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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:36 PM Oct 2017

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Did she ask for a kick back? DURHAM D Oct 2017 #1
Wow! dhol82 Oct 2017 #3
I have only had one person ask for a kickback...in Detroit angstlessk Oct 2017 #4
There's an old saying.... Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #2
I'd have a problem with it, too. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #5
Yes. She has the freedom to practice her religion onenote Oct 2017 #6
There's that 'separation of church and state' thingy. left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #7
She's helping you. Doing nothing to harm you. Why make trouble for her? WillowTree Oct 2017 #8
"Why make trouble for her?" left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #13
So Muslim women who wear a scarf aren't allowed? Igel Oct 2017 #9
Sometimes it's best to just ignore it and not make a big deal. She sounds harmless. Vinca Oct 2017 #10
"Have a nice day".... "Have a blessed day"..."good luck" oasis Oct 2017 #11
Tell this story to your local ACLU. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #12
It's interesting to me ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #19
I understand your reaction. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #21
My thoughts: Don't piss off people who are helping you... Hekate Oct 2017 #14
Some folks doing the Lord's work actually are dembotoz Oct 2017 #15
I have zero intent to do or say anything. Just asked for opinions. left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #16
So, it looks as if the prevailing "opinion" is to get over it. WillowTree Oct 2017 #22
Nothing to 'get over' left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #24
Does she penalize you for your views? blogslut Oct 2017 #17
Not battling. Asking for opinions. n/t left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #18
Here's my opinion, since you asked FakeNoose Oct 2017 #20
How would you feel edhopper Oct 2017 #23

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
1. Did she ask for a kick back?
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:40 PM
Oct 2017

I got someone (actually it was two people in the same office) fired from that job because I reported to HUD that they demanded kickbacks from recipients. Both always said "Have A Blessed Day"

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
3. Wow!
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:47 PM
Oct 2017

That is quite the story!
May they burn in hell!

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
4. I have only had one person ask for a kickback...in Detroit
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:47 PM
Oct 2017

I 'think' I had a guy asking me to steal from a fuel dealer once...but I just ignored it..beyond that, I thanked the woman who helped me, and she said I could show my appreciation in an envelope!!!

I admit she helped me first without any statement it would cost...so not really corruption...but I better not ask again.

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
2. There's an old saying....
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:41 PM
Oct 2017

Live and let live.

It sounds like she's helpful to you, and she wishes you well in her way. It doesn't sound like she's doing you any harm so why over think it? She probably chose that line of work BECAUSE of who she is.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
5. I'd have a problem with it, too.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:51 PM
Oct 2017

Does not seem appropriate to me. She's working a government job. Whether or not you want to do something about it is the question. You could send an anonymous letter to her supervisor. If she finds out who it is, she may try to make life difficult for you. Christians can be quite vengeful.

onenote

(42,767 posts)
6. Yes. She has the freedom to practice her religion
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:51 PM
Oct 2017

You have the freedom not to practice her religion.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. There's that 'separation of church and state' thingy.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:02 PM
Oct 2017

It's a federal government office.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
8. She's helping you. Doing nothing to harm you. Why make trouble for her?
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:07 PM
Oct 2017

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. "Why make trouble for her?"
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:37 PM
Oct 2017

Don't plan to.
I asked for opinions.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
9. So Muslim women who wear a scarf aren't allowed?
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:26 PM
Oct 2017

What about a Wiccan symbol? Had a friend at UCLA who routinely wore one--most had no clue that it had any sort of religious symbolism for her.

As for separation of church and state, I don't see Congress placing these things on her desk. At some point seeking secular purity makes it impossible for anybody but the ritually pure to participate.


Now, if this woman made it a big point to try to convince people, then it'd be like football players protesting on the job. Otherwise, it's just part of cultural America. One person will have a cat picture, one a religious icon of some sort, somebody else'll be wearing something that has ethnic-identity implications.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
10. Sometimes it's best to just ignore it and not make a big deal. She sounds harmless.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:28 PM
Oct 2017

oasis

(49,409 posts)
11. "Have a nice day".... "Have a blessed day"..."good luck"
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:30 PM
Oct 2017

I never give it a second thought.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. Tell this story to your local ACLU.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:36 PM
Oct 2017

It sounds like a clear violation to me, a retired Federal employee and union representative. I would not go to the Agency for fear of encountering problems and issues with your benefits.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
19. It's interesting to me ...
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 08:11 PM
Oct 2017

I asked for opinions (not planning to do anything) and got attacked by a number of people for being intolerant.

Yet I would think a federal office plastered in religious posters would 'smell' of Vice President Pence.

Oh well ...

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
21. I understand your reaction.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 08:32 PM
Oct 2017

I am a theist, and a Christian. But I also understand what is generally allowable. That is also why I would suggest approaching the ACLU first, to avoid what might happen if you were to file a formal complaint.

Good luck no matter your choice.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
14. My thoughts: Don't piss off people who are helping you...
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:38 PM
Oct 2017

Unless she makes her assistance conditional in some fashion, such as requiring you to pray with her before she performs her job, or requiring a bribe for same, as far as I can tell she is doing no harm and breaking no statutes.

Personally, my impulse is to respond to those who wish me to "Have a blessed day," is to say "Blessed be!" with a smile. No need to tell them it's a Wiccan greeting.

dembotoz

(16,835 posts)
15. Some folks doing the Lord's work actually are
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:41 PM
Oct 2017

She has a job where she tries to help people.
Sounds like she is trying to help, not hurt.
We got much bigger fish to fry

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. I have zero intent to do or say anything. Just asked for opinions.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:42 PM
Oct 2017

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
22. So, it looks as if the prevailing "opinion" is to get over it.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 10:31 PM
Oct 2017

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
24. Nothing to 'get over'
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 10:43 PM
Oct 2017

Just asking for opinions

blogslut

(38,017 posts)
17. Does she penalize you for your views?
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:51 PM
Oct 2017

If not then maybe pick another battle.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
18. Not battling. Asking for opinions. n/t
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 08:04 PM
Oct 2017

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
20. Here's my opinion, since you asked
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 08:26 PM
Oct 2017

This woman's boss should have told her to knock it off with the Christian stuff when she first started working there. The woman is a civil servant and probably a member of a union. Since her boss apparently didn't tell her to stop, now she's got an established routine that's considered OK by her peers. Maybe her boss even agrees with her on the Christian stuff.

I'm assuming this woman isn't preaching or trying to convert you, and she hasn't said anything illegal or immoral. So in that case her Christian stuff is just talk and you can safely ignore it. If you complain about it to her boss it might cause more trouble than you're interested in. But that's just my opinion.

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
23. How would you feel
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 10:38 PM
Oct 2017

if here walls were covered with Star Trek posters and she said "Live long and prosper"?

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