my guess he was tired of lying and scared. He also was likely warned about making a scene. And if he was smart, had already consulted a lawyer before.

Just my thoughts on what went down and how it was not noticed by airport employees and thus kept very quiet as Mueller and his team executed this....

[lagomorph777]

56. Yeah, probably looked like any average drug smuggler arrest,

and they would have quietly whisked him into a room and out of sight.

Highly unlikely any airport employee would have recognized the guy's face or name. Would you?

[ProudLib72]

3. I don't understand why no DUers thought of it first

We have so many conspiratorially minded folks, this sort of thing does not require a large stretch of the imagination.

Maybe someone did mention the possibility and it didn't gain any traction.

[Eliot Rosewater]

8. Who heard of this guy until now, surely not me.

[ProudLib72]

11. No, I just mean the possibility of a mole

Not specifically Papadopoulos. We guessed that Flynn or Manyfart might flip and rat out Dotard, but we never imagined someone would have actually gone to the FBI and volunteered to wear a wire.

[RandomAccess]

31. I don't think he "volunteered" for anything

And certainly didn't go to the FBI on his own steam.

Unless I've missed something -- ???

I don't even think it's been determined (for sure) that he wore a wire -- ??? Even tho it's been widely, and authoritatively I might add, speculated by knowledgeable commentators.

[ProudLib72]

41. Coerced?

"Volunteered" because he didn't want to go to prison forever. Whatever the case may be, no one on DU (that I recall) ever mentioned the possibility of a mole.

[RandomAccess]

45. Yeah, okay, I see your point

He "agreed" to wear a wire works for me.

Except, has that been shown for sure, or is just likely? Not that important I guess.

[ProudLib72]

47. Yeah, the wearing of a wire thing is confusing

I remember that a lot of DUers talked about people flipping, but I do not recall anyone actually thinking that someone still inside the administration (not just an aide) had already flipped. Maybe it did come up and I missed it.

[Eliot Rosewater]

63. I hear he was arrested in an airport, Papadopolous or however it is spelled

[4139]

37. You probably had heard of him back in August....

Trump campaign emails show aide’s repeated efforts to set up Russia meetings

By Tom Hamburger, Carol D. Leonnig, Rosalind S. Helderman
August 14, 2017 at 5:36 PM

Three days after Donald Trump named his campaign foreign policy team in March 2016, the youngest of the new advisers sent an email to seven campaign officials with the subject line: "Meeting with Russian Leadership - Including Putin."

The adviser, George Papadopoulos, offered to set up "a meeting between us and the Russian leadership to discuss US-Russia ties under President Trump," telling them his Russian contacts welcomed the opportunity, according to internal campaign emails read to The Washington Post....



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-campaign-emails-show-aides-repeated-efforts-to-set-up-russia-meetings/2017/08/14/54d08da6-7dc2-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html

[More_Cowbell]

38. This is when I think the WH might have found out he'd been arrested

Maybe he even told them himself. Anyway, this story could have been leaked by the WH in an attempt to distance itself from him, or to make his efforts look amateurish and unsuccessful.

[4139]

40. Yep, but there is hope George was wearing a wire and asked if trump would

Pay his legal bills!?

Hope but not likely anyone would talk to George

[bdamomma]

52. not me either

I didn't know about him, but he was an "excellent guy" huh?

[unc70]

12. We thought of the possibility, just not the specific person

The idea of turning one or more of those involved has been discussed multiple times. Few of us would have focused on George P.

[Nevernose]

46. Louise Mensch did tell the world

That members of the Trump team were wearing phones working as “hot mics.” She was completely wrong about WHO or WHEN, but the thought that various members of the Trump Admin have been wired up in various ways have been public for quite a while.

I’m not defending Louise Mensch, for the record. I think she’s definitely abusing drugs and/or mentally ill. It’s kind of clear and kind of sad, really.

We also forget that the campaign chairman was under a “spy” surveillance warrant both while he was the campaign chairman and while he was advising the Vice President Elect daily during the whole transition. That’s just as incredible as Papadopoulos wearing a wire, IMO.

[ProudLib72]

48. I guess what I'm responding to is the enormity of the discovery

We sat around for months hoping there would be a bombshell. This is the biggest bombshell we could have hoped for (if he was wearing a wire and feeding the FBI info all along). In other words, we hoped to catch a small break and got a monster break.

[lagomorph777]

57. Yup definitely!

[hamsterjill]

5. It goes to the professionalism of Mueller and his team.

It was an amazing feat considering all of the attention on this subject. But, to me, it signifies that Mueller is dead serious about his investigation. He's not interested in publicity or public opinion. He's just doing the job he was hired to do.

And that's what I, for one, want him to do. Bravo!

[marylandblue]

13. some of us on DU and some Dem Congresspeople

said that Mueller knew much more than has been publically revealed.

[CatWoman]

6. i think if i were male

the news would have given me an erection.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. DO SOMETHING

hopefully the traitor in the WH can no longer have erections, what with all the treason and worrying he does

[RandomAccess]

32. Oh dear

::BLUSH::



I have to say, I do understand the sentiment.

[malaise]

7. It's why ReTHUGs have found themselves in a stunned state

of incredulity. They know that they don't know what M ueller knows. It's delish.

[workinclasszero]

10. Its funny because the Dumpster fire administration leaks like a sieve

And has been like that from day one to date, while Mueller plays the assholes like a well worn fiddle.

Man I wonder how much evidence he has gathered on Dump and his criminal administration already??

Seemingly all he has to do is question the principal players under oath and match it with the reams of recorded treasonous republican plots against the USA caught via wire on already turned underlings.

I bet King Dumpf is having nightmares about Robert Mueller!!!

[mucifer]

53. It's about respect and patriotism.

[Corvo Bianco]

14. As long as we're in a thread about secrets we don't know

There's fantasy roosting in my dirty heart in which Jr. turns on daddy

[Eliot Rosewater]

16. One thing is certain, if necessary the old man WILL throw his kids under the bus

so quickly and easily as if they were bags of air.

[workinclasszero]

22. No doubt about that

I'm sure.

[2naSalit]

30. The sons, sure...

that female offspring though... he'll protect her until there's nobody left, then he'l throw her under the bus.

[Orrex]

62. Why not? We already know that Ivanka turns on daddy.

He's talked about it on Howard Stern and elsewhere, alas!

[jodymarie aimee]

15. When you aim for the King,

You don't miss. Mueller will not miss...... and I wish him Godspeed.

[elfin]

17. Hard to understand that he was able to continue his "job" and not give it away

He is quite young and has had practically no paying jobs since college. Unpaid internships, volunteer to the campaign, one assumed paid contract research job with Hudson Institute, lives with relatives according to wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Papadopoulos

He must have been really really scared. Mueller's group got to him - bigly.

His office behavior must have changed after his arrest. If the White House staff didn't notice, they are even more stupid than I thought.

[cstanleytech]

18. Actually I would not be surprised if he tipped Trumps people off in advance that he

was working with Mueller as the timing for the Repugnants running multiple stories about the old uranium deal involving the Russians and the dossier in an obvious attempt to use Hillary as a smokescreen again was just to much of coincidence.

[Eliot Rosewater]

19. The education we are all about to get, by the way.

When we hear them in their OWN WORDS commit treason, the 50 million or so Americans who will still defend them.

Eye opener that will be.

[brush]

58. the uranium stories on FOX only happened in the last 2 weeks or so. He's been cooperating with...

Mueller's team for months. He didn't tell in fear of getting an even harsher sentence.

Remember, he plead guilty in hopes of getting a lighter sentence.

[lame54]

20. The lack of leaks is impressive...

Any leaks from Mueller team are probably deliberate

[Cryptoad]

23. + gazillion!

[George II]

25. I'm sure of that. The "leak" on Friday about the indictments yesterday was NOT a leak.

[lame54]

26. That was just reporting

[RandomAccess]

34. totally agree

and wish I'd paid better attention as they happened.

The lack of leaks on this story is AMAZING, and speaks to the uber-professionalism of the Mueller team.

But there have been leaks that have taken place that were quite purposeful. I'll be watching for more.

[Cryptoad]

21. How long has it been since ,,,,

a sitting AG was indicted ?????????
Sessions will look good dress out
in a Day-Glow Orange jumpsuit
in one of his own private Jails

[lame54]

27. It will be over-sized...

Hard to pick up trash with long sleeves flopping around

[Cryptoad]

28. luv it

[CincyDem]

35. I think it was Mitchell in the 70s ???

[Cryptoad]

36. Did he resign before or after the indictment?

My old mind can't remember,,,,,,,

[CincyDem]

44. Good call - resigned before.

Ended his AG term in 72. Found guilty in 75. Richard Kliendienst replaced him.

[George II]

24. He didn't plead guilty to a lesser charge until they knew he could "perform". Remember...

...Mueller and the FBI have copies of all of those emails, and they have headers with email addresses and names.

THEY know who the higher-up and others with whom Papadopoulis exchanged emails.

[kentuck]

29. How did he keep from telling the CIA?

Then Trump would have known.

[ancianita]

33. Mueller's FBI is air tight, out of sight. The FBI intensifies the definition of the word "sealed."

[brush]

60. Yep. Mueller most likely sealed off those rogue NY agents who intimidated weak Comey into...

writing that Oct. 28 letter about additional Clinton emails before even investigating to see if there were any such new emails.

trumps worst move was, as Bannon said, was firing Comey.

Mueller's not afraid of the Giuliani-linked gang of rogues in the NY FBI office.

[displacedtexan]

39. Probable cause for a 3 hop wire tap?

George P.'s communications have all been tapped for months. Anyone George P. talked to could have all of their communications tapped, and if they talked to anyone else considered to be of interest, that person could have all of their communications tapped as well. And so on and so forth.

[PatrickforO]

42. Hell yes! Big boat, man! Let's all crowdfund a giant ark that we can load

Trump, his campaign staff and his administration appointees into and just push it away from shore.

Problem is, I don't think anyone would want them.

[Dawson Leery]

49. Honestly, I am entertained watching

the GOP beat themselves into the ground like a bunch of rabid apes over this revelation.

[PJMcK]

55. Keep watching!

I know I will. There's going to be more and more and it's going to be ugly but wild.

I love what this is doing to Trump.

[kydo]

54. I truly hope he is in some type of witness protection program right now

The russian mafia kills snitches and those that speak out against them. Just look at the trail of dead bodies putin leaves. orange man is just a low level thug. putin doesn't give two shits about 2 scoops. putin will never end up in a US prison. But orange most likely will be.

What orange dotard never realized about putin is that he never cared about orange man. All he wanted was to cause chaos and division here. Like the "Cal-exit" crap. That only helps russia. The fact that orange man is an idiot is even better for putin. Now our standing in the world is totally gone. Who stands to benefit from that? Many countries will be very willing to fill the void.

Right now with a weak fake leader our country is in-fighting. Hopefully soon steps will begin that remove us from this parasite. But when that happens we basically won't exists internationally.

If it wasn't for the fact that millions of people are and will suffer because of orange dotard totally getting played by the russian, (yeah, used like a tool), it would be great to watch it (the orangery) realize he was the fool. Hopefully it will cross his mind when he is doing the frog walk to his new and forever home, while the world watches and LOL at him. putin will be in one of his mansions getting a good laugh.

[brush]

61. Putin also wanted/wants the sanctions lifted on that trillion dollar oil deal, also the holds on...

bank accounts.

[kydo]

65. Oddly that is icing on the cake. The goal was to cause chaos and try to influence the election

Anything after that with THIS venture was icing on the cake.

He will always want those things you listed. And I am sure he has many irons in the fire to seek an end to those goals. Their involvement in our elections was first to cause chaos, and divide. It worked. Second goal was to get his guy in. And that worked. Now he is just trying to see what else he can knock off on his list of things to do while he has a fool doing his bidding.

When orange man is dressed in his orange suit and sitting in jail, putin will still be in charge in Russia and he will be trying to work with who ever is in charge to do the things you stated.

[brush]

66. Putin had goals sure enough. IMO the oil trillions that backing trump in order to lift the...

sanctions, plus having the US president in his pocket, were top goals.

[Eliot Rosewater]

64. Most certainly. The ONLY reason Lawrence and Rachel and so on are still

healthy is putin thinks harming them would work against him AT THIS TIME but that can change.

The GOP loves putin because he is a racist who kills anyone he doesnt like or tries to expose him.

[Alwaysna]

59. Orange jumpsuit stock

I wish I had bought stock in a company that makes orange jumpsuits!